Is the Cowboys coaching worse/better than the elite NFL teams?

[newlander]

Seems to me Pitt/Philly/Tenn/NYgspots/Arizona/Baltimore, etc.....aren't deeper in talent but have one thing going for them that our team doesn't: COACHING. Look at the coaches and staffs in those cities and then look at wade and co. Man, that's the difference to me: you get the most out of 2nd/3rd stringers by coaching them up. We don't have that capability right now. That's why the media is dissing our team. We have solid first teamers. But when they start to get dinged: and they will, what will happen then?

 

[sureletsrace]

Cool story, bro.

 

[LeonDixson]

If the purpose of your post is to merely rag on the coaches, you should reflect that in the title. Don't mislead by giving the impression you are going to compare players. I'm not arguing your point one way or the other, just saying the title is misleading.

 

[Jon88]

We have a good staff and I like our depth. I'm tired of the penalties though.

 

[Biggems]

We have good depth at

QB
RB
WR
TE
DL
ST

Because of injuries our LB depth has become suspect.

Aside from C, I feel we have adequate OL depth....I like Free, McQuistan, Holland, and Gibbons. I cannot stand Procter and want him gone ASAP.

We don't really use the FB position like we used to. We will only have one on the team most likely. Right now our starter is hurt. I wish we would just cut Anderson and either keep Crosslin or add a 4th TE in Chandler.

I think if we can stay healthy, our CB depth is good with Newman, Jenkins, Scandrick, Ball, and even Mickens.....

I do not like our S depth at all. I am not sold on any of our safeties. IMO, it is the weakest unit of our team.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Seems to me Pitt/Philly/Tenn/NYgspots/Arizona/Baltimore, etc.....aren't deeper in talent but have one thing going for them that our team doesn't: COACHING. Look at the coaches and staffs in those cities and then look at wade and co. Man, that's the difference to me: you get the most out of 2nd/3rd stringers by coaching them up. We don't have that capability right now. That's why the media is dissing our team. We have solid first teamers. But when they start to get dinged: and they will, what will happen then?

I think it is equal among the NFL teams. Every team, even the Pats, have needs.
What sets some, like the Pats and Giants and Eagles apart from us are several things:

1. They do not develop a love affair with some players the way we do: Proctor, Stanback, Watkins, and keep them year after year to the detriment of young players or other more deserving players. I blame Jerra more thand Wade.

2. Yes, Coaching. That idiot in San Francisco, Mike Singletary has done one thing right: He has taught his team to tackle. Our defensive guru, Wade, is still waiting for his first playoff win, even with a team that is stocked with talent.
Wade does not have the temperament and will and fierceness to lead our team to the Super Bowl.

3. The other teams have no-names, like us, backing up their players. But somehow teams like the Eagles are able to plug in players with great success. Our depth just flounders. This goes directly to coaching here, or lack of it, by Wade.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

If the purpose of your post is to merely rag on the coaches, you should reflect that in the title. Don't mislead by giving the impression you are going to compare players. I'm not arguing your point one way or the other, just saying the title is misleading.

Fixed.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

We have good depth at

QB
RB
WR
TE
DL
ST

Because of injuries our LB depth has become suspect.

Aside from C, I feel we have adequate OL depth....I like Free, McQuistan, Holland, and Gibbons. I cannot stand Procter and want him gone ASAP.

We don't really use the FB position like we used to. We will only have one on the team most likely. Right now our starter is hurt. I wish we would just cut Anderson and either keep Crosslin or add a 4th TE in Chandler.

I think if we can stay healthy, our CB depth is good with Newman, Jenkins, Scandrick, Ball, and even Mickens.....

I do not like our S depth at all. I am not sold on any of our safeties. IMO, it is the weakest unit of our team.

You really think we have good depth on WR?
Bear in mind that Ogletree, through solid lately, has not yet played a regular season game for us. And Hurd and Austin have been so injured in the past that they can rarely show us their full set of skills.
With all due respect, WR is not among our depth-adequate positions.

 

[DallasDomination]

Seems to me Pitt/Philly/Tenn/NYgspots/Arizona/Baltimore, etc.....aren't deeper in talent but have one thing going for them that our team doesn't: COACHING. Look at the coaches and staffs in those cities and then look at wade and co. Man, that's the difference to me: you get the most out of 2nd/3rd stringers by coaching them up. We don't have that capability right now. That's why the media is dissing our team. We have solid first teamers. But when they start to get dinged: and they will, what will happen then?

We have a middle of the line coachng staff.

 

[zrinkill]

I think we have a very talented Football team

A very talented coaching staff

And a horrible leader as head coach.

 

[Biggems]

You really think we have good depth on WR?
Bear in mind that Ogletree, through solid lately, has not yet played a regular season game for us. And Hurd and Austin have been so injured in the past that they can rarely show us their full set of skills.
With all due respect, WR is not among our depth-adequate positions.

I can accept your viewpoint on the WR position...and I have to say, you make a great argument.

However, as pessimistic as I am, my gut tells me our WR group will do good things this year.

 

[newlander]

I can live with this statement:

59 Minutes Ago #10
zrinkill
Zone Defender


I think we have a very talented Football team

A very talented coaching staff

And a horrible leader as head coach.
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. We are very close IMO. Prove me wrong Wade. Please prove me wrong........................

 

[RS12]

A very talented coaching staff

You think Campo is talented? Secondary often confused and tackles poorly. I still think he is Jerry's mole.

 

[zrinkill]

You think Campo is talented? Secondary often confused and tackles poorly. I still think he is Jerry's mole.

I think he is a good coach but also a poor leader ..... he would do well under a Head coach that had the respect and fear of his players.

Jimmy Johnson had him as his defensive backs coach in college and brought him with him to the NFL.

 

[Quarterback Coach]

Seems to me Pitt/Philly/Tenn/NYgspots/Arizona/Baltimore, etc.....aren't deeper in talent but have one thing going for them that our team doesn't: COACHING. Look at the coaches and staffs in those cities and then look at wade and co. Man, that's the difference to me: you get the most out of 2nd/3rd stringers by coaching them up. We don't have that capability right now. That's why the media is dissing our team. We have solid first teamers. But when they start to get dinged: and they will, what will happen then?

Wow...let me think about this one...not sure if I have any opinions on our coaching...

 

[WarDaddy]

I think we need a new DB coach. No offense to Campo. In observing him, he appears to be a great guy with lots of respect from the team but he should be replaced by someone who could teach technique a little better.

Aside from us getting a sack or big-time pressure on the QB, whenever we get in 3rd and long situations I have little confidence in us getting a stop. This is especially clear in a hurry up or 2 min drill.

The corners and safeties appear to not have much of a clue how to play any kind of zone coverage effectively. In man coverage they are good but zone needs work. That's why we don't get many picks. It's like the DBs just watch the QB and disregard the player running right past them in their zone.

Maybe I'm wrong but I thought that when you are in zone coverage, you cover whoever comes into your zone and then pass him off when he leaves your zone. You trust the nickel back or the safety behind you and watch what develops in front. That way you can come up and make a sure tackle on a dump off.

Plus, someone needs to tell these guys that down and distance makes a difference when you're in coverage. If it's 3rd and 8, don't give up an 8 yard cushion. Cover your guy/zone and trust your pass rush. It doesn't hurt to study film either. The best DBs study tendencies and anticipate. It's like our secondary isn't being taught this.

 

[RS12]

I think we need a new DB coach. No offense to Campo. In observing him, he appears to be a great guy with lots of respect from the team but he should be replaced by someone who could teach technique a little better.

Aside from us getting a sack or big-time pressure on the QB, whenever we get in 3rd and long situations I have little confidence in us getting a stop. This is especially clear in a hurry up or 2 min drill.

The corners and safeties appear to not have much of a clue how to play any kind of zone coverage effectively. In man coverage they are good but zone needs work. That's why we don't get many picks. It's like the DBs just watch the QB and disregard the player running right past them in their zone.

Maybe I'm wrong but I thought that when you are in zone coverage, you cover whoever comes into your zone and then pass him off when he leaves your zone. You trust the nickel back or the safety behind you and watch what develops in front. That way you can come up and make a sure tackle on a dump off.

Plus, someone needs to tell these guys that down and distance makes a difference when you're in coverage. If it's 3rd and 8, don't give up an 8 yard cushion. Cover your guy/zone and trust your pass rush. It doesn't hurt to study film either. The best DBs study tendencies and anticipate. It's like our secondary isn't being taught this.

:shake:

 

[LeonDixson]

I think we need a new DB coach. No offense to Campo. In observing him, he appears to be a great guy with lots of respect from the team but he should be replaced by someone who could teach technique a little better.

Aside from us getting a sack or big-time pressure on the QB, whenever we get in 3rd and long situations I have little confidence in us getting a stop. This is especially clear in a hurry up or 2 min drill.

The corners and safeties appear to not have much of a clue how to play any kind of zone coverage effectively. In man coverage they are good but zone needs work. That's why we don't get many picks. It's like the DBs just watch the QB and disregard the player running right past them in their zone.

Maybe I'm wrong but I thought that when you are in zone coverage, you cover whoever comes into your zone and then pass him off when he leaves your zone. You trust the nickel back or the safety behind you and watch what develops in front. That way you can come up and make a sure tackle on a dump off.

Plus, someone needs to tell these guys that down and distance makes a difference when you're in coverage. If it's 3rd and 8, don't give up an 8 yard cushion. Cover your guy/zone and trust your pass rush. It doesn't hurt to study film either. The best DBs study tendencies and anticipate. It's like our secondary isn't being taught this.

Good points. I wonder who makes the call on whether we play zone vs man-to-man and bump and run vs laying off 8 yds. on any particular play. Would that be Campo or Phillips?

 

[WarDaddy]

Good points. I wonder who makes the call on whether we play zone vs man-to-man and bump and run vs laying off 8 yds. on any particular play. Would that be Campo or Phillips?

Good point. Since Coach Phillips is now the D-Coord too, it should be him making the final call. But with that said, even if he makes a proper call for the down and distance, if the DBs screw it up on the back end it's not really his fault. He can't be expected to micromanage every position on the defense to teach these guys technique. He needs to rely on his coaches for that and I don't think Campo was a Wade Phillips hire.

I personally believe Wade Phillips is a great Defensive coach but he has been hamstrung since he got here. That's not fair.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I can accept your viewpoint on the WR position...and I have to say, you make a great argument.

However, as pessimistic as I am, my gut tells me our WR group will do good things this year.

Let's just agree to disagree. I do hope your gut is right on this one. Because if it is not, then we'll be known as a predictable running team, spiced up by two very good TEs.

We need RW and Crayfish to be good enough to take the pressure off of our RBs.

I am hopeful but not optimistic on our WR. Or its depth.