Is there any question we need secondary help?

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nyc;1710764 said:
What I want to see next off season. Sign Larry Fitzgerald, draft a running back and a CB in the first round. Of course, draft the CB higher than the RB.

Now you are talking! I like that plan. Drafting WR's early is too hit or miss, and they generally seem to miss more often than not based on previous drafts.
 

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The Pats had a glaring weakness last year at WR.

They then proceeded to sign Moss, Stalworth, and trade for Welker.


We need the same aggressive approach to our secondary, and possibly our pass rush.


Just my uneducated opinion.
 

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Sign Michael Turner to pair with Barber and draft a WR and a CB. I'd get the Romo deal done this season and extend Barber and maybe Newman.....

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you can use cap space this yr in the form of a Roster bonus and large portions of that signing bonus can be taken out of this yr and lesson future yr cap hits. Seems like the Eagles did this when they signed Kearse and TO, but it may be too late to do that this yr.
 

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lcharles;1710828 said:
The Pats had a glaring weakness last year at WR.

They then proceeded to sign Moss, Stalworth, and trade for Welker.


We need the same aggressive approach to our secondary, and possibly our pass rush.


Just my uneducated opinion.

Don't think the pass rush will need a boost...Spencer will be a menace next season. I would prefer going after wideouts.
 

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canters;1710578 said:
Hopefully we will not play another team with 3 good/great receivers. Clearly we cannot cover all 3 at one time.

What team can?
 

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Doomsday;1710859 said:
What team can?

Exactly ....... Washington has a backfield of all top 10 picks ..... and they are getting passed on by lesser teams.


the overreaction from one loss is astounding ..... grow up people.
 

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zrinkill;1710956 said:
Exactly ....... Washington has a backfield of all top 10 picks ..... and they are getting passed on by lesser teams.


the overreaction from one loss is astounding ..... grow up people.

You call it an overreaction, I call it practical and prudent.

The idea that we can get by with a so-so secondary with the weak sisters of the league and then get shredded by a top-flight QB does not sit well.

The reason? Because the good QBs get into the playoffs and THAT is when you really need the secondary to show up.

This game was not the first realization that our secondary is vulnerable.
Anyone who didn't know it is out of the loop and naive.

So don't treat the debacle as if it came as such a surprise and fans are astounded.

Draft needs for next year, WR/CB/S whether through FA or the draft.

Also, my first inclination was to rage at Stewart. Bt with the injuries to the secondary and his rookies and all, Stewart, IMHO, did as well as could be expected. His line, I might add, did him proud. The D line was effective enough that Brady had to go to the air often cause he saw the vulnerability right away.

In closing, eat more fiber, sleep more, barbecue more and get louder when you root for the Cowboys.

Now it is on to the Vikes. Shut them down like the public shutting down a Spike Lee film.
 

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GimmeTheBall!;1711087 said:
You call it an overreaction, I call it practical and prudent.

The idea that we can get by with a so-so secondary with the weak sisters of the league and then get shredded by a top-flight QB does not sit well.

The reason? Because the good QBs get into the playoffs and THAT is when you really need the secondary to show up.

This game was not the first realization that our secondary is vulnerable.
Anyone who didn't know it is out of the loop and naive.

So don't treat the debacle as if it came as such a surprise and fans are astounded.

Draft needs for next year, WR/CB/S whether through FA or the draft.

Also, my first inclination was to rage at Stewart. Bt with the injuries to the secondary and his rookies and all, Stewart, IMHO, did as well as could be expected. His line, I might add, did him proud. The D line was effective enough that Brady had to go to the air often cause he saw the vulnerability right away.

In closing, eat more fiber, sleep more, barbecue more and get louder when you root for the Cowboys.

Now it is on to the Vikes. Shut them down like the public shutting down a Spike Lee film.

So having a backfield comprised of all top 10 picks have helped the Skins?

We have a starting backfield comprised of
2 top 10 picks
an early second rounder
and a 4th rounder

its not like we have a bunch of bums out there.

Lets see how Washington does with their high drafted and high priced secondary in 2 weeks ..... you think they can stop the Pats passing game?

Like I said ..... overreaction to this loss.
 

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sago1;1710657 said:
Our DL did a pretty good job early on but the whole defense wore out. The return of Ferguson next year will help but hopefully Tank Johnson can be a major addition either at DT and occasionally at DE. Still love Ratliff but Pats were attacking our middle late in the game.

I doubt Ferguson will be back next year... not at $4 mil.

The Pats had success late due to our inept offensive play in the 1st quarter combined with the defenses' inability to get off the field on 3rd down.

We certainly need another corner. And a speed WR would help a great deal.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1711112 said:
We certainly need another corner. And a speed WR would help a great deal.

If the plan was to get another corner and turn Henry into our free safety ..... I would be all for it.
 

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zrinkill;1711096 said:
So having a backfield comprised of all top 10 picks have helped the Skins?

We have a starting backfield comprised of
2 top 10 picks
an early second rounder
and a 4th rounder

its not like we have a bunch of bums out there.

Lets see how Washington does with their high drafted and high priced secondary in 2 weeks ..... you think they can stop the Pats passing game?

Like I said ..... overreaction to this loss.

What the skins did or do has little bearing on what the 'Boys should do.

Otherwise let's just chuck the draft and only go for proven FAs.

Honestly, if our secondary is burned twice and there are calls for immediate help -- that is an overreaction.

If our secondary is burned every time (or almost every time) that a good QB like Brady throws the ball, that is a valid concern.

If anything, your rush to defend an overmatched secondary is the overreation.:eek:
 

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canters;1710578 said:
Hopefully we will not play another team with 3 good/great receivers. Clearly we cannot cover all 3 at one time.

Well, then the Cowboys need to get two more good/great receivers, and one more good/great CB.
 

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GimmeTheBall!;1711661 said:
What the skins did or do has little bearing on what the 'Boys should do.

Otherwise let's just chuck the draft and only go for proven FAs.

Honestly, if our secondary is burned twice and there are calls for immediate help -- that is an overreaction.

If our secondary is burned every time (or almost every time) that a good QB like Brady throws the ball, that is a valid concern.

If anything, your rush to defend an overmatched secondary is the overreation.:eek:

My god ...... you actually make less sense the more you post.

Brady has burned every secondary they have played this year ..... and we were leading the game in the 3rd quarter.

I brought up Washington because they are the only team that has been stupid enough to follow your "1st rounder at every DB position" suggestion .... and they will not stop Brady either.

As far as your "the secondary is burned every time we play a guy as good as Tom Brady" scenario ...... I would say is real cute, since there is only 2 guys that good in the League ...... and we beat one of them last year.

I wonder if the Colts fans overreacted like you are after we beat them last year ..... I guess their team needed to make widespread changes as well huh?

:rolleyes:
 

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I'll worry about the draft when it gets here. For now the guys we have are what we will go with and I think we can win games with these guys
 

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Doomsday101;1711965 said:
I'll worry about the draft when it gets here. For now the guys we have are what we will go with and I think we can win games with these guys

Exactly ...... I would not mind picking up a really good Corner if there is one were we pick. But unlike the rest of these guys, I do not see the need to start over in our secondary.

I think we could use a great young Wideout, RB, Corner, and NT.

But we have pretty good ones here already. Age and constant injuries are the only thing I am real worried about.
 

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zrinkill;1711951 said:
My god ...... you actually make less sense the more you post.

Brady has burned every secondary they have played this year ..... and we were leading the game in the 3rd quarter.

I brought up Washington because they are the only team that has been stupid enough to follow your "1st rounder at every DB position" suggestion .... and they will not stop Brady either.

As far as your "the secondary is burned every time we play a guy as good as Tom Brady" scenario ...... I would say is real cute, since there is only 2 guys that good in the League ...... and we beat one of them last year.

I wonder if the Colts fans overreacted like you are after we beat them last year ..... I guess their team needed to make widespread changes as well huh?

:rolleyes:

Let me clear on this. For you.
I don't give a rat's behind what the Skins and now the Colts are doing or have done.
It's very simple -- and try to follow along this premise, even if you have to mouth the words while you read.
We need help at secondary. If you are sold with our current package, great.
But back to earth: We need help at secondary -- now or next season --whether we play the lowly Vikes or the great Pats. To say "this is just one game so we can afford to lose with a lousy secondary" is plain stupidity.
We need a better secondary. Period. End of story time for you, Z.

We don't need to take lessons from your skins or your Colts.
We need what works for the Cowboys.
Again, Einstein, if you are sold on our package, think on this as you eat your farina: We might play the Pats again far down the road. And that won't be just another game, this will be for all the marbles.
Got it?
See, it's fun when you use your brain!
:D
 

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GimmeTheBall!;1711987 said:
See, it's fun when you use your brain!
:D

How would you know that kid? You have not done it this entire thread.

We do not "need" a better secondary .... we need our secondary to play better.

You say we could not win in the Superbowl with this secondary .... How do you think this secondary is gonna change before then, except to play better with Henry?

If you are talking about next year ....... well I am not ready to concede this year yet just because you are too gutless to man up and stop crying.

Now you and Edunce go tell each other some more stories about the Super Secondary we can get in the draft ..... idiotic clowns.
 

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zrinkill;1711978 said:
Exactly ...... I would not mind picking up a really good Corner if there is one were we pick. But unlike the rest of these guys, I do not see the need to start over in our secondary.

I think we could use a great young Wideout, RB, Corner, and NT.

But we have pretty good ones here already. Age and constant injuries are the only thing I am real worried about.

True. As I said the Cowboys will deal with the draft when it gets here and right now we don't know where we are going to pick or who will be on the board and frankly it is the last thing on my mind. I don't wait all off-season for the reg season to get here to worry about who we will draft for next year. We are 5-1 and stumbled yesterday aginst a very good team this season is far from over.
 

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zrinkill;1712006 said:
We do not "need" a better secondary .... we need our secondary to play better.

Further proof that you are indeed an Einstein.
And don't bring in your brother, Eduncan, to help your cause.
You can go back now to your McFadden poster.
:laugh2:
 
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