Is there any question we need secondary help?

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GimmeTheBall!;1712016 said:
Further proof that you are indeed an Einstein.
And don't bring in your brother, Eduncan, to help your cause.
You can go back now to your McFadden poster.

You are the one agreeing with Edunce child.... Thats has to hurt.

And I do not even want Mcfadden .... which once again proves how silly you are.

Keep making yourself look pathetic with this tantrum you are throwing because we lost our first game in week 6. Keep going on and on about how bad we suck .... :lmao:
 

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It was a painful loss, but mainly the execution end of it...I didn't really have any illusions about how good the Pats were...They might just be better than the Cowboys in '95, really...Especially, if they develop their running game again.

A lot of bad but even some good in this...Mostly, I was disappointed in the lack of pass rush, penetration on the D-Line, poor LBs (No run stopping) and generally poor tackling from the defense...Did all of those things make them lose?...No...I'm not sure Wade & Co. game planned well on either side of the ball, really...Penalties definitely reflected the lack of discipline the Cowboys possess, as well....Everytime they had a shot, they ended up shooting themselves in the foot.

I still maintain that when they got into the red zone late they wasted opportunities to score a TD after Tyson Thompson finally got a decent return....They walked away with 3pts instead of 7 and it could've been a different ballgame had they better exectued in the red zone there...Even going for it would've been a good move, you gamble and lose you're still 2 scores down which is what they were after the FG...Offensively, they ended up in so many 3rd and longs (Refrain, I know) which is always going to catch up to you...And that might work with Tony Ballgame against most opponents but not with the front 7 of NE...That's not a knock on Tony, just a fact...That being said, Pats seemed to always have someone open on offense despite the rush and despite the coverage...Conversely, Cowboys didn't...Big gap there in terms of coaching....And running game?...Signature example that this tandem stuff is a waste of time, there's no real running game much less effective run blocking...If Dallas wants to run, let's see them use Barber or use JJ but this back and forth really looked desperate yesterday...And I don't care what any 'expert' says, Flozell should not be resigned

Defensively, what can you say?...Apart from that late failure by Reeves on Stallworth, DBs tried to stay in coverages and not give up anything big...Still, they couldn't negate the passing attack, period...In particular, anything within 5 yards was an automatic completion for the Pats...And pass rush?...Still a lofty dream, IMHO....Hardly a whimper, especially by the much hyped DWare...Where was Ellis and Spencer?

It's painful but there are some caveats here...This still is a better team than last season (Although, I agree, the Indy game showcased a stouter defense...but it never reappeared as the season went on last year)...There's a lot of the season left and they will get better and healthier...It was a measuring stick game and for 3 Qtrs, they were in it...The cream rose to the top, though, by the end.

I will say this, Philips' much ballyhooed force of a 3-4 to be reckoned with has been as overhyped as any I can remember...I can recall a lot of rhetoric in the preseason about how much freedom the defense now had to make plays rather than Parcells' 3-4...Big joke....Spears is worthless which still surprises me since he was such a force at LSU

We should take solace in the fact that this a budding team, not a finished product...Better days still ahead.
 

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I honestly didn't see a problem with the safeties yesterday, I saw a problem with Nate Jones.

Reeves needed help (which he shouldn't have needed) and occasionally they put help over Newman. But last year we were able to play Newman in the slot because we had Glenn and Henry playing, and had we had a better pass rush and Hamlin, we probably would've been dominant.

Nate must be sent away as soon as the season ends. I still like Hamlin back there, draft another FS 2nd round to come in on Nickel/Dime while Roy moves to ILB as he's been doing, then draft a CB and SPEED WR 1st round.

Try and trade for Fitzgerald if at all possible, then we have no need to draft a WR 1st rd. Then get some competition for Kosier, prepare a take over at LT for Flozell in the near future, and rock on.
 

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What are you talking about??? Detriot WAS the number 1 passing attack coming into Washington and Kitna had a 120 QB rating. Less than 100 net yards and 0 TDs and 2 INTs... Then we went to Green Bay who, because of our ability to shut down Detriot, took on the mantle of best passing attack. 188 yards and 0 TDs and 2 INTs for a passer rating of 43, in just about every statistical category, his worst game of the year.

Knock the skins for whatever, but the secondary is performing pretty damn well. As to what to expect when we take on the Patriots, well, we'll see.
 

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zrinkill;1712025 said:
You are the one agreeing with Edunce child.... Thats has to hurt.

And I do not even want Mcfadden .... which once again proves how silly you are.

Keep making yourself look pathetic with this tantrum you are throwing because we lost our first game in week 6. Keep going on and on about how bad we suck .... :lmao:

No, the Boys don't suck. It's their secondary. If you need any proof of that, just check the game film tomorrow with our secondary.

And aside from the secondary, your posts suck.

And if you did less of that pounding (:lmao:) on yourself, you might read better and not jump to concussions like you are prone. Or supine, whichever case may be.:)
 

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GimmeTheBall!;1712214 said:
No, the Boys don't suck. It's their secondary. If you need any proof of that, just check the game film tomorrow with our secondary.

And aside from the secondary, your posts suck.

And if you did less of that pounding (:lmao:) on yourself, you might read better and not jump to concussions like you are prone. Or supine, whichever case may be.:)

OK kid ......once again you are showing your age.

How would you "add" to the secondary this year? Or are you just ready to throw in the towel after one loss like a coward?

We had our second corner (the one who leads the NFC in Ints) out and were still ahead 24 - 21 in the 3rd Quarter.

I am sorry you do not have any faith in the boys ..... goodluck cheering for the draft next year ..... I will keep supporting this team sense I understand that the year is not over after one loss.

Just pathetic ...... have fun playing with your twin Edunce.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1710600 said:
That happens when a team wins the Time of Possession battle in the fashion the patriots did.

We also seem to be a team that does not run the ball as much as we should.

It is funny but at times last year we all complained that bill was calling for the ball to be ran too many times. However this year it seems we should be running it a tad more.

There is a delicate balance there that we need to find.

I know there are times you need to pass to open the run game. I know there are times when you have to play catch up.

However I also feel there are times when we abandon the run too early and get a little pass happy.

Even if the run is not always working you can not just completely abandon it.

Just as a passing game can help open up the running game, the running game can help open the passing game.

I wonder how many times we could get some good shots down field if we ran the ball enough to make teams respect the play action.

I think we had too many 3 and outs and 3rd down conversions was so so. We fell behind and Pats had 38 Minute TOP.

But agree we need to be more committed to run to balance against the better teams.

Tough to establish run as that is happening.
 

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All these "we need a new CB or safety" are such knee-jerk reactions.

People, we played Tom Brady and company.

If you have not noticed yet Brady has throw for 21 TDs and 2 INTs along with 74% completion percentage.

He was sacked only 3 times in 5 games entering Sundays game which shows how good that O-Line is playing.

The Patriots are going to continue making every secondary they play look foolish.

We will look "less" foolish if we see them again in early February with a healthy Anthony Henry.
 

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We need to draft a stud CB this year.

Can't have too many good corners.
 

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zrinkill;1712222 said:
OK kid ......once again you are showing your age.

How would you "add" to the secondary this year? Or are you just ready to throw in the towel after one loss like a coward?

We had our second corner (the one who leads the NFC in Ints) out and were still ahead 24 - 21 in the 3rd Quarter.

I am sorry you do not have any faith in the boys ..... goodluck cheering for the draft next year ..... I will keep supporting this team sense I understand that the year is not over after one loss.

Just pathetic ...... have fun playing with your twin Edunce.

E is no relations but he's your Daddy.

No faith in the Cowboys? You are a liar, Pinocchio.
You put words in people's mouths.

I do have little faith in the secondary. And littleler faith in your understanding of a basic tenet of defensive football. You protect against the run AND the pass.

So, as you lay your pointy little head tonight, think of that 24-21 score in the third quarter. Ah, Nice.
Now, PointyHead, wake up to the nightmare of a half-ashed secondary beset by injury and lack of speed. Yes, a frightful picture of what may be in the postseason. Against the Brady machine again.
Yeah, frightful.

You can untwist them now, Mr. LiarHead.
:eek:
 

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GimmeTheBall!;1712261 said:
You can untwist them now, Mr. LiarHead.

You talk alot for someone who has nothing to say .....

I asked you what you would do to fix the secondary this year.

You had nothing.....

So I assume you want to pack it in since you think we will have no chance in a rematch
GimmeTheBall!;1711987 said:
if you are sold on our package, think on this as you eat your farina: We might play the Pats again far down the road. And that won't be just another game, this will be for all the marbles.

:rolleyes: so pathetic .....

You are a chicken little fan who is throwing a tantrum because we were beaten by a more experienced team.

Thats the truth ..... hope you choke on it kid.
 

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smarta5150;1712230 said:
All these "we need a new CB or safety" are such knee-jerk reactions.

People, we played Tom Brady and company.

If you have not noticed yet Brady has throw for 21 TDs and 2 INTs along with 74% completion percentage.

He was sacked only 3 times in 5 games entering Sundays game which shows how good that O-Line is playing.

The Patriots are going to continue making every secondary they play look foolish.

We will look "less" foolish if we see them again in early February with a healthy Anthony Henry.

I am sure every teams message board had a few "gimmietheballs" posting franticly after the Pats beat them on how the "sky is falling"

Its pathetic ...... there needs to be an age limit.
 

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Our Pass D has fallen to 24th in the NFL.

Stewart really got his arse handed to him in the 2nd Half.

I'm still trying to figure out what the adjustments were...


This was our 2006 Saints game...we got exposed again.

Book this...every team we play is gonna run some form of the spread O on us. Stewart does not know how to defend it.
 

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eduncan22;1712327 said:
Our Pass D has fallen to 24th in the NFL.

Stewart really got his arse handed to him in the 2nd Half.

I'm still trying to figure out what the adjustments were...


This was our 2006 Saints game...we got exposed again.

Book this...every team we play is gonna run some form of the spread O on us. Stewart does not know how to defend it.

Well since you know how the season is gonna end ..... guess you do not have to watch another game or post on a real fan board any longer .....

bye bye ...... we wont miss you.
 

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eduncan22;1712327 said:
Our Pass D has fallen to 24th in the NFL.

Stewart really got his arse handed to him in the 2nd Half.

I'm still trying to figure out what the adjustments were...


This was our 2006 Saints game...we got exposed again.

Book this...every team we play is gonna run some form of the spread O on us. Stewart does not know how to defend it.


:lmao2::lmao2::lmao2:


I didnt know every team in the league had a Randy Moss, Dante Stallworth and a Wes Welker.

Also an offensive line that gave up 3 sacks on 5 games.

AND a QB like Tom Brady


There are two teams in the league that can hurt you with mismatches in a "spread" offense.

The Patriots and the Colts.

Only two teams who have the 3 key ingredients:

Great QB, great pass protecting O-Line, and many weapons at the receiver/TE positions.

Get real people.

We played a dominant offense with our #1 and 3 and 4 CBs.
 

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zrinkill;1712341 said:
Well since you know how the season is gonna end ..... guess you do not have to watch another game or post on a real fan board any longer .....

bye bye ...... we wont miss you.


Wake up man...I've owned this subject for months.

I was one of the first to write about this problem.

It needs fixed...but its not gonna get fixed..until April.
 

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smarta5150;1712342 said:
:lmao2::lmao2::lmao2:


I didnt know every team in the league had a Randy Moss, Dante Stallworth and a Wes Welker.

Also an offensive line that gave up 3 sacks on 5 games.

AND a QB like Tom Brady


There are two teams in the league that can hurt you with mismatches in a "spread" offense.

The Patriots and the Colts.

Only two teams who have the 3 key ingredients:

Great QB, great pass protecting O-Line, and many weapons at the receiver/TE positions.

Get real people.

We played a dominant offense with our #1 and 3 and 4 CBs.

Are you talking about the Saints...or the Pats?
 

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eduncan22;1712353 said:
Are you talking about the Saints...or the Pats?

You said we were exposed.

So the Vikes are going to take advantge of the film study this week and throw for 300 yards on us?
 
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