Is There Any Way McCarthy Doesn't go QB First Round?

Pass2Run said:
What do you mean he doesn't have that much clout?
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As in, he's not telling Jerry who to draft. Not a chance. Especially drafting the replacement of a player Jerry just restructured. Jerry may take suggestions, but not demands. He's the boss.

Like it or not, Dak is playing this season. If he craps the bed, they may consider not restructuring his contract for 2023. But he's here for now.
 
Pass2Run said:
Think about it.

You have four extra draft picks. You can do a lot of damage with those picks.

And it's quite possibly your last year here if Dakota doesn't win it for you.

Do you want to bank on a quarterback with no real awareness or urgency to win big games?

Sure, he can stroll through a few games against bad teams. But it's like the boyfriend you tell your daughter to avoid because he lacks ambition. To me, that's Dakota. He's just kinda there.

Some think Matt Corrall drops to 20..

Any way you make something happen to get him?

Some have him going to the Steelers, but the Cowboys also brought him in.

Which means: they are thinking about using a high pick at quarterback.. something they haven't done recently.

Dakota showed why he's a fourth round pick in the playoffs.

If you think anything otherwise, you weren't watching for the things you need in a quarterback to win those big games. Like a sense of urgency to win!

I sense that despite his demeanor McCarthy has that urgency while Dak doesn't.. And I think, at least I hope, Dallas realizes it's time to draft a quarterback in the 1st and surprises those who believe we've already made up our minds to hang our hats on Dakota.

I believe McCarthy knows he'd be wise to move on here, and we'll see that reflected in how he drafts.
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There is 0 chance it happens.

Beside this would be a terrible draft to do it in. There is a reason the Eagles traded out a pick in the draft for one next year. This isnt the year to draft a QB
 
Pass2Run said:
What do you mean he doesn't have that much clout?

Only a beta male coach would want to just not his head and roll the dice on a quarterback like Dak.

He's talented, to some degree. I'm not saying Dak sucks, like he's the worst.

But he's just not a championship quarterback.

That's why I take my chances, if it presents itself, say, if a guy like Carson Strong did happen to fall.

I think we actually have more of a chance of drafting a QB than many think.

Jerry is an old drunk. But he has two eyes.

And if he's simply not going to listen to his head coach's input, like at all, then he's an absolute fool.

No way he believes in his heart of hearts that Dakota Prescott can win it all for him.

All he has to do is go back and compare right now to the days of Aikman and remember what Aikman's drive to win was really like.

Dak does not have that same clutch, drive, will to win, whatever you want to call, it's not there.

So, give me a guy like Carson Strong? Somehow in this draft?

I also like Matt Corrall, if he's there in the 2nd.

People who say this class is weak at QB really haven't looked hard at Strong, imo.

Many think Malik Willis is the best QB, but I don't see that. I think it's Strong.
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Jerry has invested big bucks in Dak and he is not moving on from him . I meant exactly what I said. McCarthy doesn’t make the decisions about which players they draft. It is Jerry and Stephen making the call.
 
darthseinfeld said:
There is 0 chance it happens.

Beside this would be a terrible draft to do it in. There is a reason the Eagles traded out a pick in the draft for one next year. This isnt the year to draft a QB
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I keep hearing this, and it's true, but what year was it good to draft a QB? In recent history? Last year was all hype. We got Mac Jones who's decent, may get better. Lawrence, the jury is still out. The rest were no different than these bums. I'm guessing there's a Mac Jones or two somewhere in this draft.
 
Flamma said:
I keep hearing this, and it's true, but what year was it good to draft a QB? In recent history? Last year was all hype. We got Mac Jones who's decent, may get better. Lawrence, the jury is still out. The rest were no different than these bums. I'm guessing there's a Mac Jones or two somewhere in this draft.
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Its not something we need to really think about for a while. In all likelihood they will give Prescott a 3rd contract because the voidable years made it prohibitive not to
 
Pass2Run said:
What do you mean he doesn't have that much clout?

Only a beta male coach would want to just not his head and roll the dice on a quarterback like Dak.

He's talented, to some degree. I'm not saying Dak sucks, like he's the worst.

But he's just not a championship quarterback.

That's why I take my chances, if it presents itself, say, if a guy like Carson Strong did happen to fall.

I think we actually have more of a chance of drafting a QB than many think.

Jerry is an old drunk. But he has two eyes.

And if he's simply not going to listen to his head coach's input, like at all, then he's an absolute fool.

No way he believes in his heart of hearts that Dakota Prescott can win it all for him.

All he has to do is go back and compare right now to the days of Aikman and remember what Aikman's drive to win was really like.

Dak does not have that same clutch, drive, will to win, whatever you want to call, it's not there.

So, give me a guy like Carson Strong? Somehow in this draft?

I also like Matt Corrall, if he's there in the 2nd.

People who say this class is weak at QB really haven't looked hard at Strong, imo.

Many think Malik Willis is the best QB, but I don't see that. I think it's Strong.
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Mike McCarthy, Jason Garrett, Wade Phillips, Bill Parcells, Dave Campo, Chan Gailey, Barry Switzer, Jimmy Johnson... I just listed the head coaches since Booger bought the Dallas Cowboys. Out of that list, How many puppets would you say that is? 6 out of 8 are "Yes Sir, whatever you say Sir" puppets... That's what he means by saying McCarthy doesn't have that much clout... Jerry will never let a HC make personnel decisions. He let Jimmy Johnson have a lot of breathing room as well as Bill Parcells but the choker chain has always been tight around every other head coach.
 
Pass2Run said:
You know what I really love?

People who assume..

I've been around since way back. Since when I was literally the first person who thought Romo was a decent player.

I've learned one thing. People on here who pretend to know the most, generally don't know all that much.

Not sure how long you've been around. But I first came here back when this place was called Mazevo, or something, and doomsday101 and a few others and I migrated from an old Austin360 site... it was like twitter, almost. .You could only write so many characters.

Continue assuming on.

Cowboys fans think drafting a QB early is a dumb idea, because they've been conditioned to think that.

I've fallen victim myself to this kind of conditioning, as a fan. But seriously, we deserve better.

Some have Carson Strong going #1 overall. Some have him falling to the 3rd round.

I can't call it.

But to me, he seems the most NFL ready.

I just know we need another quarterback.

And until we fix that, who we draft when won't matter much.

Dak is what he is.. best of the bums.. and bums generally don't win Super Bowls, Trent Dilfer aside.
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First, lighten up. With all due respect, the question is one a newbie would ask. Why?

Second, there's no way McCarthy is going to go for a quarterback in the first round. Why?
a. He doesn't control the draft; Jerry and Will McClay do.
b. We have other pressing needs beyond quarterback.
c. There are no quarterbacks worth taking in the first round, especially if we have a starting quarterback. Some quarterback-starved team is going to take one. But this isn't particularly a strong quarterback draft, at least not for the first round.
d. We just paid Dak $40 million a year. Why would we spend big bucks on a quarterback who isn't going to see the field unless Dak goes out with an injury?
 
Pass2Run said:
Think about it.

You have four extra draft picks. You can do a lot of damage with those picks.

And it's quite possibly your last year here if Dakota doesn't win it for you.

Do you want to bank on a quarterback with no real awareness or urgency to win big games?

Sure, he can stroll through a few games against bad teams. But it's like the boyfriend you tell your daughter to avoid because he lacks ambition. To me, that's Dakota. He's just kinda there.

Some think Matt Corrall drops to 20..

Any way you make something happen to get him?

Some have him going to the Steelers, but the Cowboys also brought him in.

Which means: they are thinking about using a high pick at quarterback.. something they haven't done recently.

Dakota showed why he's a fourth round pick in the playoffs.

If you think anything otherwise, you weren't watching for the things you need in a quarterback to win those big games. Like a sense of urgency to win!

I sense that despite his demeanor McCarthy has that urgency while Dak doesn't.. And I think, at least I hope, Dallas realizes it's time to draft a quarterback in the 1st and surprises those who believe we've already made up our minds to hang our hats on Dakota.

I believe McCarthy knows he'd be wise to move on here, and we'll see that reflected in how he drafts.
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what 4 extra picks? you mean the ones in the 5th round where 95% of the players don't make it in the NFL>

I guarantee you we won't go QB in the first round.
 
Gaede said:
Interesting that you haven't mentioned Ridder or Willis. Why not?
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I like both players. I personally think Strong is a good player, if they can determine he's healthy.

But I also like the two you mention. I can't tell if Ridder would be a good starter in the NFL. And Willis certainly has all the tools on film, physical tools.

But when I look at quarterbacks, I like to hear them talk, think, see how they process information, because that's very important indicator as to how they'll play over time.

I like Strong.. Because I see him processing information the fastest of all the prospects, especially when I look at his reads. He's quick, accurate. Has the Brady-like drive to win.

My favorite QB in this draft for sure.

 
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April Fools day was nine days ago.

I'm actually a little embarrassed I opened this thread.
 
Hardline said:
April Fools day was nine days ago.

I'm actually a little embarrassed I opened this thread.
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So, I guess it's safe to say you'd be surprised if they draft QB in rounds 1 or even maybe 2?
 
Hardline said:
I absolutely would .
The chances are slim to none and slim just left town.
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I think we're getting a quarterback in this draft. Not sure when, but I won't be surprised if it's early to let someone develop behind Dak.. Dallas loves QB controversy anyway.. It'll be good to push Dak.. That's how you get the most out to the position anyway.. you create competition.

I certainly hope the Cowboys don't go all-in on Dak.. I know we're set up to go with Dak. But we have enough picks to set ourselves up at QB early on and still bring in the talent we need at other spots..
 
Pass2Run said:
I'm sorry you feel that way.

If we're reading tea leaves. Cowboys may be considering Carroll in the 2nd.

Just the way I see it.
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It's just the way you worded it.
As if for sure Dallas will go QB in round 1.

Honestly, that seems unbelievably far-fetched...especially with a fairly down QB class. Almost the very LAST position (other than kicker) that we would take at 24)
The value wouldn't be there plus there is the fact that just last year they signed on with Dak in a huge way.

Having said that, if one of the top 5 QBs is still there at 56, I'd be a bit more up for taking them because at that stage the value would be good and worth the risk.
 
DFWJC said:
It's just the way you worded it.
As if for sure Dallas will go QB in round 1.

Honestly, that seems unbelievably far-fetched...especially with a fairly down QB class. Almost the very LAST position (other than kicker) that we would take at 24)
The value wouldn't be there plus there is the fact that just last year they signed on with Dak in a huge way.

Having said that, if one of the top 5 QBs is still there at 56, I'd be a bit more up for taking them because at that stage the value would be good and worth the risk.
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I don't know. I see it this way. For whatever reason, Dak stunk it up in the playoffs, and I just sense his seat isn't as secure as most fans assume.

But that's just me. I trust my gut.

I think this quarterback class is deceptive.

There's a bunch of good talent there.

I think we'll have a QB by round 3 at the latest.

We need a little competition to keep Dak from getting complacent..

I see this as a pretty deep quarterback, though, for the purposes of drafting and developing a guy to compete with Dakota.
 
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