Is this team cursed?

[Nightman]

Seriously. I'm not assigning blame or bashing JJ or JG or anyone else, it just seems nothing can go right for us. Did JJ make a deal with the Devil to get those 3 rings in turn for 20 years of chaos? I'm not even saying that if he did it was a bad deal. It's just hard for a fan that grew up on Staubach, Landry, Dorsett, Doomsday and then got to enjoy the Triplets and Jimmy Johnson to endure.

Every time something positive happens to re-ignite the fires, something goes wrong like Ratliff or even the Callahan story. One step forward, two steps back, then one sideways, then one forward, then sideways.....

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Cursed? I don't know. But the owner is always drunk.

 

[kevm3]

More like when you have an owner who doesn't make rational or optimal decisions, you get the mediocrity that is the Cowboys.

You would think that after nearly 20 years of doing the same thing over and over, Jerry Jones would get the hint and go and hire a general manager... you would think he would hire a strong-willed head coach and move out the way... but yet it never happens. We continually get more of the Jones Circus. It's more about Jerry Jones getting attention and doing things his way than it is about winning, which is why we are destined for continued mediocrity.

 

[IAmLegend]

Cursed? No. Terribly managed? Yes.

 

[Wezsh0T]

Jerry did say that he did make a deal to win that last one. I forget where I saw this.

 

[ThrowuptheXDez88]

I understand given the Josh Brent/Jerry Brown tragedy, you would think these guys would learn their lesson. Sadly this happens everywhere, even with the most successful teams...

Marshawn Lynch The Seahawks' strong running back was arrested on July 14 in Oakland for investigation of DUI.

Michael Turner charged with DUI after ‘Monday Night Football’ game
Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:03 AM EDT


San Francisco 49ers linebacker Aldon Smith was charged Saturday with driving under the influence in Miami Beach. January 29, 2012, 10:35 AM ET

November 30, 2012, 6:47 PM ET
SAN FRANCISCO -- San Francisco 49ers defensive lineman Demarcus Dobbs was arrested early Friday morning on suspicion of driving under the influence and possession of marijuana, the California Highway Patrol said.

As Albert McClellan closes in on a starting job on the Ravens' defense, the outside linebacker is in the process of dealing with an accusation of domestic violence. McClellan was arrested on June 30 2012 in his hometown of Lakeland, Fla., and charged with battery (a first-degree misdemeanor), and simple assault with threat or intent to do violence (a second-degree misdemeanor)

Jul 15, 2012 – Broncos defensive end Elvis Dumervil was arrested and charged with aggravated assault with a firearm, a felony, on Saturday night in Miami.

Knowshon Moreno
Running back
2/1/12
Arrested on suspicion of DUI, pulled over for driving 70 mph in 45-mph zone.

Kenny Britt The Tennessee Titans wide receiver was arrested July 20 at Fort Campbell (Ky.) military base and charged with suspicion of DWI.

Robert Quinn The Rams defensive end caught a drunken driving charge stemming from a July 10 arrest

David Diehl The Super Bowl winning offensive lineman was arrested on suspicion of DWI on June 10.

Justin Blackmon The recently drafted WR was arrested on an aggravated DUI charge on June 3 in Oklahoma after authorities said he blew three times the legal limit of alcohol in his system

Brandon Meriweather The new Commanders safety was pulled over for speeding and was arrested on suspicion of DUI on April 26.

Darrius Heyward-Bey A high draft pick by the Raiders a few years ago, the receiver was charged with DUI after an arrest on April 7.

Leroy Hill The Seahawks linebacker was arrested and charged with marijuana posession on Feb. 25.

 

[Nightman]

I understand given the Josh Brent/Jerry Brown tragedy, you would think these guys would learn their lesson. Sadly this happens everywhere, even with the most successful teams...

Marshawn Lynch The Seahawks' strong running back was arrested on July 14 in Oakland for investigation of DUI.

Michael Turner charged with DUI after ‘Monday Night Football’ game
Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:03 AM EDT


San Francisco 49ers linebacker Aldon Smith was charged Saturday with driving under the influence in Miami Beach. January 29, 2012, 10:35 AM ET

November 30, 2012, 6:47 PM ET
SAN FRANCISCO -- San Francisco 49ers defensive lineman Demarcus Dobbs was arrested early Friday morning on suspicion of driving under the influence and possession of marijuana, the California Highway Patrol said.

As Albert McClellan closes in on a starting job on the Ravens' defense, the outside linebacker is in the process of dealing with an accusation of domestic violence. McClellan was arrested on June 30 2012 in his hometown of Lakeland, Fla., and charged with battery (a first-degree misdemeanor), and simple assault with threat or intent to do violence (a second-degree misdemeanor)

Jul 15, 2012 – Broncos defensive end Elvis Dumervil was arrested and charged with aggravated assault with a firearm, a felony, on Saturday night in Miami.

Knowshon Moreno
Running back
2/1/12
Arrested on suspicion of DUI, pulled over for driving 70 mph in 45-mph zone.

Kenny Britt The Tennessee Titans wide receiver was arrested July 20 at Fort Campbell (Ky.) military base and charged with suspicion of DWI.

Robert Quinn The Rams defensive end caught a drunken driving charge stemming from a July 10 arrest

David Diehl The Super Bowl winning offensive lineman was arrested on suspicion of DWI on June 10.

Justin Blackmon The recently drafted WR was arrested on an aggravated DUI charge on June 3 in Oklahoma after authorities said he blew three times the legal limit of alcohol in his system

Brandon Meriweather The new Commanders safety was pulled over for speeding and was arrested on suspicion of DUI on April 26.

Darrius Heyward-Bey A high draft pick by the Raiders a few years ago, the receiver was charged with DUI after an arrest on April 7.

Leroy Hill The Seahawks linebacker was arrested and charged with marijuana posession on Feb. 25.

Some good points. It's probably because the Boys are so popular that when it happens here it seems blown out of proportion.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

No, not cursed. It's more likely a matter of being poorly managed and run over the past decade.

 

[The Realist]

Jerry did say that he did make a deal to win that last one. I forget where I saw this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44gY8ID8m9I

13 minute mark Jerry talks about the vow he made for 3rd Super Bowl.

Game, set, match.

 

[Rynie]

Jerry did say that he did make a deal to win that last one. I forget where I saw this.

Jerry Is the devil.

 

[CowboysPhan]

I understand given the Josh Brent/Jerry Brown tragedy, you would think these guys would learn their lesson. Sadly this happens everywhere, even with the most successful teams...

Marshawn Lynch The Seahawks' strong running back was arrested on July 14 in Oakland for investigation of DUI.

Michael Turner charged with DUI after ‘Monday Night Football’ game
Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:03 AM EDT


San Francisco 49ers linebacker Aldon Smith was charged Saturday with driving under the influence in Miami Beach. January 29, 2012, 10:35 AM ET

November 30, 2012, 6:47 PM ET
SAN FRANCISCO -- San Francisco 49ers defensive lineman Demarcus Dobbs was arrested early Friday morning on suspicion of driving under the influence and possession of marijuana, the California Highway Patrol said.

As Albert McClellan closes in on a starting job on the Ravens' defense, the outside linebacker is in the process of dealing with an accusation of domestic violence. McClellan was arrested on June 30 2012 in his hometown of Lakeland, Fla., and charged with battery (a first-degree misdemeanor), and simple assault with threat or intent to do violence (a second-degree misdemeanor)

Jul 15, 2012 – Broncos defensive end Elvis Dumervil was arrested and charged with aggravated assault with a firearm, a felony, on Saturday night in Miami.

Knowshon Moreno
Running back
2/1/12
Arrested on suspicion of DUI, pulled over for driving 70 mph in 45-mph zone.

Kenny Britt The Tennessee Titans wide receiver was arrested July 20 at Fort Campbell (Ky.) military base and charged with suspicion of DWI.

Robert Quinn The Rams defensive end caught a drunken driving charge stemming from a July 10 arrest

David Diehl The Super Bowl winning offensive lineman was arrested on suspicion of DWI on June 10.

Justin Blackmon The recently drafted WR was arrested on an aggravated DUI charge on June 3 in Oklahoma after authorities said he blew three times the legal limit of alcohol in his system

Brandon Meriweather The new Commanders safety was pulled over for speeding and was arrested on suspicion of DUI on April 26.

Darrius Heyward-Bey A high draft pick by the Raiders a few years ago, the receiver was charged with DUI after an arrest on April 7.

Leroy Hill The Seahawks linebacker was arrested and charged with marijuana posession on Feb. 25.

See, this, to me, is an example of how we fans get tunnel-vision. We follow the Cowboys so closely, that we see things like Ratliff getting arrested and think, "this team is losing control of it's players! No wonder we never win anything!" All the while several players from playoff teams, including the two superbowl teams have players arrested just as much or more. So obviously, either those arrests show the same things about how poorly run those teams are or...wait for it...young men do stupid things no matter who they work for!

In all seriousness, this list was rather eye-opening with regards to how many players for successful teams have recent arrests. The Cowboys are not an unusual case at all.

 

[Sasquatch]

young men do stupid things no matter who they work for!

This, although it's difficult to resist the temptation to blame this on the supposed Mickey Mouse Club House atmosphere at VR -- "come inside it's fun inside."

 

[theebs]

Not cursed by any stretch.

Mismanaged by the jones family.

The answer to every question why concerning this team, is the jones family.

End of story.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Oh yeah, the Greek god of football is really mad at us!

 

[Cowboys22]

No, it is not cursed. It lacks a respected leader and a clear direction and it's been that way since the late 90's. Even Parcells could not overcome the circus that Jerry has created. It will stay this way until Jerry steps away from the football part of the team because a coach cannot lead a team without complete authority over the players. You also cannot keep changing coaches and philosophies every 4-6 years because there's always an adjustment period as you try and acquire the right players for the new system. If you look at the most successful teams over the last 15-20 years, they haven't changed coaches more than once or twice and most of the time, they hire from within or hire someone that keeps their strengths and systems together. Pick a proven philosophy and system, hire a respected coach that believes in them and can teach them, get the right players to run it, and continue with guys from that coaching tree. That to me is how you should run an NFL team. Jerry has done the complete opposite.

 

[cajuncocoa]

The Curse of Doug Flutie

The Curse of Flutie is karmic retribution from the great spiritual beyond for the fact that (Wade) Phillips benched our pint-sized hero passer before the 1999 playoffs when both were with Buffalo, despite the fact that the Bills had gone 10-5 with Flutie at the helm.

The Cold, Hard Football Facts named that move the worst head-coaching decision of the 20th century. And the Curse wasted no time spreading its tangled web of misery and cruel defeat: with Flutie watching from the sidelines, the Bills immediately suffered one of the most memorable and painful defeats in NFL history. They lost to the Titans in a postseason finish so improbable and controversial it's known only as "The Music City Miracle."

Twelve years later, and Buffalo has never returned to the playoffs.

But that was just the start of the Curse of Flutie. It's left a predictable trail of misery, defeat and missed opportunity in its wake from one end of the NFL to the other. Any team that employs Phillips is doomed to suffer.

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20.../11/16/wade.phillips/index.html#ixzz2Io4AOWJ1

 

[TNCowboy]

Not cursed by any stretch.

Mismanaged by the jones family.

The answer to every question why concerning this team, is the jones family.

End of story.

This x1000.

And only a fool would try to dispute it.

 

[Seven]

See, this, to me, is an example of how we fans get tunnel-vision. We follow the Cowboys so closely, that we see things like Ratliff getting arrested and think, "this team is losing control of it's players! No wonder we never win anything!" All the while several players from playoff teams, including the two superbowl teams have players arrested just as much or more. So obviously, either those arrests show the same things about how poorly run those teams are or...wait for it...young men do stupid things no matter who they work for!

In all seriousness, this list was rather eye-opening with regards to how many players for successful teams have recent arrests. The Cowboys are not an unusual case at all.

Has nothing to do with tunnel vision. AGAIN....we could care less about the drama with other teams. Zero to do with the Dallas Cowboys. Aldon Smith could eat baby seals for all I care.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44gY8ID8m9I

13 minute mark Jerry talks about the vow he made for 3rd Super Bowl.

Game, set, match.

The most interesting part about that video is that he talks about how Steinbrenner would have fired him, and how he admired him, he takes blame...yet he still won't hire a GM.

That's just stupid. He knows that he has been messing up.

What is that saying about the definition of insanity...?

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

Cursed? No. Terribly managed? Yes.

Is there a difference between the two? The poor results are the same.