News: It’s Not Over, Cowboys Just Took the Most Difficult Route to ’16 Success

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You forgot 1 point. Red has got to do less clapping and more coaching.

Naw, leadership style has to be believable...and Jason Garrett leads by a genuine interaction. Not a fan's arrogance in thinking that an attitude of biting one's head off and peeing down the nub is a sign of leadership strength. That might work in a scenario where one was greatly outnumbered and under seige.
 

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But Eli was needed to get there too (albeit inspite of him @ times they won 2 SBs). But the QB was in place and he was drafted high.

As soon as a valid point in deference is presented, I'll further respond.
 

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Nothing more than a simple concept non-directed. Stupidity is understood also...as to arguing with a valid reason, Discussion is through.

Foolishness...applied, ignoring safety for the purpose of saving time and convenience. That only increases the danger, not removing it.

Applied to a concept in team management, no less applicable. Good night, John Boy...
 

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"When I Say A Lot Of Things Have To Go Right, I Mean A LOT.
  • Tony Romo must stay healthy.
  • Dez Bryant must stay healthy.
  • Demarcus Lawrence’s back issue must be something that wasn’t important.
  • Tyrone Crawford cannot sustain another injury.
  • The secondary can’t have another preseason injury like Orlando Scandrick’s.
  • They must find a running back that can grind out long drives.
  • They must completely own the time of possession battle.
  • Sean Lee and Rolando McClain must stay healthy and play at a high level."
So you're saying he's condoning cleaning house completely? Sounds like he's saying our formula is flawed and totally dependent on the luck we had in 2014 (injury wise but comparing it to present circumstances)?

Any team wanting to get into and go deep into the playoffs needs to stay healthy esp at certain positions some specific to the club and others non-specific like QB.
 

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Nothing more than a simple concept non-directed. Stupidity is understood also...as to arguing with a valid reason, Discussion is through.

Foolishness...applied, ignoring safety for the purpose of saving time and convenience. That only increases the danger, not removing it.

Applied to a concept in team management, no less applicable. Good night, John Boy...

What are you blathering about about now? No vague quote you ripped off, just you speaking, etc.
 

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Any team wanting to get into and go deep into the playoffs needs to stay healthy esp at certain positions some specific to the club and others non-specific like QB.

That aspect is heavily downplayed on this board when remembering 12-4.;)
 

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Just don't carry enough players or get to keep all your stars to have the depth to defeat enough injuries these days.

We lost Murray after 14', I guess I don't know of the depth you're speaking of?
 

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We lost Murray after 14' and?

And it made no difference. Not a terribly critical position although it can hurt you so not dismissing it either. I've always said as Romo goes so goes the Cowboys. Not profound just the truth for just about any team at any time with some notable exceptions.
 

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And it made no difference. Not a terribly critical position although it can hurt you so not dismissing it either. I've always said as Romo goes so goes the Cowboys. Not profound just the truth for just about any team at any time with some notable exceptions.

Agreed (regarding Romo) and that is why the OP author is showing what else has to happen as well? I guess I didn't read the same article, it's exposing the over reliance on Romo to the point of having no back up plan. I believe a way to prevent that list (long term) is draft a QB in RD 1.
 

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They must find a running back that can grind out long drives.
That wasn't an issue in 2015. McFadden in 2015 was better in short yardage than Murray in 2014. Their yards per rush were basically identical, as was offensive TOP. We couldn't score on a long TD pass to save our lives, but as far as simply "grinding out long drives," we did a decent job of combining short passes with a good running game, and were only in trouble when we had to pass on 3rd down. We managed to avoid that enough that the duration of our average offensive possession ranked 3rd in the league.

We were missing a passing threat beyond 10 yards and around the goal line.
 

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That wasn't an issue in 2015. McFadden in 2015 was better in short yardage than Murray in 2014. Their yards per rush were basically identical, as was offensive TOP. We couldn't score on a long TD pass to save our lives, but as far as simply "grinding out long drives," we did a decent job of combining short passes with a good running game, and were only in trouble when we had to pass on 3rd down. We managed to avoid that enough that the duration of our average offensive possession ranked 3rd in the league.

We were missing a passing threat beyond 10 yards and around the goal line.

The adjustment to the offensive line blocking more like a true power blocking unit might explain the effectiveness on short yardage situations, with McFadden. I still like the zone blocking scheme when paired with a Romo led pass attack.
 

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The adjustment to the offensive line blocking more like a true power blocking unit might explain the effectiveness on short yardage situations, with McFadden. I still like the zone blocking scheme when paired with a Romo led pass attack.
I prefer a Romo-led anything to what we had in 2015, because scoring at the end of those long drives (or scoring quickly instead of those long drives) is the thing that was actually missing from the offense.

When your offense is 3rd in the league in TOP, that tells you that "grinding out long drives" wasn't the problem.
 

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I prefer a Romo-led anything to what we had in 2015, because scoring at the end of those long drives (or scoring quickly instead of those long drives) is the thing that was actually missing from the offense.

When your offense is 3rd in the league in TOP, that tells you that "grinding out long drives" wasn't the problem.

I still like a little flex to the equation of forcing a running ball upfield.

As to your statement, I'll never argue against game day successes!
 

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That wasn't an issue in 2015. McFadden in 2015 was better in short yardage than Murray in 2014. Their yards per rush were basically identical, as was offensive TOP. We couldn't score on a long TD pass to save our lives, but as far as simply "grinding out long drives," we did a decent job of combining short passes with a good running game, and were only in trouble when we had to pass on 3rd down. We managed to avoid that enough that the duration of our average offensive possession ranked 3rd in the league.

We were missing a passing threat beyond 10 yards and around the goal line.

But this also means we have to assume McFadden's production will continue at the same rate from 15' into 16' and not be heavily effected by injuries. Hope a rook is in the mix here.
 
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But this also means we have to assume McFadden's production will continue at the same rate from 15' into 16' and not be heavily effected by injuries. Hope a rook is in the mix here.
Agreed. The only thing that's safe to assume about an oft-injured 9th-year RB is that he won't do it alone.
 

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"When I Say A Lot Of Things Have To Go Right, I Mean A LOT.
  • Tony Romo must stay healthy.
  • Dez Bryant must stay healthy.
  • Demarcus Lawrence’s back issue must be something that wasn’t important.
  • Tyrone Crawford cannot sustain another injury.
  • The secondary can’t have another preseason injury like Orlando Scandrick’s.
  • They must find a running back that can grind out long drives.
  • They must completely own the time of possession battle.
  • Sean Lee and Rolando McClain must stay healthy and play at a high level."
So you're saying he's condoning cleaning house completely? Sounds like he's saying our formula is flawed and totally dependent on the luck we had in 2014 (injury wise but comparing it to present circumstances)?

I think 2014 comes down to 2 things..

neither of which will probably happen again..

First..we had Romo, Murray and Dez have career years all at the same time.

That hasn't happened since '92-'96...to have the QB, RB and WR all just beat the opposition like they did.

Second..we had to have the Kelly-lead Eagles completely collapse. Which they did..they had a 2 game lead with 4 to play and choked.

Now I think all of us know what happened in 2015.

So I certainly do not see those stars aligning in any way now with Murray gone and Kelly.

So now what?

You are not going to recapture things by just getting a RB and plugging him in 25 carries a game and you are not going to replace Dez or Romo.

The team is going to have to re-establish a new identity going forward.

Not chase the old one.

So what is the plan?

Defense is the only logical direction as there is so much tied up in the offense already with the huge Romo and Dez deals and 3 #1's on the OL.

I'm suspecting therefore if you want to know who the draft picks ate going to be..

Look at the starting salary contracts by position on defense and you will see exactly where the team is going to draft.

They are going to fill the voids there and continue with balancing the financial books along with the postions that lack play and money allotments.

That's what I see.

Which means DL, LBer/Safety and CB.

Not in that exact order but those 3 are the targets I'm guessing.

If those get addressed in the first 3 picks..that would be fine with me.

FAgency is another matter entirely.

There are going to be some cuts after the draft and on June 1. Some ours and lots of others.

The real juice for our improvement maybe that phase still to come.

Hard to say.
 
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