It’s Official. Disney Buys Fox

[CF74]

 

[Nightman]

No Fox Channel, FoxNews, FoxBusiness, FoxSports1,Big 10 Network

Yes- FX, Nat Geo and other channels included in Fox TV studios, Fox Movie Studios, Hulu stocks, regional sports networks like YES in NY and Fox in LA

 

[TheCount]

Not great for consumers, but great for superhero movies.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

No Fox Channel, FoxNews, FoxBusiness, FoxSports1,Big 10 Network

Yes- FX, Nat Geo and other channels included in Fox TV studios, Fox Movie Studios, Hulu stocks, regional sports networks like YES in NY and Fox in LA

The no column is all I watch anyway.

 

[Nightman]

Not great for consumers, but great for superhero movies.

Those are so played out

 

[Maverick84]

I know nothing about this.

Can someone explain-it-like-I'm-5 to me on why this is a good thing?

 

[Denim Chicken]

Those are so played out

Box office numbers would disagree.

 

[Stash]

I know nothing about this.

Can someone explain-it-like-I'm-5 to me on why this is a good thing?

One aspect of the deal if you're a fan of the superhero films:

Disney/Marvel gets the rights back to virtually all of their characters now (except Spider-Man) which were owned by Fox. So now they can use all of them.

They also have unrestricted access to all of Star Wars.

And they get all of the Fox properties likes Alien, Avatar, and many, many more.

And then there are multimedia implications all over the world and involving many properties.

 

[Iago33]

Not great for consumers, but great for superhero movies.

I thought this thread was strange. Maybe I'm just not into superhero movies, but this reshapes the entertainment industry and possible methods of delivery and the main discussion is about comic book movies? Maybe it's not safe to talk about the other stuff because it might get into politics, but the superhero stuff is small potatoes compared to the industry implications.

 

[DallasEast]

I thought this thread was strange. Maybe I'm just not into superhero movies, but this reshapes the entertainment industry and possible methods of delivery and the main discussion is about comic book movies? Maybe it's not safe to talk about the other stuff because it might get into politics, but the superhero stuff is small potatoes compared to the industry implications.

I would encourage anyone to discuss all implications of the deal--as long as self-control is used concerning politics, religion, etc. The merger is huge but the small detail involving the creative control consolidation of comic book characters under the company that created them (Marvel) has been discussed in and around the industry for almost two decades. Yes, it is a small thing from someone's perspective on the outside of the old topic looking in but it is an exciting time for anyone intimately familiar with the entertainment implications for Disney.

 

[Stash]

I thought this thread was strange. Maybe I'm just not into superhero movies, but this reshapes the entertainment industry and possible methods of delivery and the main discussion is about comic book movies? Maybe it's not safe to talk about the other stuff because it might get into politics, but the superhero stuff is small potatoes compared to the industry implications.

As someone "just not into superhero movies", I can see why that also the might be "small potatoes" to you.

But if you're interested in talking about the other aspects of the deal, please do. It's one of the biggest of all time and will certainly have far-reaching impact.

 

[Trouty]

Box office numbers would disagree.

Hardly a measuring stick on the quality of medium-large budget films being produced.

No offense to y’all fans of the Comic Book Movies — I watch them with my son, myself — but they are what Hollywood spends real money on these days. As well as remakes.

When people say Hollywood doesn’t make “good films” anymore, I’d disagree. But Hollywood making large budget good movies are almost a unicorn these days. No wants to sit through tightly, beautifully written, dialogue-driven film anymore. It’s all explosions and sunshine and armor, IMO.

Completely agree with Night. It’s played out. Sadly, it’s true that box office sales disagree.

Edit — and when I say “quality,” that sounds awfully rude and condescending. I meant it more in the vein of scope/genre, than a specific category (comic book genre)

 

[Trouty]

I thought this thread was strange. Maybe I'm just not into superhero movies, but this reshapes the entertainment industry and possible methods of delivery and the main discussion is about comic book movies? Maybe it's not safe to talk about the other stuff because it might get into politics, but the superhero stuff is small potatoes compared to the industry implications.

Man. Dead on

 

[Trouty]

As someone "just not into superhero movies", I can see why that also the might be "small potatoes" to you.

But if you're interested in talking about the other aspects of the deal, please do. It's one of the biggest of all time and will certainly have far-reaching impact.

How did Disney handle that kind of mullah? I know they’re huge, hell, I live just a few blocks from their studio/Animation Pixar. I know they own all these channels. Still, that’s a hell of a large amount. Even Warren Buffett “only” shelled out, what, $22 or someodd billion for BNSF.

Is it because it was stock that the deal was made? And how much of that is going to Murdoch? Is he now worth upwards of $50 billion?

 

[Denim Chicken]

Hardly a measuring stick on the quality of medium-large budget films being produced.

I wasn't commenting on the quality of the films, but if they were "played out" people wouldn't go see them. Right now they're pretty much what's keeping Hollywood afloat.

 

[Iago33]

As someone "just not into superhero movies", I can see why that also the might be "small potatoes" to you.

But if you're interested in talking about the other aspects of the deal, please do. It's one of the biggest of all time and will certainly have far-reaching impact.

OK. I'm curious whether they can make Hulu a real competitor of Netflix and what role net neutrality plays. The possibilities for streaming services seem to me a significant issue here. I'm wondering how the sports networks might affect future NFL deals and the expansion of streaming sports options. I think they want to channel a lot more through Hulu, and the timing of today's ruling on net neutrality is fascinating.

 

[Nightman]

I wasn't commenting on the quality of the films, but if they were "played out" people wouldn't go see them. Right now they're pretty much what's keeping Hollywood afloat.

The latest Justice League may cost the studio 100s of millions

Some of it may be Affleck/Weinstein trouble but no one can deny the genre is played out

Superman v Batman sucked.....how many Ironman can there be.....and don't ever make another Spiderman movies please

I would rather watch a Nicolas Sparks movie at this point if it had a story

 

[Stash]

OK. I'm curious whether they can make Hulu a real competitor of Netflix and what role net neutrality plays. The possibilities for streaming services seem to me a significant issue here. I'm wondering how the sports networks might affect future NFL deals and the expansion of streaming sports options. I think they want to channel a lot more through Hulu, and the timing of today's ruling on net neutrality is fascinating.

They're also going to be running their own Disney streaming service as a direct competitor to Netflix. Buy the Fox film library helps a lot with that too.

And I've read that they're going to try to stream a lot of ESPN as well. And I think streaming will be the next step in the evolution of the NFL too. In addition to broadcast rights, I think streaming rights will be a big factor in the near future.

I believe that they now have controlling interest in Hulu, but I'm not sure of their long term plans for that service.

 

[Stash]

The latest Justice League may cost the studio 100s of millions

Some of it may be Affleck/Weinstein trouble but no one can deny the genre is played out

Superman v Batman sucked.....how many Ironman can there be.....and don't ever make another Spiderman movies please

I would rather watch a Nicolas Sparks movie at this point if it had a story

Anybody can deny that the genre is not played out. As has been supported by the actual revenue numbers. Justice League's issues are just that, Justice League's issues.

It's fine if it's not your thing.

 

[Stash]

Hardly a measuring stick on the quality of medium-large budget films being produced.

No offense to y’all fans of the Comic Book Movies — I watch them with my son, myself — but they are what Hollywood spends real money on these days. As well as remakes.

When people say Hollywood doesn’t make “good films” anymore, I’d disagree. But Hollywood making large budget good movies are almost a unicorn these days. No wants to sit through tightly, beautifully written, dialogue-driven film anymore. It’s all explosions and sunshine and armor, IMO.

Completely agree with Night. It’s played out. Sadly, it’s true that box office sales disagree.

Edit — and when I say “quality,” that sounds awfully rude and condescending. I meant it more in the vein of scope/genre, than a specific category (comic book genre)

Different strokes my friend, different strokes.