It’s Time to Stop Underrating Dak Prescott

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Which WR on this roster is flourishing under this QB?
Find one WR on the team who is "flourishing," and you've found your elite QB, correct?

Top 5 in catches and yards. (These are the only two WR)
Larry Fitzgerald
Antonio Brown

How about that Carson Palmer? (9 td 7 int 84.4)
How about that Roethlisberger? (10 td 9 int 82.7)

So you're asking the wrong question.
 

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no one wr is flourishing on this team because there's no need for that. The qb throws to the open man unless Dez starts complaining and then we force the ball to him for a little while.
 

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Find one WR on the team who is "flourishing," and you've found your elite QB, correct?

Top 5 in catches and yards. (These are the only two WR)
Larry Fitzgerald
Antonio Brown

How about that Carson Palmer? (9 td 7 int 84.4)
How about that Roethlisberger? (10 td 9 int 82.7)

So you're asking the wrong question.

Again, you have to make it about other teams because you're desperate and slamming the calculator keys in frustration.

Your homer wrong opinion is that Rayne is a franchise QB. Show me one WR on this team that is playing as well as in the past with this QB now under center.

Don't tell me about Carson Palmer or Joe Flacco or Philip Rivers. I'm talking the Cowboys and this QB. The "franchise" QB. That makes all of his WRs less productive.
 

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Show me one WR on this team that is playing as well as in the past with this QB now under center.

Percy’s right: you’re asking the wrong question. Nevertheless, Beasley had a career year last season with Dak under center. T-Will is on pace this year for his most catches ever. An obviously declining Witten is on pace this year for more TDs than he’s had since 2013.

The ball is being distributed this year such that no one guy is lighting it up across the board (catches, yards and TDs). But as Percy has demonstrated, that’s no knock on Dak. That’s the sign of an efficient, multi-faceted passing attack.

The WRs that are lighting it up this year are catching passes from guys who aren’t running efficient passing attacks (again, as demonstrated by Percy). You need to give up this line of argument. It’s a loser on many fronts.
 

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Find one WR on the team who is "flourishing," and you've found your elite QB, correct?

Top 5 in catches and yards. (These are the only two WR)
Larry Fitzgerald
Antonio Brown

How about that Carson Palmer? (9 td 7 int 84.4)
How about that Roethlisberger? (10 td 9 int 82.7)

So you're asking the wrong question.
Don't waste your time, Percy.

His gig is old. At one time it was amusing but it is now boring and frankly, quite lazy on his part. I used to find him entertaining. Now it's just an annoying bird brain chirping in my ears. But with a little self control, I am able to ignore it. I leave him off ignore in hope he will realize this and go back to his old, entertaining ways.
 

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I'm talking the Cowboys and this QB.
You're talking about one WR's numbers, which (as you know) isn't the same thing as the QB. Also, without the context of the league as a whole, any analysis is worthless. But we can certainly talk about this QB, and how he compares to others.

If you want to judge passing performance (attempts, completions, yards, TD, and INT), that's passer rating. Prescott ranks 8th in the NFL.

Then to throw in things like QB runs, fumbles, and game situation, you can look at expected points added. He's 4th in EPA, which is probably the best metric for dual-threat quarterbacks, because I think ESPN's QBR (Dak's 2nd) overweights rushing. Just my opinion.

Football Outsiders has him 6th in DYAR and 7th in DVOA. His ANY/A puts him at 7th.

We can have our little pissing contest to see who wins, but meanwhile that's what Prescott's done so far this year on the field.
 

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I see. Thanks for the clarification. Bold suggestion. But it may be the elephant in the room. At some point it does become difficult to understand how you don’t get behind a guy that’s had maybe the best 20 game start to his career of any QB ever.

I swear this is what I don't get for the life of me. As a fan of the Dallas Cowboys, first last and foremost, the need for fans to try to tear this guy down or say he isn't good enough is simply mind-blowing. This guy has the physical ability, does what is asked and more, doesn't turn the ball over (HUGE!!!!) and wins. And he does this all in the context of the offense we run.
Top 3 qb in the league easily, arguably no.1 IMO.
 

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Again, you have to make it about other teams because you're desperate and slamming the calculator keys in frustration.

Your homer wrong opinion is that Rayne is a franchise QB. Show me one WR on this team that is playing as well as in the past with this QB now under center.

Don't tell me about Carson Palmer or Joe Flacco or Philip Rivers. I'm talking the Cowboys and this QB. The "franchise" QB. That makes all of his WRs less productive.
How about we look at his numbers over the last 2 seasons. He’s up there with Marino and Warner. THose 2 weren’t franchise qbs? Guess not.
 

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I swear this is what I don't get for the life of me. As a fan of the Dallas Cowboys, first last and foremost, the need for fans to try to tear this guy down or say he isn't good enough is simply mind-blowing. This guy has the physical ability, does what is asked and more, doesn't turn the ball over (HUGE!!!!) and wins. And he does this all in the context of the offense we run.
Top 3 qb in the league easily, arguably no.1 IMO.


well look how they treated Tony all those years. This is no surprise to me at all.
 

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well look how they treated Tony all those years. This is no surprise to me at all.
If you have been around long enough to remember the dandy don days. Literally drove him into the booth.
He went down the same path as Romo except worse
 

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Don't waste your time, Percy.

His gig is old. At one time it was amusing but it is now boring and frankly, quite lazy on his part. I used to find him entertaining. Now it's just an annoying bird brain chirping in my ears. But with a little self control, I am able to ignore it. I leave him off ignore in hope he will realize this and go back to his old, entertaining ways.
Here is what happened with RS. He came up with this lame schtick about Dak and some people thought it was kind of funny and gave him a bunch of "likes". Well, he did it so much, he became addicted to these "likes" he was getting. Now that it has grown old and stale, he is now chasing those "likes" he used to covet so much and now looks foolish. He has not quite figured out yet that the people that were once laughing with him, are now laughing at him.
 

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That was anomaly. Was Elliot NOT on the field for the Denver game or just ineffective? Elliot has had poor rushing efforts before albeit few. Not everyone has Denver's home field or their defense. Int caused by a Dez drop. Some days are an avalanche. I think our Oline has come a long way since then no matter the back. We'll see.

Difference is Denver and other teams says specifically they were stacking the box to stop Zeke and make Dak beat them..
 

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Russell Wilson was top five QB throwing in ‘tight windows’ last year, which I was surprised by. It explains his INTs in bunches, but also explains why he can win games on his arm.
 

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Good God. What anyone will do for the sake of argument. It’s not good discussion. No need to cause riffs among the fan base.

Can’t we all get along? I’m too old and tired for this baloney. Jeesh.

Let’s wish for a wildcard at this point and a divisional round playoff win. Personally, I would be happier than a pig in poop. And then we can all be nice to each other. What a novel idea.
 

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Here is what happened with RS. He came up with this lame schtick about Dak and some people thought it was kind of funny and gave him a bunch of "likes". Well, he did it so much, he became addicted to these "likes" he was getting. Now that it has grown old and stale, he is now chasing those "likes" he used to covet so much and now looks foolish. He has not quite figured out yet that the people that were once laughing with him, are now laughing at him.
No.

I think he’s quite serious at this point. Wentz has the Eagles flying high.

He is Cowboys fan just like rest of us that wants a franchise QB to lead us to the promised land. We might have one, we might not. It’s year two for these guys. One of them is going to win SB’s. It could be both. I have no doubt about that.

I’m sure he’ll eat crow like a lot of us if it’s Dak that gets it done.
 

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It’s Time to Stop Underrating Dak Prescott
The Dallas quarterback has quietly been one of the most productive passers in the NFL, and now he’ll face his greatest challenge yet: guiding the Cowboys to the playoffs without Ezekiel Elliott


BY DANNY KELLY NOV 10, 2017, 8:30AM EST TWEET

We’re not talking about Dak Prescott enough.

Eagles signal-caller Carson Wentz has deservedly stolen some attention in the NFC East, throwing 23 touchdowns and just five picks to lead Philly to an 8-1 record. Deshaun Watson’s white-hot start, in which he threw 19 scores in seven games to revive a flat-lining Houston offense, served as a Texas-sized distraction, too. Add in the seemingly never-ending series of holds and reinstatements of Ezekiel Elliott’s suspension, Jerry Jones’s apparent plan to block Roger Goodell’s extension, and the fact that the Cowboys just haven’t been quite as dominant as they were last year, and Prescott’s incredible play this season has flown under the radar.

Some had wondered whether a second-year regression for last year’s AP Offensive Rookie of the Year—the so-called sophomore slump—was coming. As teams spent the offseason game-planning to take away Prescott’s biggest strengths—his legs, his best throws, and his favorite plays—it was fair to wonder whether he’d struggle to live up to what was probably the best performance we’ve ever seen from a rookie quarterback. But that decline quietly never came; Prescott has adapted to the new looks teams have thrown at him and has proved he’s here to stay as one of the league’s young superstars at the position. He’s second in the NFL in Total QBR; he’s completed 62.9 percent of his passes for 1,818 yards and 16 touchdowns (tied with Tom Brady for fifth in the NFL) and just four picks at 7.0 yards per attempt. And he’s guided Dallas through its slow start to a 5-3 record at the midway point.


But now, with Elliott set to serve at least the first four games of his six-game suspension, Prescott will face his biggest challenge yet: Running the Cowboys’ offense without the help of the team’s All-Pro back. One of the knocks on Prescott—and one of the reasons, perhaps, that he’s still so underrated—is that he fell into an ideal situation in Dallas, with a dominant ground game to lean on and one of the best offensive lines in the league to protect him. He’s rarely asked to throw the ball all over the gridiron 45 or 50 times a game like some quarterbacks—his total pass attempts and total passing yardage this year rank right in the middle of the pack, league-wide—and he’s relied on Elliott to do a lot of heavy lifting. But while the team will surely miss Elliott’s big-play ability during his suspension, Prescott is capable of carrying this offense.


https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2017/11/10/16631464/dak-prescott-underrated-sophomore-year

Totally agree!!!

What is so mind boggling for me is the “he landed in an ideal spot” crowd...particularly on this very board!?! I mean our own history as a franchise has been littered with many QBs landing in perfect spots!?!

So let’s see...his first year as a starter he had great oline filled with all-pros and pro-bowlers, nice stable of running backs and a top 3 rushing attack (led by a ROY starting RB), solid collection of TEs and receivers, won 10 or so games in a row and only had 4 picks his first year as a starter, and was an deadly efficient passer who could hurt u with his legs.

Talking about Dak? Nope. Talking about Roger the Dodger. Only major difference being that Roger had a league best defense (Doomsday) who was one of the game’s all-time great units. So if anyone wants to be critical of Dak because “he has help” then we should discount the entire HOF career of Roger Staubach cuz he had even more help!?!

Roger is my all-time favorite player period (not just Cowboys) and Dak may never equal him in terms of playing stature in my eyes, but this whole BS agenda to diminish him because of his so-called help...that’s just asinine, disingenuous and insanely ignorant.

From everything I’ve seen from him thus far, he could be our next Roger...he certainly displays similar leadership traits.
 

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Let’s wish for a wildcard at this point and a divisional round playoff win. Personally, I would be happier than a pig in poop. And then we can all be nice to each other. What a novel idea.

Ummm, what makes you think that a wildcard berth and a divisional round win would make everyone be nice to each other?
 
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