It is ok to like Dak and Tony

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We dont rip on dak to defend Romo. We're upset that our franchise qb withered away under a regime that didn't give him enough to win.

Then we see dak unable to make simple passes and we get disgruntled..i mean we all want dak to be our future; nobody wants uncertainty. But it's hard to stay calm and collect when you see the so called future play like crap.
 

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Most of the people that get ripped on as "Romo Lovers" have much milder criticism of Dak than Dak does of himself. This is what Prescott said himself after the game:

“I missed some throws in the second half that I didn’t miss in the first half or that I can’t miss, simply,” he said. “I just have to be more accurate, especially two-minute drives.”
 

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We dont rip on dak to defend Romo. We're upset that our franchise qb withered away under a regime that didn't give him enough to win.

Then we see dak unable to make simple passes and we get disgruntled..i mean we all want dak to be our future; nobody wants uncertainty. But it's hard to stay calm and collect when you see the so called future play like crap.
A QB rating in the 90's and a TD-to-INT ratio of 3-to-1 constitutes playing like crap? The team losing the game means he therefore played like crap?

Realistically: The 55% completion rate is the closest his day came to being bad. Although even that isn't too disastrous if that's his floor. QBs who actually play like crap, would kill for 55% days to represent their floor.

Stats don't mean everything. But they do mean something. And, while it's fair to say that this kind of game is what passes for an off-day for Dak (he's had passer ratings in the hundreds in 13 of 20 starts, so I guess you can fairly claim a passer rating in the 90's passes for an an off-day for him), it's not nothing either.

It seems unreasonable to go so far as to say it's crap.

I think a reasonable person would only claim he's played like crap in two games so far in his career. Off the top of my head, I can only think of Week 13 of 2016 and Week 2 of 2017 as examples of days where the wheels actually came off. Those are the only legitimately horrible games he's had, unless I'm forgetting any others. He's had a couple other lukewarm clunkers that were more akin to him being a workaday busdriver type. But he's only driven into the ditch and crashed the bus a couple times that I can think of. And that's not what I saw happen yesterday.
 

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A QB rating in the 90's and a TD-to-INT ratio of 3-to-1 constitutes playing like crap? The team losing the game means he therefore played like crap?

Realistically: The 55% completion rate is the closest his day came to being bad. Although even that isn't too disastrous if that's his floor. QBs who actually play like crap, would kill for 55% days to represent their floor.

Stats don't mean everything. But they do mean something. And, while it's fair to say that this kind of game is what passes for an off-day for Dak (he's had passer ratings in the hundreds in 13 of 20 starts, so I guess you can fairly claim a passer rating in the 90's passes for an an off-day for him), it's not nothing either.

It seems unreasonable to go so far as to say it's crap.

I think a reasonable person would only claim he's played like crap in two games so far in his career. Off the top of my head, I can only think of Week 13 of 2016 and Week 2 of 2017 as examples of days where the wheels actually came off. Those are the only legitimately horrible games he's had, unless I'm forgetting any others. He's had a couple other lukewarm clunkers that were more akin to him being a workaday busdriver type. But he's only driven into the ditch and crashed the bus a couple times that I can think of. And that's not what I saw happen yesterday.
We cut Weeden who was completing 72% of his passes and had a QB rating of 92. So that's not a defense. Dak is missing basic throws by a lot because his mechanics are not solid. Teams are going to make him throw outside until he starts beating teams doing that. Zeke, Witten, and Beasley are going to have a tough time until he does.

I loved Romo. He was our best chance to win a super bowl last year but it was decided to move on with Dak having a record breaking rookie year. I can live with the decision and Romo is 37 now so it's not hard to argue it was the right one. We probably go nowhere with our defense last year anyway.

Dak has problems, but we scored 30 points. At some point fans will have to start recognizing that 30 points should almost always win and that our real problem lies with the defense, as it did for most of Romo's career.
 

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I was a huge Tony Romo fan and now I'm a huge Dak Prescott fan.

Both are excellent quarterbacks with their own unique styles; but both are tremendous leaders with the character and charisma to lead the highest profile team in professional sports.

Instead of bashing Romo and Prescott endlessly, some Cowboys fans should look elsewhere around the league and realize how lucky we've been. Dak has plenty of time to get what constantly eluded Romo- a ring.
 

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I was a huge Tony Romo fan and now I'm a huge Dak Prescott fan.

Both are excellent quarterbacks with their own unique styles; but both are tremendous leaders with the character and charisma to lead the highest profile team in professional sports.

Instead of bashing Romo and Prescott endlessly, some Cowboys fans should look elsewhere around the league and realize how lucky we've been. Dak has plenty of time to get what constantly eluded Romo- a ring.
Well said. This is exactly how I feel.
 

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We cut Weeden who was completing 72% of his passes and had a QB rating of 92. So that's not a defense. Dak is missing basic throws by a lot because his mechanics are not solid. Teams are going to make him throw outside until he starts beating teams doing that. Zeke, Witten, and Beasley are going to have a tough time until he does.

I loved Romo. He was our best chance to win a super bowl last year but it was decided to move on with Dak having a record breaking rookie year. I can live with the decision and Romo is 37 now so it's not hard to argue it was the right one. We probably go nowhere with our defense last year anyway.

Dak has problems, but we scored 30 points. At some point fans will have to start recognizing that 30 points should almost always win and that our real problem lies with the defense, as it did for most of Romo's career.


Great point on the D. 30 puts should win you the game
 

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Why does it seem some upset re Romo being gone take it out on Dak. It isn't Dak's fault Romo's body gave out and he took advatage.

There was no bigger Romo guy than me but he is gone.

Ripping on Dak to defend Romo is an exercise in futility.
I love Tony.

He was great doing color commentary yesterday.

He adds alot.

Going to be exciting to see him and Troy announce.

Wish Tony would replace Buck.

I would be a big CBS fan.

Troy and Tony calling a game..

Together.

Hmmmmm
 

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neither are play by play guys but damn I watched the game yesterday, Tony knows exactly what is going to happen before it does, way better than Simms
 

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We dont rip on dak to defend Romo. We're upset that our franchise qb withered away under a regime that didn't give him enough to win.

Then we see dak unable to make simple passes and we get disgruntled..i mean we all want dak to be our future; nobody wants uncertainty. But it's hard to stay calm and collect when you see the so called future play like crap.
It's really not hard to stay calm...
Really. It is hard when we attach our egos and emotions very strongly to something that doesn't even know who we are though...
 

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We have not seen 55% completion in I don't remember when. That # will never cut it.
To be fair, Romo has had some duds like Dak had yesterday.

This board keeps comparing Dak to 2014 Romo which isnt fair to Dak. Tony had one of the best seasons of all time at the QB position that season. Romo had 3 games in 2013 where he completed less than 60% of his passes, like Dak did yesterday. He had a game when they lost 49-17, just like Dak vs Denver. He had a game he didnt even score in the second half at all (something Dak hasnt done).

With that said, he needs to fix his accuracy and take more chances. Cant win with this defense if he doesnt. All those ints we hated with romo were due to that same scenario
 

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Dak has flaws in his mechanics and he definitely needs to get better, no doubt. I think he will. 9TDs to 3turnovers is still pretty good.
Packers are less talented on defense than the Giants, Broncos and Cardinals, and probably worse than the Rams. I think it'll get better from here. Let's see how our own defense does when we get several of these guys back.
Defense wins championships, and good defenses cause good QBs some problems.
We've seen that with Dak. We've seen that with better QBs than him, too against good defenses. Brady vs the Chiefs anyone?
 

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I’m not a fan of going down the road of “what could have been”. Romo had opportunities in his career. Those 2007 and 2014 teams were pretty good IMO.

It’s ok to admit that Dak has been exposed somewhat. Because his supporting cast isn’t having the kind of year they did last year, we are now seeing some of Dak's weaknesses. Some will argue that Dak is young and that he has the character and leadership traits to get better. I have no problem with that argument but he still has to do it. Until he does it’s fair to call out the accuracy problems, etc.
 

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To be fair, Romo has had some duds like Dak had yesterday.

This board keeps comparing Dak to 2014 Romo which isnt fair to Dak. Tony had one of the best seasons of all time at the QB position that season. Romo had 3 games in 2013 where he completed less than 60% of his passes, like Dak did yesterday. He had a game when they lost 49-17, just like Dak vs Denver. He had a game he didnt even score in the second half at all (something Dak hasnt done).

With that said, he needs to fix his accuracy and take more chances. Cant win with this defense if he doesnt. All those ints we hated with romo were due to that same scenario

To fairly compare Dak and Tony, we need to look at some games in 2006 and 2007, early in Romo's career.

For example, in his second year as a starter, Romo had a 5 interception game at Buffalo. And in December, he went 13 of 36 in a game against the Eagles.

Yet Dak goes 20/36 (including a couple clock killing spikes), throws 3 TD's to one pick, and people are ready to move on from him. Amazing.
 
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