It is ok to like Dak and Tony

[Ultra Warrior]

Ripping on Dak to defend Romo is an exercise in futility.

The same can be said the other way around.

 

[SSoup]

We cut Weeden who was completing 72% of his passes and had a QB rating of 92. So that's not a defense.

Weeden kind of makes my point. We nitpicked, wrote off any positives, rushed to say he was the problem, and replaced him. And? We got appreciably worse from his replacements. Cassel gave a passer rating of 70 and a TD-to-INT ratio of 5-to-7. Moore gave a passer rating of 71 and threw 6 INTs against only 4 TDs.

Hot, hot garbage. Both of them. Weeden wasn't as bad as them. We outsmarted ourselves that year. (Or we helped ourselves by tanking and winning a higher draft pick. Depends on how much a cynic you are, I guess.)

That's the danger in scapegoating the QB when there's no viable alternative. The mindset that says any sub-100 passer rating from Dak is crap is the mindset that thinks we're gonna dial 1-800 and just magically get a better QB. Rotating doors don't work at the QB position. You know who walks in through rotating doors? Clint Stoerner, that's who. Or literally any Cleveland Browns QB.

Still. You're right that 30 points should be enough to win, so the defense is the bigger culprit.

Though, to be fair, the defense did get jobbed by a turnover caused by cutesy aggressiveness by another unit (Switzer).

If I'm being honest, I'm more bothered by the playcalling/approach on offense, as it pertains to chewing up clock and helping the defense stay on the sideline as long as possible. Yes, the defense is worse than it needs to be (on a talent level) because we've spent so long devoting so many of our biggest resources to the offense. And I'm not nuts about that lopsided approach. So I hope in the offseason they'll take improving the defense seriously. But... there's nothing to do about it now except coach them up as best as possible and put them in the best position to succeed (which means the offense running more and chewing more clock -- making the most of all those 1st round o-linemen and RB we picked instead of sorely-needed defenders).

Now that we've had a full offseason to cater to Dak and we're getting more and more comfortable with him running the offense, giving him more freedom to take ownership of the offense, I feel like I can already feel us getting more cutesy. Maybe it's all in my head, I dunno. Reminds me of the Romo era when we were obsessed with crafting a "Romo-friendly" offense, which usually just meant pass-happy gameplans and hurry-up for the sake of hurry-up, all in the name of attacking and playing to the QB's strengths. Watching us run the hurry-up on the first drive? Watching Dak opt for a pass play instead of a handoff at the line of scrimmage? That all feels familiar to me.

I'd rather just run more and chew more clock. Yes, Dak is good. When we win, he's a big part of the reason why. But the version of our team that is hardest to beat isn't the pass-happy, finesse version.

I hope the team rediscovers that. If not, it'll be another wasted year.

When we called 40+ passing plays in week 1, despite it being a low-scoring, relatively comfortable cruise-control win, it definitely reminded me of lots of games littered throughout the wasted Romo years. We won, but we won in a way that made me wonder if our team gets it. But that doesn't have to mean anything. History doesn't have a way of repeating itself, or anything like that. Right? Right, guys?

 

[diefree666]

Weeden kind of makes my point. We nitpicked, wrote off any positives, rushed to say he was the problem, and replaced him. And? We got appreciably worse from his replacements. Cassel gave a passer rating of 70 and a TD-to-INT ratio of 5-to-7. Moore gave a passer rating of 71 and threw 6 INTs against only 4 TDs.

Hot, hot garbage. Both of them. Weeden wasn't as bad as them. We outsmarted ourselves that year. (Or we helped ourselves by tanking and winning a higher draft pick. Depends on how much a cynic you are, I guess.)

That's the danger in scapegoating the QB when there's no viable alternative. The mindset that says any sub-100 passer rating from Dak is crap is the mindset that thinks we're gonna dial 1-800 and just magically get a better QB. Rotating doors don't work at the QB position. You know who walks in through rotating doors? Clint Stoerner, that's who. Or literally any Cleveland Browns QB.

Still. You're right that 30 points should be enough to win, so the defense is the bigger culprit.

Though, to be fair, the defense did get jobbed by a turnover caused by cutesy aggressiveness by another unit (Switzer).

If I'm being honest, I'm more bothered by the playcalling/approach on offense, as it pertains to chewing up clock and helping the defense stay on the sideline as long as possible. Yes, the defense is worse than it needs to be (on a talent level) because we've spent so long devoting so many of our biggest resources to the offense. And I'm not nuts about that lopsided approach. So I hope in the offseason they'll take improving the defense seriously. But... there's nothing to do about it now except coach them up as best as possible and put them in the best position to succeed (which means the offense running more and chewing more clock -- making the most of all those 1st round o-linemen and RB we picked instead of sorely-needed defenders).

Now that we've had a full offseason to cater to Dak and we're getting more and more comfortable with him running the offense, giving him more freedom to take ownership of the offense, I feel like I can already feel us getting more cutesy. Maybe it's all in my head, I dunno. Reminds me of the Romo era when we were obsessed with crafting a "Romo-friendly" offense, which usually just meant pass-happy gameplans and hurry-up for the sake of hurry-up, all in the name of attacking and playing to the QB's strengths. Watching us run the hurry-up on the first drive? Watching Dak opt for a pass play instead of a handoff at the line of scrimmage? That all feels familiar to me.

I'd rather just run more and chew more clock. Yes, Dak is good. When we win, he's a big part of the reason why. But the version of our team that is hardest to beat isn't the pass-happy, finesse version.

I hope the team rediscovers that. If not, it'll be another wasted year.

When we called 40+ passing plays in week 1, despite it being a low-scoring, relatively comfortable cruise-control win, it definitely reminded me of lots of games littered throughout the wasted Romo years. We won, but we won in a way that made me wonder if our team gets it. But that doesn't have to mean anything. History doesn't have a way of repeating itself, or anything like that. Right? Right, guys?

THOSE THAT FORGET HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT.

read that on a bubblegum card once

 

[Corso]

To fairly compare Dak and Tony, we need to look at some games in 2006 and 2007, early in Romo's career.

For example, in his second year as a starter, Romo had a 5 interception game at Buffalo. And in December, he went 13 of 36 in a game against the Eagles.

Yet Dak goes 20/36 (including a couple clock killing spikes), throws 3 TD's to one pick, and people are ready to move on from him. Amazing.

Cogent.

 

[conner01]

Most of the people that get ripped on as "Romo Lovers" have much milder criticism of Dak than Dak does of himself. This is what Prescott said himself after the game:

“I missed some throws in the second half that I didn’t miss in the first half or that I can’t miss, simply,” he said. “I just have to be more accurate, especially two-minute drives.”

That's one thing I love about the kid. He always wants to get better and to be honest he played pretty well. He missed some throws but he made some plays most QB's can't. All in all he played pretty well

 

[plymkr]

Why does it seem some upset re Romo being gone take it out on Dak. It isn't Dak's fault Romo's body gave out and he took advatage.

There was no bigger Romo guy than me but he is gone.

Ripping on Dak to defend Romo is an exercise in futility.

I feel the same way. You can love Dan and Romo at the same time. I'm a huge Romo fan as well but Dak is our guy now and he's going to get the job done.

Dak is going to be the next great QB for a long time.

 

[Sarek]

"It is ok to like Dak and Tony"

What about liking Dak and not caring or worrying about Tony?

Tony is done as far as playing football goes. If your a Romo fan you should just hope he keeps getting better at his current job, maybe sneak some golf wins in there. Maybe some commercials/movies. Tony's wife doesn't want him on the field playing NFL football and Tony's back is done. Lucky he made it as long as he did, some people lose their low back at 20/25 now.

People keep getting stronger and faster at a younger age. It's why the NFL has so many baby penalties now. Their trying to slow it down and safe it up.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

"It is ok to like Dak and Tony"

What about liking Dak and not caring or worrying about Tony?

Tony is done as far as playing football goes. If your a Romo fan you should just hope he keeps getting better at his current job, maybe sneak some golf wins in there. Maybe some commercials/movies. Tony's wife doesn't want him on the field playing NFL football and Tony's back is done. Lucky he made it as long as he did, some people lose their low back at 20/25 now.

People keep getting stronger and faster at a younger age. It's why the NFL has so many baby penalties now. Their trying to slow it down and safe it up.

true, I could almost see him grimacing when Carr took the knee in the back. Romo was probably thinking, damn I am glad I am in the booth

 

[pansophy]

Weeden kind of makes my point. We nitpicked, wrote off any positives, rushed to say he was the problem, and replaced him. And? We got appreciably worse from his replacements. Cassel gave a passer rating of 70 and a TD-to-INT ratio of 5-to-7. Moore gave a passer rating of 71 and threw 6 INTs against only 4 TDs.

Hot, hot garbage. Both of them. Weeden wasn't as bad as them. We outsmarted ourselves that year. (Or we helped ourselves by tanking and winning a higher draft pick. Depends on how much a cynic you are, I guess.)

That's the danger in scapegoating the QB when there's no viable alternative. The mindset that says any sub-100 passer rating from Dak is crap is the mindset that thinks we're gonna dial 1-800 and just magically get a better QB. Rotating doors don't work at the QB position. You know who walks in through rotating doors? Clint Stoerner, that's who. Or literally any Cleveland Browns QB.

Still. You're right that 30 points should be enough to win, so the defense is the bigger culprit.

Though, to be fair, the defense did get jobbed by a turnover caused by cutesy aggressiveness by another unit (Switzer).

If I'm being honest, I'm more bothered by the playcalling/approach on offense, as it pertains to chewing up clock and helping the defense stay on the sideline as long as possible. Yes, the defense is worse than it needs to be (on a talent level) because we've spent so long devoting so many of our biggest resources to the offense. And I'm not nuts about that lopsided approach. So I hope in the offseason they'll take improving the defense seriously. But... there's nothing to do about it now except coach them up as best as possible and put them in the best position to succeed (which means the offense running more and chewing more clock -- making the most of all those 1st round o-linemen and RB we picked instead of sorely-needed defenders).

Now that we've had a full offseason to cater to Dak and we're getting more and more comfortable with him running the offense, giving him more freedom to take ownership of the offense, I feel like I can already feel us getting more cutesy. Maybe it's all in my head, I dunno. Reminds me of the Romo era when we were obsessed with crafting a "Romo-friendly" offense, which usually just meant pass-happy gameplans and hurry-up for the sake of hurry-up, all in the name of attacking and playing to the QB's strengths. Watching us run the hurry-up on the first drive? Watching Dak opt for a pass play instead of a handoff at the line of scrimmage? That all feels familiar to me.

I'd rather just run more and chew more clock. Yes, Dak is good. When we win, he's a big part of the reason why. But the version of our team that is hardest to beat isn't the pass-happy, finesse version.

I hope the team rediscovers that. If not, it'll be another wasted year.

When we called 40+ passing plays in week 1, despite it being a low-scoring, relatively comfortable cruise-control win, it definitely reminded me of lots of games littered throughout the wasted Romo years. We won, but we won in a way that made me wonder if our team gets it. But that doesn't have to mean anything. History doesn't have a way of repeating itself, or anything like that. Right? Right, guys?

I think we have wanted to address to DL in the 1st round for a couple of years and it just hasn't fallen that way. We have been lucky to get Martin and Fredricks from that at least.

I mean we have Jaylon and a whole new secondary. It's going to take time.

 

[Kaiser]

That's one thing I love about the kid. He always wants to get better and to be honest he played pretty well. He missed some throws but he made some plays most QB's can't. All in all he played pretty well

Another thing that I love about Dak is that he is built like a LB. A lot of QBs will get an arm swipe from a DL and lose their balance or move out of the pocket. When it happens to Prescott he doesn't even blink. Its one of those small effortless things about the guy that everyone takes for granted.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

We dont rip on dak to defend Romo. We're upset that our franchise qb withered away under a regime that didn't give him enough to win.

Then we see dak unable to make simple passes and we get disgruntled..i mean we all want dak to be our future; nobody wants uncertainty. But it's hard to stay calm and collect when you see the so called future play like crap.

What like Romo did throughout his career? Were you never disappointed after a game Romo QB'd? Please... get serious man. To be fair Romo's meltdown games are plentiful.

 

[jaybird]

Why does it seem some upset re Romo being gone take it out on Dak. It isn't Dak's fault Romo's body gave out and he took advatage.

There was no bigger Romo guy than me but he is gone.

Ripping on Dak to defend Romo is an exercise in futility.

I miss Romo and love Dak
Something wrong with that ?

 

[River82]

Jones needs to get Romo back as coach. Dak, while maybe not exceptional (yet) is good enough, but the coaching staff ...

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I miss Romo and love Dak
Something wrong with that ?

no, it was directed at those "fans" who think they are defending Romo by tearing Dak apart.

 

[Fletch]

A QB rating in the 90's and a TD-to-INT ratio of 3-to-1 constitutes playing like crap? The team losing the game means he therefore played like crap?

Realistically: The 55% completion rate is the closest his day came to being bad. Although even that isn't too disastrous if that's his floor. QBs who actually play like crap, would kill for 55% days to represent their floor.

Stats don't mean everything. But they do mean something. And, while it's fair to say that this kind of game is what passes for an off-day for Dak (he's had passer ratings in the hundreds in 13 of 20 starts, so I guess you can fairly claim a passer rating in the 90's passes for an an off-day for him), it's not nothing either.

It seems unreasonable to go so far as to say it's crap.

I think a reasonable person would only claim he's played like crap in two games so far in his career. Off the top of my head, I can only think of Week 13 of 2016 and Week 2 of 2017 as examples of days where the wheels actually came off. Those are the only legitimately horrible games he's had, unless I'm forgetting any others. He's had a couple other lukewarm clunkers that were more akin to him being a workaday busdriver type. But he's only driven into the ditch and crashed the bus a couple times that I can think of. And that's not what I saw happen yesterday.

Owned!

 

[conner01]

Another thing that I love about Dak is that he is built like a LB. A lot of QBs will get an arm swipe from a DL and lose their balance or move out of the pocket. When it happens to Prescott he doesn't even blink. Its one of those small effortless things about the guy that everyone takes for granted.

He is not real fast but runs with some power too
And is agile
That build will pay off when he gets 30 something