It isn't your money

[Jumbo075]

NFL teams (and other leagues) have proven over and over again they can manipulate the salary CAP in multiple ways to build the teams with the players they want. So any excuse that involves insufficient funds is just an excuse. Having said that, every team makes different strategic choices when it comes to managing the salary CAP.

As for player salaries, even the lowest paid players make salaries that are mere fantasies to 99.9% of fans. So, I’ve never understood why fans take sides when it comes to disputes between millionaires and billionaires. I’ve worked for 36 years as an engineer, and haven’t made as much as Dak Prescott will make in 2 games. I’ve supported my family, sent 3 children to college, and am paying for a 2nd wedding this year. And it’s been enough.

Bottom line: it’s not my money. It isn’t your money either. Arguing over salary CAP dollars and player salaries is really among the most useless things a fan can do. We cannot relate to wealth at that level.

Does CeeDee, or Dak, or Micah “deserve” the money they’ll get? Is it fair that they make so much more these days than players like Larry Allen or Emmitt Smith made back in the day. WHO CARES? It’s not my money.

And it isn’t yours either. Pretending it matters to fans is just another psychological fantasy to engage fans. I won’t be sucked into those arguments anymore. I prefer to discuss football, not finances.

 

[Coogiguy03]

Not our money, but our money pays their bills, and allows them to miss camp to make a point!

 

[jazzcat22]

Not our money, but our money pays their bills, and allows them to miss camp to make a point!

They get a lot from TV revenue contracts as well and sponsored companies.
And yes from fans buying merchandise. So I wonder what the percentages are compared to the other contracts.

 

[FanofJerry]

Its based on league revenue.

They chose to pursue a harder job than you. Most...lucky to have have God Given measurements. But they still pursued it.

You pursued a less lucrative job. Maybe because of God Given measurements.

Lastly...its not about sports anymore...its about math. You should ask yourself why? Why are all sports message boards over run with talking about math and business?

Because this isnt real. Its about winding up your mind. Its an illusion to make your mind spin. Your mind spinning/working is profit for the Creator. The Creator is not about good or bad...its about profit. Good and Bad are tools to reach an end goal. Means to an end.

The league could make this way more less complicated...but it doesnt want to. Why? All team owners collude to find a Commissioner...why cant they all collude to fix the QB Market situation by all agreeing to not pay a QB more than x amount? Or install something along the lines of Bird Rights that the NBA has? Why?

 

[acr731]

Not our money? Really? Without fans and the outrageous ticket, parking, and concession prices WE pay, greedy fools like Dak, Micah, and CeeDee aren't having conversations about setting all time high markets at their positions. No, it isn't fair that those three stand to make so much more than past players. The issue some of us fans have is that these greedy players want to get paid without earning it. They demand top dollar just for showing up, and then they thank the fans by giving up in playoff games.

Those names from the past you mentioned had the passion and desire to win. The current group doesn't give a damn about anything but their bank account balances.

 

[Loso86]

NFL teams (and other leagues) have proven over and over again they can manipulate the salary CAP in multiple ways to build the teams with the players they want. So any excuse that involves insufficient funds is just an excuse. Having said that, every team makes different strategic choices when it comes to managing the salary CAP.

As for player salaries, even the lowest paid players make salaries that are mere fantasies to 99.9% of fans. So, I’ve never understood why fans take sides when it comes to disputes between millionaires and billionaires. I’ve worked for 36 years as an engineer, and haven’t made as much as Dak Prescott will make in 2 games. I’ve supported my family, sent 3 children to college, and am paying for a 2nd wedding this year. And it’s been enough.

Bottom line: it’s not my money. It isn’t your money either. Arguing over salary CAP dollars and player salaries is really among the most useless things a fan can do. We cannot relate to wealth at that level.

Does CeeDee, or Dak, or Micah “deserve” the money they’ll get? Is it fair that they make so much more these days than players like Larry Allen or Emmitt Smith made back in the day. WHO CARES? It’s not my money.

And it isn’t yours either. Pretending it matters to fans is just another psychological fantasy to engage fans. I won’t be sucked into those arguments anymore. I prefer to discuss football, not finances.

Thank you

 

[atlantacowboy]

NFL teams (and other leagues) have proven over and over again they can manipulate the salary CAP in multiple ways to build the teams with the players they want. So any excuse that involves insufficient funds is just an excuse. Having said that, every team makes different strategic choices when it comes to managing the salary CAP.

As for player salaries, even the lowest paid players make salaries that are mere fantasies to 99.9% of fans. So, I’ve never understood why fans take sides when it comes to disputes between millionaires and billionaires. I’ve worked for 36 years as an engineer, and haven’t made as much as Dak Prescott will make in 2 games. I’ve supported my family, sent 3 children to college, and am paying for a 2nd wedding this year. And it’s been enough.

Bottom line: it’s not my money. It isn’t your money either. Arguing over salary CAP dollars and player salaries is really among the most useless things a fan can do. We cannot relate to wealth at that level.

Does CeeDee, or Dak, or Micah “deserve” the money they’ll get? Is it fair that they make so much more these days than players like Larry Allen or Emmitt Smith made back in the day. WHO CARES? It’s not my money.

And it isn’t yours either. Pretending it matters to fans is just another psychological fantasy to engage fans. I won’t be sucked into those arguments anymore. I prefer to discuss football, not finances.

You miss the point of cap arguments. Its not a jealousy thing. Nobody cares if CD makes 50M or 5M. As you said, it is not our money. It makes no difference to fans. The cap arguments are about how can we use the cap money available in way that builds a better team. Is making Dak and CD the highest paid players at their positions a smart use of cap dollars? Who is sacrificed to make those contracts work? Can we improve the team making those contracts b/c this isn't KC or SF where we just need to hold a nucleus of players together who have proven they can get to the big game. We aren't even close. So, we need to have these salary cap discussions bc the contracts affect the ability of the team to improve.

 

[StarLord]

OUR team is constructed with their money. And sorry but the cap is real and helps keep parity in the league. It does have consequences. See the Eagles losing 6-7 defensive starters last year (they didn't repeat as NFC east winners).

So, yeah I want them to spend their money as intelligently and as savvy as possible for the betterment of OUR collective team.

 

[Coogiguy03]

They get a lot from TV revenue contracts as well and sponsored companies.
And yes from fans buying merchandise. So I wonder what the percentages are compared to the other contracts.

Right

 

[Coogiguy03]

Not our money? Really? Without fans and the outrageous ticket, parking, and concession prices WE pay, greedy fools like Dak, Micah, and CeeDee aren't having conversations about setting all time high markets at their positions. No, it isn't fair that those three stand to make so much more than past players. The issue some of us fans have is that these greedy players want to get paid without earning it. They demand top dollar just for showing up, and then they thank the fans by giving up in playoff games.

Those names from the past you mentioned had the passion and desire to win. The current group doesn't give a damn about anything but their bank account balances.

As I take a deep breath!!! Post of the night!!!!!!

 

[JoeKing]

NFL teams (and other leagues) have proven over and over again they can manipulate the salary CAP in multiple ways to build the teams with the players they want. So any excuse that involves insufficient funds is just an excuse. Having said that, every team makes different strategic choices when it comes to managing the salary CAP.

As for player salaries, even the lowest paid players make salaries that are mere fantasies to 99.9% of fans. So, I’ve never understood why fans take sides when it comes to disputes between millionaires and billionaires. I’ve worked for 36 years as an engineer, and haven’t made as much as Dak Prescott will make in 2 games. I’ve supported my family, sent 3 children to college, and am paying for a 2nd wedding this year. And it’s been enough.

Bottom line: it’s not my money. It isn’t your money either. Arguing over salary CAP dollars and player salaries is really among the most useless things a fan can do. We cannot relate to wealth at that level.

Does CeeDee, or Dak, or Micah “deserve” the money they’ll get? Is it fair that they make so much more these days than players like Larry Allen or Emmitt Smith made back in the day. WHO CARES? It’s not my money.

And it isn’t yours either. Pretending it matters to fans is just another psychological fantasy to engage fans. I won’t be sucked into those arguments anymore. I prefer to discuss football, not finances.

There is truth in what you are saying but you don't seem to understand the whole truth. Yes, salary caps can be manipulated but every trick used has a consequence, as well as a benefit. You're not taking into account the consequences. The can can't be kicked down the road forever. Eventually, the bill has to be paid in full. The Cowboys are facing bills that must be paid in full. Dak, CeeDee, and Micah are large contracts and not all can be paid at the same time. Micah can be paid later but the other two are due now.

 

[kskboys]

NFL teams (and other leagues) have proven over and over again they can manipulate the salary CAP in multiple ways to build the teams with the players they want. So any excuse that involves insufficient funds is just an excuse. Having said that, every team makes different strategic choices when it comes to managing the salary CAP.

As for player salaries, even the lowest paid players make salaries that are mere fantasies to 99.9% of fans. So, I’ve never understood why fans take sides when it comes to disputes between millionaires and billionaires. I’ve worked for 36 years as an engineer, and haven’t made as much as Dak Prescott will make in 2 games. I’ve supported my family, sent 3 children to college, and am paying for a 2nd wedding this year. And it’s been enough.

Bottom line: it’s not my money. It isn’t your money either. Arguing over salary CAP dollars and player salaries is really among the most useless things a fan can do. We cannot relate to wealth at that level.

Does CeeDee, or Dak, or Micah “deserve” the money they’ll get? Is it fair that they make so much more these days than players like Larry Allen or Emmitt Smith made back in the day. WHO CARES? It’s not my money.

And it isn’t yours either. Pretending it matters to fans is just another psychological fantasy to engage fans. I won’t be sucked into those arguments anymore. I prefer to discuss football, not finances.

How do so many people get this so wrong?

Listen up, Jumbo. No one cares how much any player makes except how it pertains to the salary cap.

Sounds to me as if you're the one obsessed w/ their salaries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[kskboys]

There is truth in what you are saying but you don't seem to understand the whole truth. Yes, salary caps can be manipulated but every trick used has a consequence, as well as a benefit. You're not taking into account the consequences. The can can't be kicked down the road forever. Eventually, the bill has to be paid in full. The Cowboys are facing bills that must be paid in full. Dak, CeeDee, and Micah are large contracts and not all can be paid at the same time. Micah can be paid later but the other two are due now.

Joe gets it.

 

[RoboQB]

Do people really think about cap related topics based on jealousy? No. They don't. Not the vast majority which are sane and have at least basic intelligence.
Weird thread topic.

 

[kskboys]

You miss the point of cap arguments. Its not a jealousy thing. Nobody cares if CD makes 50M or 5M. As you said, it is not our money. It makes no difference to fans. The cap arguments are about how can we use the cap money available in way that builds a better team. Is making Dak and CD the highest paid players at their positions a smart use of cap dollars? Who is sacrificed to make those contracts work? Can we improve the team making those contracts b/c this isn't KC or SF where we just need to hold a nucleus of players together who have proven they can get to the big game. We aren't even close. So, we need to have these salary cap discussions bc the contracts affect the ability of the team to improve.

Yup.
And if you don't want to discuss salaries, why'd you start a thread about it?

 

[Coogiguy03]

There is truth in what you are saying but you don't seem to understand the whole truth. Yes, salary caps can be manipulated but every trick used has a consequence, as well as a benefit. You're not taking into account the consequences. The can can't be kicked down the road forever. Eventually, the bill has to be paid in full. The Cowboys are facing bills that must be paid in full. Dak, CeeDee, and Micah are large contracts and not all can be paid at the same time. Micah can be paid later but the other two are due now.

Which they need to start front loading contracts making it easier later in the contract to let these guys go if they're having years of bad play

 

[kskboys]

Looks like Overtime thread material to me.

 

[Reality]

NFL teams (and other leagues) have proven over and over again they can manipulate the salary CAP in multiple ways to build the teams with the players they want. So any excuse that involves insufficient funds is just an excuse. Having said that, every team makes different strategic choices when it comes to managing the salary CAP.

As for player salaries, even the lowest paid players make salaries that are mere fantasies to 99.9% of fans. So, I’ve never understood why fans take sides when it comes to disputes between millionaires and billionaires. I’ve worked for 36 years as an engineer, and haven’t made as much as Dak Prescott will make in 2 games. I’ve supported my family, sent 3 children to college, and am paying for a 2nd wedding this year. And it’s been enough.

Bottom line: it’s not my money. It isn’t your money either. Arguing over salary CAP dollars and player salaries is really among the most useless things a fan can do. We cannot relate to wealth at that level.

Does CeeDee, or Dak, or Micah “deserve” the money they’ll get? Is it fair that they make so much more these days than players like Larry Allen or Emmitt Smith made back in the day. WHO CARES? It’s not my money.

And it isn’t yours either. Pretending it matters to fans is just another psychological fantasy to engage fans. I won’t be sucked into those arguments anymore. I prefer to discuss football, not finances.

Actually, the money is generated from fans, so it may not be "our money" but fans are a huge part of the process of making them "their money".

That said, the only reason I care about contracts is because if one or a few players use up a lot of the salary cap, it means the team will have to go cheap in other areas.

I am not a fan of big contracts until players have proven they can help you win Super Bowls, and even then you have to weigh how it will impact and limit the team's other positions.

For example, if you give one player $30 million, then that's 12% of the 2024 salary cap for one player, who could be injured on any play or fail to live up to that contract for whatever reasons. That leaves 88% of the salary cap for the remaining 52 players.

Then you pay your quarterback (no matter who it is) $50 million per year and that's close to 20% of the salary cap on one player.

That means with two players, you have used up 32% of the salary cap leaving you with only 68% of the salary cap for the remaining 51 players.

I have no problems with players trying to get as much as they can. Their careers are short so they need to capitalize on their performance as much as possible.

I just don't like the team having to let players go or be prevented from signing players that would help the team simply because one to three players are eating up so much of the salary cap.

 

[JoeKing]

Which they need to start front loading contracts making it easier later in the contract to let these guys go if they're having years of bad play

 

[kskboys]

Actually, the money is generated from fans, so it may not be "our money" but fans are a huge part of the process of making them "their money".

That said, the only reason I care about contracts is because if one or a few players use up a lot of the salary cap, it means the team will have to go cheap in other areas.

I am not a fan of big contracts until players have proven they can help you win Super Bowls, and even then you have to weigh how it will impact and limit the team's other positions.

For example, if you give one player $30 million, then that's 12% of the 2024 salary cap for one player, who could be injured on any play or fail to live up to that contract for whatever reasons. That leaves 88% of the salary cap for the remaining 52 players.

Then you pay your quarterback (no matter who it is) $50 million per year and that's close to 20% of the salary cap on one player.

That means with two players, you have used up 32% of the salary cap leaving you with only 68% of the salary cap for the remaining 51 players.

I have no problems with players trying to get as much as they can. Their careers are short so they need to capitalize on their performance as much as possible.

I just don't like the team having to let players go or be prevented from signing players that would help the team simply because one to three players are eating up so much of the salary cap.

Very well said. And clear example of how the salary cap is very important to success.