It's about results

[odog422]

Always has been, always will be. Two coachs, first year. Results: One coach, NFC championship with with a team that was not good by all accounts last year. Another coach doesn't make the playoffs with a "very talented" contender by most prognostications.

That is culture change. That is success. That is what we don't have. Disjointed is what we are. There are pieces, there are elements. But somebody has to bring it all together. Nothing I've seen from our coach suggests to me he is the one to do it. I believe it will be more of the same - peaks and valleys but not showing up when it counts.

Not mad at Garrett and its not personal. But nothing was earned. Not the OC position and certainly not the HC position. Rankings mean nothing when you don't win when it counts over and over.

It was enjoyable to watch a hungry, focused, disciplined team fight and succeed. Their record on the season says its what they've been doing all along. How great to see them show up under the big lights and perform when it counts. Something, sadly, I haven't seen my team do for a long, long, time.

 

[dadymat]

Yawn.......what an original thread

 

[odog422]

Yawn.......what an original thread

Thanks for the original reply.

 

[windward]

It's been one year. Harbaugh is a good coach, but that doesn't mean Garrett was the wrong hire for us

Look at Tony Sparano's first season vs a guy like Mike McCarthy

Let's see how Garrett fares after a few more years before we bury him.

 

[anava]

It's been one year. Harbaugh is a good coach, but that doesn't mean Garrett was the wrong hire for us

Look at Tony Sparano's first season vs a guy like Mike McCarthy

Let's see how Garrett fares after a few more years before we bury him.

I hope it doesn't take a few more years to find out. We have some key players in the prime of their career. We give him 3-4 years to find out if he is the right guy he better be if not we are starting over with coach and players. That's what worries me about the give him some time statements.

 

[rags747]

Face it, Dallas just does not have the talent where it is needed. Both lines need heavy duty upgrades.

 

[windward]

I hope it doesn't take a few more years to find out. We have some key players in the prime of their career. We give him 3-4 years to find out if he is the right guy he better be if not we are starting over with coach and players. That's what worries me about the give him some time statements.

I don't really think it will take that long. With the right offseason, we will see results starting in September.

 

[dboy214]

honestly it's not even about the record that impresses me about harbaugh and san fran. it's the style of play. those guys have heart. they play hard till the whistle. their defense is fast and physical. their oline takes pride in blocking.

now i look at jason garrett's first year...and it's not the record that bothers me b/c i predicted 9-7. it's the way they played all season. undisciplined penalties. missed tackles. missed assignments. confusion on offense and defense. horrible time management. and a fear to go for the jugular when ahead.

it is not fair to compare their records b/c i think the 49ers have a little more talent, but it is fair to compare the style of play under both head coaches.

 

[Brian_C82]

It must be nice to have a QB who can keep his cool under pressure. Romo doesn't have the guts or mental focus to do what Smith did today. He pads his stats against chumps, but time and again he fails in the clutch against quality opponents.

 

[CaptainMorgan]

Always has been, always will be. Two coachs, first year. Results: One coach, NFC championship with with a team that was not good by all accounts last year. Another coach doesn't make the playoffs with a "very talented" contender by most prognostications.

That is culture change. That is success. That is what we don't have. Disjointed is what we are. There are pieces, there are elements. But somebody has to bring it all together. Nothing I've seen from our coach suggests to me he is the one to do it. I believe it will be more of the same - peaks and valleys but not showing up when it counts.

Not mad at Garrett and its not personal. But nothing was earned. Not the OC position and certainly not the HC position. Rankings mean nothing when you don't win when it counts over and over.

It was enjoyable to watch a hungry, focused, disciplined team fight and succeed. Their record on the season says its what they've been doing all along. How great to see them show up under the big lights and perform when it counts. Something, sadly, I haven't seen my team do for a long, long, time.

I'm with ya, status quo dysfunctionality is what we get year after year. It has to start at the top though. I'm not writing off red yet, ill reserve judgement after he has a full offseason to work with this team.

 

[odog422]

It's been one year. Harbaugh is a good coach, but that doesn't mean Garrett was the wrong hire for us

Look at Tony Sparano's first season vs a guy like Mike McCarthy

Let's see how Garrett fares after a few more years before we bury him.

McCarthy was 8-8 his first year and the team finished the season on the upswing. If Garrett matches McCarthy from here out (best won-loss ratio to start the first 25 games of a career among active coaches) then I may change my tune.

I absolutely believe Garrett was the wrong hire. He didn't earn anything. Both the guys you named had a track record before becoming HC. Garrett was anointed. Same for the OC position. And the results have bore that out - a guy learning as he goes, erratic, inconsistent performance.

Like I said, I don't dislike Garrett personally, he's doing what he knows. He simply doesn't have the experience. Yes, one day, eventually, he may learn. But the "deer in the headlights" in crucial moments like we saw on several occasions is one of those things that you absolutely do not want to see in your leader. No matter what.

I'm sure we will see exactly what Garrett is made of in a few years because Jerry has absolutely pushed in all his chips on this one so no choice.

 

[odog422]

I hope it doesn't take a few more years to find out. We have some key players in the prime of their career. We give him 3-4 years to find out if he is the right guy he better be if not we are starting over with coach and players. That's what worries me about the give him some time statements.

That's my thing. Clearly he lacks experience. By the time he gains it, this teams primes will be done.

 

[odog422]

honestly it's not even about the record that impresses me about harbaugh and san fran. it's the style of play. those guys have heart. they play hard till the whistle. their defense is fast and physical. their oline takes pride in blocking.

now i look at jason garrett's first year...and it's not the record that bothers me b/c i predicted 9-7. it's the way they played all season. undisciplined penalties. missed tackles. missed assignments. confusion on offense and defense. horrible time management. and a fear to go for the jugular when ahead.

it is not fair to compare their records b/c i think the 49ers have a little more talent, but it is fair to compare the style of play under both head coaches.

And that comes from...the HC.

 

[odog422]

I don't really think it will take that long. With the right offseason, we will see results starting in September.

That's pretty much what was said when he was promoted last year by those who favored his appointment. This year looked like more of the same.

Even under Wade I don't think anybody tried to lay several defeats directly on his coaching decisions. Discipline and all the rest, sure.

 

[odog422]

It must be nice to have a QB who can keep his cool under pressure. Romo doesn't have the guts or mental focus to do what Smith did today. He pads his stats against chumps, but time and again he fails in the clutch against quality opponents.

Romo is not the problem. His coaches bear responsibility on his play too, just like Alex Smith. He didn't suddenly turn into all world when many were ready to toss him out the league. That's coaching.

 

[odog422]

I'm with ya, status quo dysfunctionality is what we get year after year. It has to start at the top though. I'm not writing off red yet, ill reserve judgement after he has a full offseason to work with this team.

Agreed.

 

[Chuck 54]

Doesn't surprise me that Jim Harbough might be a better coach right now.

JH was certainly a better QB in the NFL and played smart gutsy football, managing games as the QB.

JH has had much more coaching experience to prove himself as a play caller, OC, and head coach. He was more prepared for this.

Garrett will have a better year next season.

 

[burmafrd]

It must be nice to have a QB who can keep his cool under pressure. Romo doesn't have the guts or mental focus to do what Smith did today. He pads his stats against chumps, but time and again he fails in the clutch against quality opponents.

must be nice to have the Football IQ of a turnip

 

[CaptainMorgan]

It must be nice to have a QB who can keep his cool under pressure. Romo doesn't have the guts or mental focus to do what Smith did today. He pads his stats against chumps, but time and again he fails in the clutch against quality opponents.

You mean our defense falls apart time and again?

quit being a mental midget and think about what youre saying for gods sake.

 

[Flinger]

I played on a high school team in Dallas back in the 70's that reached the semi-finals for state in Texas that played a better defense than the Cowboys.

Talented? Are you serious?

Kuodos to Harbaugh. But, his team has been stockpiling high draft choices for years due to losing. The niners have talent on Defense that Dallas could only dream about.