Its all about perspective

[Verdict]

Last year when we traded for Cooper, people were afraid we gave too much for him. That’s obviously a fluid view. So far it’s looking like a good deal, everywhere except as it pertains to the cap.

If we aren’t going all in this year and being prudent going forward, we could flip Cooper for a 1st and maybe change. That would mean we got a partial year out of Cooper for pocket change. That locks in the profit on the deal.

If we flip him we save his cap hit, but the future looks less bright in the immediate future. Cobb was, at one time, probably a top 20 receiver. If you substitute Cobb for Amari this year is he an acceptable substitute for Cooper? IDK, but what is the drop off vs cap hit. You could use that #1 next year on a top flight, cheap WR.

We also have several intriguing udfa WRs with speed this year. What if one of them sets the world on fire?

I’m not suggesting this is the path we should take, but once you pay Amari, all the risk goes to the Cowboys. At best you get what you paid for. At worst you get a Dez contract and end up moving on from another player you want to keep on down the road.

It’s really all a matter of perspective. Before you get your panties all in a bunch, the Patriots did something similar about two seasons ago, giving a first for a WR and then traded him away the following year.

 

[jday]

Last year when we traded for Cooper, people were afraid we gave too much for him. That’s obviously a fluid view. So far it’s looking like a good deal, everywhere except as it pertains to the cap.

If we aren’t going all in this year and being prudent going forward, we could flip Cooper for a 1st and maybe change. That would mean we got a partial year out of Cooper for pocket change. That locks in the profit on the deal.

If we flip him we save his cap hit, but the future looks less bright in the immediate future. Cobb was, at one time, probably a top 20 receiver. If you substitute Cobb for Amari this year is he an acceptable substitute for Cooper? IDK, but what is the drop off vs cap hit. You could use that #1 next year on a top flight, cheap WR.

We also have several intriguing udfa WRs with speed this year. What if one of them sets the world on fire?

I’m not suggesting this is the path we should take, but once you pay Amari, all the risk goes to the Cowboys. At best you get what you paid for. At worst you get a Dez contract and end up moving on from another player you want to keep on down the road.

It’s really all a matter of perspective. Before you get your panties all in a bunch, the Patriots did something similar about two seasons ago, giving a first for a WR and then traded him away the following year.

Cobb is good and maybe 2 or 3 years ago you might be able to come close to convincing me, but he has struggled with injuries recently and that sounds a whole lot like asking the masses if we should trade Vander Esch or Jaylon and let Sean Lee hold down the fort. Sean can do it, but he's not as a reliable as you would like to even consider that move.

And Amari is special. I honestly think he and Dak are more important to keeping than Zeke.

 

[CouchCoach]

Last year when we traded for Cooper, people were afraid we gave too much for him. That’s obviously a fluid view. So far it’s looking like a good deal, everywhere except as it pertains to the cap.

If we aren’t going all in this year and being prudent going forward, we could flip Cooper for a 1st and maybe change. That would mean we got a partial year out of Cooper for pocket change. That locks in the profit on the deal.

If we flip him we save his cap hit, but the future looks less bright in the immediate future. Cobb was, at one time, probably a top 20 receiver. If you substitute Cobb for Amari this year is he an acceptable substitute for Cooper? IDK, but what is the drop off vs cap hit. You could use that #1 next year on a top flight, cheap WR.

We also have several intriguing udfa WRs with speed this year. What if one of them sets the world on fire?

I’m not suggesting this is the path we should take, but once you pay Amari, all the risk goes to the Cowboys. At best you get what you paid for. At worst you get a Dez contract and end up moving on from another player you want to keep on down the road.

It’s really all a matter of perspective. Before you get your panties all in a bunch, the Patriots did something similar about two seasons ago, giving a first for a WR and then traded him away the following year.

Any comparison with how the Patriots conduct business and the Cowboys is ludicrous. What did they do with their DE that was right there with Lawrence? Didn't even try to tag him.

I think once they found a WR that could get college open for the QB, that was a fait accompli. They would let Elliott walk before Cooper.

WR's in the draft are right behind QB's in potential bust and they traded the pick that most likely would have gone for a WR in this past draft.

 

[Ranching]

Cobb is good and maybe 2 or 3 years ago you might be able to come close to convincing me, but he has struggled with injuries recently and that sounds a whole lot like asking the masses if we should trade Vander Esch or Jaylon and let Sean Lee hold down the fort. Sean can do it, but he's not as a reliable as you would like to even consider that move.

And Amari is special. I honestly think he and Dak are more important to keeping than Zeke.

Not used to reading one of your posts without taking a water break!! Salud!

 

[DallasEast]

Every year a particular word or phrase catches fire on the site. It seems 2019's catchphrase will be panties.

 

[Jake]

It seems 2019's catchphrase will be panties.

 

[jday]

Not used to reading one of your posts without taking a water break!! Salud!

I don't know, man. I just don't care (about other fans opinion, not the Cowboys in general) like I used to. Also, from one season to the next I was beginning to feel like a broken record, so there's that.

 

[Ranching]

Every year a particular word or phrase catches fire on the site. It seems 2019's catchphrase will be panties.

Rockyport likes that!!!

 

[Blake]

I'm out!

 

[jazzcat22]

Sign Cooper, sign Dak, sign Zeke
Next year sign Jaylon, sign Jones
In 2 years sign LVE
Keep the OL in tact even if you use a few 1st and 2nd round picks over that span of 3 or 4 years.

If any fan wants this team to be a contender for the next 5 to 6 years that is what you want them to do.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

Amari is the perfect receiver for Dak. I don’t think you mess with that.

 

[TruBluSince1982]

"Accident waiting to happen"

Everything is looking up for the Cowboy's entering this season, Freddy back, Cooper with a whole TC under his belt, a legit defense that is likely much improved with additions where needed combined with more experience with such a young group. Loaded roster with the most players in the top 100, beat a good Seattle team to advance, close to taking down the Rams, a group that had already shocked and taken down a high flying Saint's group......

And.... Wait for it

Yep

Like the guy or not, he's just being honest at our expense.

 

[Jake]

I'm out!

 

[xwalker]

Last year when we traded for Cooper, people were afraid we gave too much for him. That’s obviously a fluid view. So far it’s looking like a good deal, everywhere except as it pertains to the cap.

If we aren’t going all in this year and being prudent going forward, we could flip Cooper for a 1st and maybe change. That would mean we got a partial year out of Cooper for pocket change. That locks in the profit on the deal.

If we flip him we save his cap hit, but the future looks less bright in the immediate future. Cobb was, at one time, probably a top 20 receiver. If you substitute Cobb for Amari this year is he an acceptable substitute for Cooper? IDK, but what is the drop off vs cap hit. You could use that #1 next year on a top flight, cheap WR.

We also have several intriguing udfa WRs with speed this year. What if one of them sets the world on fire?

I’m not suggesting this is the path we should take, but once you pay Amari, all the risk goes to the Cowboys. At best you get what you paid for. At worst you get a Dez contract and end up moving on from another player you want to keep on down the road.

It’s really all a matter of perspective. Before you get your panties all in a bunch, the Patriots did something similar about two seasons ago, giving a first for a WR and then traded him away the following year.

In regards to trading away Cooper.

In April 2019 a team with the 11th pick in the draft considers trading for Cooper.

If the pick and contract were the same, GMs would prefer Cooper over a draft pick.
- The exception would be if the draft pick was a Randy Moss talent with no character issues.
- The difference in contracts is the big issue.

Contract Estimates in April 2019 Cooper vs Pick #11 WR

Cooper
(age 24 in April 2019)
2019 14M
2020-2023 72M (18M per)
Total 86M for 5 years.

WR with pick #11
2019-2022 17.6M
2023 12.4M (5th year option)
Total 30M for 5 years.

Difference: 56M over 5 years.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Sign Cooper, sign Dak, sign Zeke
Next year sign Jaylon, sign Jones
In 2 years sign LVE
Keep the OL in tact even if you use a few 1st and 2nd round picks over that span of 3 or 4 years.

If any fan wants this team to be a contender for the next 5 to 6 years that is what you want them to do.

silly Jazz, you can slide in an old guy like Peterson, bums at WR and trade Dak while going with Cooper Rush and still get to a SB

 

[Verdict]

In regards to trading away Cooper.

In April 2019 a team with the 11th pick in the draft considers trading for Cooper.

If the pick and contract were the same, GMs would prefer Cooper over a draft pick.
- The exception would be if the draft pick was a Randy Moss talent with no character issues.
- The difference in contracts is the big issue.

Contract Estimates in April 2019 Cooper vs Pick #11 WR

Cooper
(age 24 in April 2019)
2019 14M
2020-2023 72M (18M per)
Total 86M for 5 years.

WR with pick #11
2019-2022 17.6M
2023 12.4M (5th year option)
Total 30M for 5 years.

Difference: 56M over 5 years.

That’s right.

 

[Verdict]

Any comparison with how the Patriots conduct business and the Cowboys is ludicrous. What did they do with their DE that was right there with Lawrence? Didn't even try to tag him.

I think once they found a WR that could get college open for the QB, that was a fait accompli. They would let Elliott walk before Cooper.

WR's in the draft are right behind QB's in potential bust and they traded the pick that most likely would have gone for a WR in this past draft.

What they would have done last year is in the past. I’m talking about the options going forward.

If your aunt had testicles she would be your uncle.

 

[Verdict]

Cobb is good and maybe 2 or 3 years ago you might be able to come close to convincing me, but he has struggled with injuries recently and that sounds a whole lot like asking the masses if we should trade Vander Esch or Jaylon and let Sean Lee hold down the fort. Sean can do it, but he's not as a reliable as you would like to even consider that move.

And Amari is special. I honestly think he and Dak are more important to keeping than Zeke.

Zeke may be the better player but easier to satisfactorily replace.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Last year when we traded for Cooper, people were afraid we gave too much for him. That’s obviously a fluid view. So far it’s looking like a good deal, everywhere except as it pertains to the cap.

If we aren’t going all in this year and being prudent going forward, we could flip Cooper for a 1st and maybe change. That would mean we got a partial year out of Cooper for pocket change. That locks in the profit on the deal.

If we flip him we save his cap hit, but the future looks less bright in the immediate future. Cobb was, at one time, probably a top 20 receiver. If you substitute Cobb for Amari this year is he an acceptable substitute for Cooper? IDK, but what is the drop off vs cap hit. You could use that #1 next year on a top flight, cheap WR.

We also have several intriguing udfa WRs with speed this year. What if one of them sets the world on fire?

I’m not suggesting this is the path we should take, but once you pay Amari, all the risk goes to the Cowboys. At best you get what you paid for. At worst you get a Dez contract and end up moving on from another player you want to keep on down the road.

It’s really all a matter of perspective. Before you get your panties all in a bunch, the Patriots did something similar about two seasons ago, giving a first for a WR and then traded him away the following year.

Using the Patriots as an example of a risky business decision with much more downside than gain isn't so much perspective than it is wishful thinking. In no way is Garrett Belichick or Dak Brady. That alone makes this suggestion pointless.

The caveat of we have young fast guys so Coop is expendable for a 1st assumes Coop could bring a first and also the young guys are adequate substitutes with Cobb.

I have maintained two factors have caused some fans to believe these marginal guys could blossom into unexpected greatness.

Miles Austin was a prime example of a one season wonder who cashed a big paycheck because Jerry Jones couldn't see Romo was more instrumental in his accomplishment than it was Austin being a #1 receiver. In a way this also applied to Dez, but a much lesser way.

Romo is the the player that actually worked out. Yet he did not deliver a championship. And he had the best team one year and they failed in the first play-off game.

The cap has become the focal point of so many, which means they overlook what this game is about.

Winning a championship.

This is all play money. Not a cent is coming out of the pocket of anyone who posts or just reads here.

After 23 years of unacceptable results, my personal belief is it is time to push all the chips in and get it done. There is risk. But looking at the way this team has been assembled and the results over two decades, I see no difference in falling short but trying than playing this Monopoly game that is the daily bill-o-fare on this board.

The team hasn't done jack for 23 years. Maybe it's time to sack up and go for the gold.

But to answer the OP. No, you keep Cooper and forget the supremely long odds the world missed on guys who are walk ons and a player that has been injured the last few years. We saw what a sub-par WR corp looked like the first half of last year.

 

[Verdict]

Using the Patriots as an example of a risky business decision with much more downside than gain isn't so much perspective than it is wishful thinking. In no way is Garrett Belichick or Dak Brady. That alone makes this suggestion pointless.

The caveat of we have young fast guys so Coop is expendable for a 1st assumes Coop could bring a first and also the young guys are adequate substitutes with Cobb.

I have maintained two factors have caused some fans to believe these marginal guys could blossom into unexpected greatness.

Miles Austin was a prime example of a one season wonder who cashed a big paycheck because Jerry Jones couldn't see Romo was more instrumental in his accomplishment than it was Austin being a #1 receiver. In a way this also applied to Dez, but a much lesser way.

Romo is the the player that actually worked out. Yet he did not deliver a championship. And he had the best team one year and they failed in the first play-off game.

The cap has become the focal point of so many, which means they overlook what this game is about.

Winning a championship.

This is all play money. Not a cent is coming out of the pocket of anyone who posts or just reads here.

After 23 years of unacceptable results, my personal belief is it is time to push all the chips in and get it done. There is risk. But looking at the way this team has been assembled and the results over two decades, I see no difference in falling short but trying than playing this Monopoly game that is the daily bill-o-fare on this board.

The team hasn't done jack for 23 years. Maybe it's time to sack up and go for the gold.

But to answer the OP. No, you keep Cooper and forget the supremely long odds the world missed on guys who are walk ons and a player that has been injured the last few years. We saw what a sub-par WR corp looked like the first half of last year.

I think you keep your cap healthy and compete every year and do what you can do get better every year. Going all in gets you a dead period where you have no chance.

The more times you make it in the playoffs the better chance you have to eventually cash in a big one.

If they pay Dak, Zeke, Amari, Collins, Jones etc, they are going to run out of money for depth. If we had no depth last year you could have written the year off once Frederick went down.