It's also about the players....

[Novacek84]

As bad as Garrett is this core group is done. It's over and they'll never win anything. if you could rebuild this team from the ground up who would you keep?

My list has Harris, T. Smith, Lee, Bailey, Hatcher, Frederick and Church. (Witten and Ware are too old) You can have the rest of these losers. Discuss.

 

[yentl911]

I really fail to see the hatred for garrett here. He can't play safety and he can't block. He made the right calls IMO. Players did not execute.

 

[Beats_By_Zeke]

You wouldn't keep bryant?

 

[fifaguy]

I like Twill as well..

 

[tomsanders921]

You wouldn't keep bryant?

Nope. Too much money.

 

[pupulehaole]

LOL at not keeping TWill or Dez.

 

[yentl911]

As bad as Garrett is this core group is done. It's over and they'll never win anything. if you could rebuild this team from the ground up who would you keep?

My list has Harris, T. Smith, Lee, Bailey, Hatcher, Frederick and Church. (Witten and Ware are too old) You can have the rest of these losers. Discuss.

Smith had the critical holding penalty today right? He has to shoulder some of the blame. No holding call and the Lions get the ball back with less than 30 secs on the clock.

I would add T Williams to that list - looks like a young Terry Glenn to me…even where the same number. Carter is playing better too and has a bright future.

 

[Novacek84]

You wouldn't keep bryant?

Yes. forgot Dez and even T. Williams.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

I really fail to see the hatred for garrett here. He can't play safety and he can't block. He made the right calls IMO. Players did not execute.

So what does a coach do, exactly? Why do you pay him hundreds of thousands of dollars? It seems to me the "players play" reasoning can apply to any and all coaching failures, such as Dave Schula and Steve Spurrier, etc, etc...

 

[kevm3]

I really fail to see the hatred for garrett here. He can't play safety and he can't block. He made the right calls IMO. Players did not execute.

he can call a game to where we put points on the board and capitalize on turnovers so that it doesn't come down to last second theatrics. He could have found a way to have that offense get first downs so we can run the clock out.

 

[yentl911]

So what does a coach do, exactly? Why do you pay him hundreds of thousands of dollars? It seems to me the "players play" reasoning can apply to any and all coaching failures, such as Dave Schula and Steve Spurrier, etc, etc...

Get the players ready and manage the game which I thought he did today. The secondary was clueless when it mattered most.

 

[kevm3]

i'm keeping dez, williams, lee, carter, harris, beasley, etc... mostly the young guys who haven't been infected with the dallas losing mentality. I'll keep guys like hatcher around too... carr and claiborne I'll keep as well.

 

[yentl911]

he can call a game to where we put points on the board and capitalize on turnovers so that it doesn't come down to last second theatrics. He could have found a way to have that offense get first downs so we can run the clock out.

No chance to run out the clock with these RB's and no way he could have risked throwing a pass. If he was aggressive and three it people would blame him. He made the right call by running the ball but the holding penalty killed the plan.

 

[Falcon554]

I really fail to see the hatred for garrett here. He can't play safety and he can't block. He made the right calls IMO. Players did not execute.

because, you look at KC, 2-12 last year, now look at this 8-8 team, yep 4-4. KC shows what good coaching can do, and we have not seen good coaching in forever.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Get the players ready and manage the game which I thought he did today. The secondary was clueless when it mattered most.

And the players seemed "ready" to you today? The offense seemed "ready" with their performance in the first three quarters?

It seems to me the players also generated 4 turnovers.

 

[yentl911]

because, you look at KC, 2-12 last year, now look at this 8-8 team, yep 4-4. KC shows what good coaching can do, and we have not seen good coaching in forever.

KC has a wealth of talent - how many Pro Bowlers did they have last year? They are getting by with a young aggressive athletic D and a solid running game. Two things we do not have.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

KC has a wealth of talent - how many Pro Bowlers did they have last year? They are getting by with a young aggressive athletic D and a solid running game. Two things we do not have.

No one was saying that last year. They had three players get in as alternates. Two of their Pro Bowlers were special teamers.

 

[yentl911]

And the players seemed "ready" to you today? The offense seemed "ready" with their performance in the first three quarters?

It seems to me the players also generated 4 turnovers.

I thought the team seemed ready. They just didn't execute when it mattered. The players also committed a terrible penalty that would have placed the Lions with the ball and less than 30 seconds on the clock after the kick off and also gave top over 600 yards of offense. You have no business even being in the game if you give up that kind of real estate.

 

[yentl911]

No one was saying that last year. They had three players get in as alternates. Two of their Pro Bowlers were special teamers.

They have a stacked defense - D-line to DB's, have a great running back, solid QB play and a young and talented O-Line.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

I thought the team seemed ready. They just didn't execute when it mattered. The players also committed a terrible penalty that would have placed the Lions with the ball and less than 30 seconds on the clock after the kick off and also gave top over 600 yards of offense. You have no business even being in the game if you give up that kind of real estate.

You also have no business losing a game with a +4 turnover margin.

Untimely penalties are often a sign of not being "ready" to play.

I'm not attack you here. Your opinion is just as valid as anyone else's, and you're free to absolve Garrett of any and all blame. But these improbable losses are starting to stack up under Garrett.