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I like Manny Lawson as well. Plus he's a special teams demon. Holds the NCAA record for most blocked punts. Parcells will eat that up.
 
InmanRoshi said:
I like Manny Lawson as well. Plus he's a special teams demon. Holds the NCAA record for most blocked punts. Parcells will eat that up.
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I agree Rosh.
 
InmanRoshi said:
We have depth at OLB? Parcells said yesterday that he's bringing in OLB's to workout on Monday because we are so thin on the position. He's been calling around the league asking street vets how good their conditioning in. We have absolute NO depth right now.

The depth wont be better next year when we cut Singleton. Especially if Burnett is moved to the mack position in the offseason, which is probably his best position in this defense.
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didnt say olb, it says LB. we could use a backup OLB as I think Fujita will resign. then burnett move inside. we have more than enough starters, no way do we get an LB first round. if we start ware james burnett fujita, we could use a little help at olb, but definitely not high up, more like a 2nd day pick. then we have shanle and dat in the middle, i see no need to upgrade that. so yes i do consider that depth.
 
If we had a chance at lawson in 2nd i'd take him. but that isnt gonna happen imo, he will shoot up the draft after the combine like people always do, and be a first rd pick.
 
OK, think I'll try my hand at this (never can resist a good draft thread)... I like to offer a couple-three options for each pick, ranked in order of preference:

FIRST ROUND:

FS/CB Michael Huff, Texas... I'm figuring the Boys to be drafting later in the first round, so a lot of really nice talent was taken off my board with that assumption... Huff has CB speed but is a solid FS who can hit and cover...

OT Marcus McNeil, Auburn... he's just massive, and can move some too... maybe it's time for the Cowboys to throw a premium pick at the OL...

DT Rodrique Wright, Texas... more of a classic 4-3 DT, but so is Glover...

SECOND ROUND:

WR Martin Nance, Miami-Ohio... very tall, very fast, good hands, ultra-productive... some history of injury...

WR Todd Watkins, BYU... perhaps the fastest WR in the draft, has a lanky, angular build... his playing style reminds me of Mike Sherrard...

C Mike DeGory, Florida... I believe the Boys need to get bigger in the middle of the OL, and DeGory is a legit 315... he's also the best center in this draft...

THIRD ROUND:

FS/CB Jason Allen, Tennessee... originally graded a first round prospect, his hip injury might well push him down in the draft, allowing the Cowboys another chance at a Chris Canty-type gamble...

FB Matt Bernstein, Wisconsin... Parcells wants his fullbacks to be able to do more than just block, and this 260 pounder qualifies...

OLB Thomas Howard, UTEP... a 240 pounder with sub-4.4 second speed in the 40 and a reputation for big plays... can rush the passer or drop into coverage...

CB Chijioke Oyenegeche, Oklahoma... nice physical package, has the size and speed you want in a CB...

FIFTH ROUND:

C/OT Ryan Cook, New Mexico... terrific size, and the versatility to play in the middle or swing out to tackle...

OG/C Will Allen, Texas... a solid blocker who also offers a team versatility... has the tools to be a solid NFL backup, I think... can you tell I'm focusing heavily on guys who can play center this year??

FS Dwayne Slay, Texas Tech... I'm sold on his hitting ability, but can he cover??

SIXTH ROUND:

DT Kwakou Robinson, Virginia... a 325 pounder with a Parcells background (Al Groh is his head coach, and runs a very similar scheme)...

DE Lennard Patten, Grambling... has the size you want in a 3-4 DE, and has reportedly been clocked in as fast as 4.6 seconds...

QB Barrick Nealy, Texas State... puts up big numbers, albeit against lesser competition... the kind of late round gamble I like, could he be a poor man's Tony
Romo??

SEVENTH ROUND:

S Reed Doughty, Northern Colorado... a tackling machine, averaging over 15 a game this year...

OG Jose Garcia, UTEP... I like adding offensive linemen in the late rounds, part I...

OT William Winston, Texas... I like adding offensive linemen in the late rounds, part II...

OT Zac Tubbs, Arkansas... I like adding offensive linemen in the late rounds, part III... and Jerry likes his Razorbacks...
 
Hiero said:
didnt say olb, it says LB. we could use a backup OLB as I think Fujita will resign. then burnett move inside. we have more than enough starters, no way do we get an LB first round. if we start ware james burnett fujita, we could use a little help at olb, but definitely not high up, more like a 2nd day pick. then we have shanle and dat in the middle, i see no need to upgrade that. so yes i do consider that depth.
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I don't agree. BP collects LBs like your Gramma collects Hummels. I think that if an OLB fell, Bill would snatch him up and be happy to have him.
 
ABQCOWBOY said:
I don't agree. BP collects LBs like your Gramma collects Hummels. I think that if an OLB fell, Bill would snatch him up and be happy to have him.
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you mean in the first round?
 
No. I don't believe Lawson will go in the 1st round. I don't think he has prototypical size to rate that way. I think he's a little bit raw yet. He isn't Ware but he is a nice athlete. I think he'll probably be a 3rd pick. Possibly later depending on his season this year.
 
Hiero said:
you mean in the first round?
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If the value was there, definitely. The Cowboys shouldn't be in a position where they have to depend on their draft picks to start right away next year. We should have plenty of cap space in free agency to fill immediate holes. They should take value.

And just because they're trying to resign Fujita doesn't mean that he's going to be a 50 snap player.
 
InmanRoshi said:
If the value was there, definitely. The Cowboys shouldn't be in a position where they have to depend on their draft picks to start right away next year. We should have plenty of cap space in free agency to fill immediate holes.

And just because they're trying to resign Fujita doesn't mean that he's going to be a 50 snap player.
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Agree. I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple of linebackers come in at various points in the draft. They usually can play specials as well.

Everyone seems sold on Fujita. I really liked the trade and I still do, but is a guy that couldn't beat out Singleton without a season ending injury really the answer? I hope I can answer yes at some point, but its a concern IMO. Plus he is a free agent and depth is paper thin.

Who wouldn't want a guy like Carpenter is my question? Pass rush ability (he lines up as a DE quite a bit), coverage ability, coach's son, ties to BP.

If LB is the value pick, take it and run. Finalize your front seven for the next 5-10 years.
 
I have no problem bringing in lb's just not in the first round. only way i see that happening is if aj or greenway fell to us. or if brooks came out(not too sure he even will) and slipped to us and Parcells liked him. other than that it can wait til later, fujita isnt gonna play 50 snaps, but he will get a lot, and doesnt need a first rd pick to help him start.
 
junk said:
Agree. I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple of linebackers come in at various points in the draft. They usually can play specials as well.

Everyone seems sold on Fujita. I really liked the trade and I still do, but is a guy that couldn't beat out Singleton without a season ending injury really the answer? I hope I can answer yes at some point, but its a concern IMO. Plus he is a free agent and depth is paper thin.

Who wouldn't want a guy like Carpenter is my question? Pass rush ability (he lines up as a DE quite a bit), coverage ability, coach's son, ties to BP.

If LB is the value pick, take it and run. Finalize your front seven for the next 5-10 years.
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I think carpenter is a guy parcells would like, but maybe 3rd rd pick .
 
Hiero said:
I think carpenter is a guy parcells would like, but maybe 3rd rd pick .
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I think he may be off the board a bit before then.
 
InmanRoshi said:
Since its bye week, so draft nerds like myself can look ahead and think about the draft ... like we can help ourselves.

My dream Cowboys draft at this point...

Round 1: DE/OLB Elvis Dumervil, Louisville ... 20 sacks this season. The next Terrel Suggs. The missing piece to a dominant Cowboys 3-4 defense.

Round 2: OT Andrew Whitworth, LSU ... would have been a 1st round pick last year, but a the deepest OT class in recent memory combined with his likely inability to play left tackle drops him to Round 2.

Round 3: QB Omar Jacobs ... He's had a injury filled year which has dropped his stock. Maybe the one time 1st round pick drops to the 3rd round.

Round 4: (Traded to Philly in the Canty deal)

Round 5: S DWayne Slay, Texas Tech ... 6'4" 215 lbs. Poor man's Sean Taylor http://media.putfile.com/DwayneSlay Uhmm .. .yeah.


Round 6, pick 1 (pick obtained by the Jets for Pete Hunter): WR Michael Robinson, Penn State ... raw, converted scrambling QB who has good size/speed combination, and good run after the catch ability.

Round 6, pick 2 (obatined from the Eagles in the Canty deal): C Pat Ross Boston College ... Cowboys need a replacement for Gurode who walks in free agency. Can't have enough Boston College offensive linemen.

Round 6, pick 3 (Cowboys pick) .. traded to KC in the Fujita trade.

Round 7 .. K Jon Scrifes SW Missouri .. best K in a weak draft class for the position. Also kickoffs and punts.
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Whitworth lasts till late 2nd?

I'd be very suprised if we draft a QB on the 1st day, much less on any day in the '06 draft
 
Hiero said:
Im gonna guess you mean Omar Jacobs and if we got him in the 3rd i'd be doing backflips. 41/4 td/int ratio. big and strong and is athletic. Seems like a good decision maker and has all the measurables, just needs a bit of mechanics work. I know im gonna be minority, but I wouldnt even mind taking this guy in the second round if we had to. He can sit behind Bledsoe and learn and then be ready to play when he needs to. He reminds me a bit of Leftwich just a little less polished but more athletic.
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the only problem I see with Omar Jacobs, is the fact that he runs a simplistic offense at BOwling Green, could take him awhile to learn how to do reads and checkdowns in the NFL
 
Yakuza Rich said:
I think you meant Omar Jacobs. Personally, I’ve been thoroughly unimpressed with Jacobs. His arm isn’t as good as advertised, weird throwing motion, and doesn’t throw the deep ball accurately. He’s also coming out of a system that appears more and more gimmicky each week. I doubt Charlie Whitehurst will be available in round 3, but if he is and Dallas takes him, I’d do a backflip.
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yep, and good point about Jacob's throwing motion, I pointed it out on another board, after watching him play, that he holds it kinda like a waiter holds a tray, and would be an easy forced fumble in the NFL, all the defender has to do is reach in the back of his head and swipe at the football, that will surely be corrected when he reaches the pros, and because of the simplistic offense he runs at Bowling Green, it could set him back some, why bother when we can just go through that process with Henson, which we've been doing already
 
DT/NT is where we go in first round. No WR's - weak draft. Look at Safety or the next Heath Miller/Witten.....
 
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