It's cliche to say QBs prospects in the draft are subpar; consider these

I look at the QB situation in much the same way as I do timing belts for your automobile. A timing belt doesn't really get looked at much until it's too late. However, you really should pay close attention to it. When the belt goes, you are literally screwed and it's expensive and inconvenient to deal with and fix it many times. If you just plan for it, it's a whole lot easier to deal with.
 
GimmeTheBall!;4972138 said:
Yeah, Tony Romo will play until he's 37.
And he'll keep being a gunslinger and thowing picks (5 in some games) and in must-win situations.
And he'll keep telling us he needs to do better and he'll keep critiizing his receivers (even Witten) on the field when he makes errant thows.

To me Tony is the past.

Consider Ryan Nassib, Syrace, or Matt Barkley, USC.

We cannot remain static with Oh No Romo or with an almost average Orton.
We gotta upgrade before Tony descends into "average" with old age and injuries.

Let's look to the future. A QB needs maybe 2 years to develop. Just in time for Tony to step down. Plan for the future. If not now, when?

(I was remist for not mentioning our most glaring needs: O line and front defensive line. I'd rather take my chances at FA than miss out on a Barkley or a Nassib.)
QB possibility. Dominic Davis with Atlanta will be a RFA this year. Moved from 4th string to 2nd in 2012 training camp and pre season games. I saw him a couple of games and he really looked good.
 
Galian Beast;4972204 said:
In case you don't want to answer the question

There have been 20 quarterbacks taken in the first round of the draft since Tony Romo became the starter of the Dallas Cowboys.

Of which only 1 has a career QB rating higher than Romo.

1/20 is 5%

FIVE PERCENT

You can expand it to other rounds as well, but your percentage is going to drop considerably.

Well, I do understand what you are saying but I think the problem with this criteria is that the NFL doesn't base championships on regular season QB ratings.

The measuring stick is playoffs and ultimately championships. That's the real problem.
 
DOUBLE WING;4972182 said:
As a former USC student who saw just about every game Matt Barkley played, I would recommend staying as far away from his as possible. I'm not a fan at all.

That means he's probably the top QB on their board. I saw just a few of his games & he was inconsistent. But I didn't watch enough of them to know if he was a problem.
 
ABQCOWBOY;4972208 said:
I look at the QB situation in much the same way as I do timing belts for your automobile. A timing belt doesn't really get looked at much until it's too late. However, you really should pay close attention to it. When the belt goes, you are literally screwed and it's expensive and inconvenient to deal with and fix it many times. If you just plan for it, it's a whole lot easier to deal with.

I agree. However right now the car has other repiars that need to be taken care of. While I would not mind seeing the Cowboys getting a QB in the draft but there are areas that are a bit more critical at this stage.
 
Galian Beast;4972204 said:
In case you don't want to answer the question

There have been 20 quarterbacks taken in the first round of the draft since Tony Romo became the starter of the Dallas Cowboys.

Of which only 1 has a career QB rating higher than Romo.

1/20 is 5%

FIVE PERCENT

You can expand it to other rounds as well, but your percentage is going to drop considerably.

granted hitting on a qb in the draft is hard but we cant just stick our heads in the sand and expect Tony to be here forever either, I'm not saying use a high draft pick on a qb but theres no reason not to take a chance on one in the 4th or 5th. We can't just stand pat we have to think about the future
 
Doomsday101;4972145 said:
I know at some point Dallas will have to. I really can't see Dallas taking a QB within the 1st 3 rds of this draft. I do agree it is something that should be addressed in advance but with Romo contract likely to be extended I think this year would be highly unlikely to get a QB

You are right, we shouldn't go for a QB in this draft. We shouldn't extend Romo either.. we should trade him while he still has value. We could get a #1 for him and use that to really help our lines. Then we could go for a QB next year early in the draft.
 
Active QBs with a career passer rating above 80 (i don't believe rookies are counted) who were drafted later than the 1st round

#1 Tony Romo - 95.6, undrafted
#2 Matt Schaub - 91.9, third round
#3 Shaun Hill - 85.9, undrafted (started 26 games)
#4 Andy Dalton - 83.9, 2nd round
#5 Matt Hasselbeck - 82.2, 6th round
#6 Matt Cassel - 80.4, 7th round

So to get a franchise quality quarterback, your only real choice is basically drafting one in the first round, and as I showed you the odds of getting a qb BETTER than Romo is 5 percent so far.
 
ABQCOWBOY;4972213 said:
Well, I do understand what you are saying but I think the problem with this criteria is that the NFL doesn't base championships on regular season QB ratings.

The measuring stick is playoffs and ultimately championships. That's the real problem.

Teams win playoff games and championships... the fact that people fail to recognize that is the real problem. Any one with a lick of sense understands that Romo is not at all the problem here.

It's our lack of an offensive line, lack of a running game, and lack of a defense. Not to mention getting out coached.

Wasting precious draft resources on a QB at this juncture is folly, because he won't be as good as Romo, and will have just as much failure as Romo, because the team will continue to suck.
 
tantrix1969;4972217 said:
granted hitting on a qb in the draft is hard but we cant just stick our heads in the sand and expect Tony to be here forever either, I'm not saying use a high draft pick on a qb but theres no reason not to take a chance on one in the 4th or 5th. We can't just stand pat we have to think about the future

True but these picks are pretty iffy but who know maybe a guys like an Brad Sorensen could develop into a very good QB.

Brad Sorensen may be the most underrated quarterback in college football.
Dane Brugler of NFLDraftScout.com rates Sorensen as the second-best small-school prospect; only outstanding Elon receiver Aaron Mellette is ranked above him.

Sorensen has a very interesting background story. He played one season at San Bernardino Valley College and also had a redshirt season at BYU before settling with Southern Utah in 2010.
"Settling" may be a massive understatement. "Excelling" may be more appropriate because he has thrown for over 6,300 yards and 38 touchdowns in only two years as a starter.

At 6'5" and 235 lbs, Sorensen has great NFL size and could the next non-Division I quarterback to make an impact at the next level.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ew-with-2013-nfl-draft-prospect-brad-sorensen
 
Doomsday101;4972216 said:
I agree. However right now the car has other repiars that need to be taken care of. While I would not mind seeing the Cowboys getting a QB in the draft but there are areas that are a bit more critical at this stage.

Timing Belt goes and it doesn't matter how many new parts you have fixed or replaced, they will all be new in a vehicle that doesn't run. It's a pay me now, pay me more later kind of thing.
 
Quick question... who thinks this team actually has a legitimate shot in the post season with Romo? I would hope that we would, but I certainly don't think we do.
 
I don't want to draft a QB until we have a coaching staff I am comfortable can bring him along. I don't trust Garrett or Wilson with a newbie. I would rather let the org. try to build the foundations of the offensive and defensive lines. We can get a QB in the draft when we have a coach that can handle one.
 
Galian Beast;4972200 said:
Again tell me how many QBs have come out of the draft since 2006, with a higher quarterback rating than Tony Romo?

Now tell me how many quarterbacks have been drafted in the first round?

Divide the first number by the second number, and that is your rate of risk vs reward...

Tell me that you think you're on the right page.

I half never disputed Tony's sterling QB ratings.
While I don't think we'd burn a 1st-round pick on a QB, I contend we need to, at one point, take a chance on QBs like Barkley or Nahhib.

If you think that I think drafting QB is a sure thing, you are mistaken. It's a gamble on QBs. It's also a gamble on other positions unless it is Tyron Smith.

Still, at some point, we need to gamble on a QB. Not to replace Tony next year, but to groom. How much cleerer can I make that?
High QB ratings do not necessarily translate into postseason success.

Just ask Tony.

Just ask any Cowboys fan after that off-balance hail marry thow me made to a Commanders defender in the last game.
 
Galian Beast;4972230 said:
Teams win playoff games and championships... the fact that people fail to recognize that is the real problem. Any one with a lick of sense understands that Romo is not at all the problem here.

It's our lack of an offensive line, lack of a running game, and lack of a defense. Not to mention getting out coached.

Wasting precious draft resources on a QB at this juncture is folly, because he won't be as good as Romo, and will have just as much failure as Romo, because the team will continue to suck.


But QBs can lose them. We may all be senseless but that doesn't mean that your QB rating argument is anymore fruitful. It doesn't matter what your QB rating is during the season. It's about what you do in the Playoffs and in Championships that set the mark.

As for precious draft choices, well, I would not call a draft choice spent on a QB prospect folly, anymore then I would spending a draft choice on any other position. You draft to your board and if that player is a QB, so be it.
 
ABQCOWBOY;4972244 said:
Timing Belt goes and it doesn't matter how many new parts you have fixed or replaced, they will all be new in a vehicle that doesn't run. It's a pay me now, pay me more later kind of thing.

I'm not saying that but if you don't have an engine the timing belt is useless. :D

I'm all for getting a QB but right now would like to get players to protect the timing belt. Getting a timing belt and watching him getting his ares kicked all over the field is not going to help :laugh2:
 
Career QB ratings of QBs drafted in the first round since 2006

Robert Griffin III 102.4
Matt Ryan 90.9
Joe Flacco 86.3
Cam Newton 85.3
Jay Cutler 84
Matthew Stafford 82.8
Josh Freeman 79.8
Jack Locker 78.4
Sam Bradford 77.3
Christian Ponder 77.1
Andrew Luck 76.5
Ryan Tannehill 76.1
Tim Tebow 75.3
Vince Young 74.4
Brandon Weeden 72.6
Mark Sanchez 71.7
Matt Leinart 70.2
Blaine Gabbert 70.2
JaMarcus Russell 65.2
Brady Quinn 64.4
 
Ntegrase96;4972246 said:
Quick question... who thinks this team actually has a legitimate shot in the post season with Romo? I would hope that we would, but I certainly don't think we do.

I think we half a chance with Romo. Year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year Year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year . . .
 
GimmeTheBall!;4972254 said:
I half never disputed Tony's sterling QB ratings.
While I don't think we'd burn a 1st-round pick on a QB, I contend we need to, at one point, take a chance on QBs like Barkley or Nahhib.

If you think that I think drafting QB is a sure thing, you are mistaken. It's a gamble on QBs. It's also a gamble on other positions unless it is Tyron Smith.

Still, at some point, we need to gamble on a QB. Not to replace Tony next year, but to groom. How much cleerer can I make that?
High QB ratings do not necessarily translate into postseason success.

Just ask Tony.

Just ask any Cowboys fan after that off-balance hail marry thow me made to a Commanders defender in the last game.


Again, it's a team sport. The idea of grooming a quarterback, rather than building a foundation around an elite quarterback that you already have is ridiculous. Any help not going towards helping Romo, is simply wasting the rare opportunity that we have.
 
Doomsday101;4972257 said:
I'm not saying that but if you don't have an engine the timing belt is useless. :D

I'm all for getting a QB but right now would like to get players to protect the timing belt. Getting a timing belt and watching him getting his ares kicked all over the field is not going to help :laugh2:

I understand that. I don't really have a problem with that but I still believe Dooms, that it's something you have to work in conjunction. If you have a QB on your board and he's there, you should not be afraid to pull the trigger on him. I have always felt like the Cowboys should be in the business of developing QBs. The returns on it, even if they don't play for you, have much more upside. I don't necessarily think we need to draft a QB in the 1st but if there is one there, we should not look away from it simply because we have other needs. The time is coming where we are going to need another QB.
 
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