It's not Kiffin's fault it's the personnel

[RS12]

It's not Kiffin's fault it's the personnel

Guess you missed Monte's tenure at USC. Clueless at defending the spread and middle of the field.

 

[offlimits]

I don't particularly like the scheme. But the talent (and injuries) are the problem.

talent can make any scheme successful

 

[Picksix]

Overall good points but I disagree about the idea about the linebackers. They misevaluated Carter badly. The Tampa 2, or even a variant of the Seattle defense has to have that weakside linebacker in place who can do it all, run, cover and make run stops. I make that a priority right behind 3-technique DT if I am looking to improve the football team.

Yeah, but wasn't Carter supposed to be able to do all that?

 

[gmoney112]

Guess you missed Monte's tenure at USC. Clueless at defending the spread and middle of the field.

Ah, yes. I believe before the season people were lamenting the fact that Chip would destroy old man Monte because of the college years.

Monte had to deal with 20 different lineman, a piss poor LB core in the second game, and a JV squad of safeties while Chip had 0 injuries to his offense. How'd that work out again?

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

possibly a bit of both.

or

a lot of both.

 

[BigStar]

In the summer I compared Kiffin's 4-3 to Parcells 3-4. Most of you agreed on here that the plan is just to beat your am. 1 on 1 and try to limit the big play.

Well this year our DLine didn't have the talent to win those 1 on 1 battles and it's hard to stop the run when the OLine is at the second level constantly.

In the pass game when the DLine can't when 1 on 1 battles it becomes flag football for the QB.

So people say why not blitz more? Well given how bad our linebackers were they weren't getting home either so it becomes flag football without enough guys in coverage.

You won't see a big change from Kiffin to Marinelli since Kiffin taught Marinelli the scheme. It's a PR/accountability stunt designed to intimidate in players in the locker room who shouldn't be on the team in the first place. And let's be honest the general fan isn't going to buy or not buy tickets based on who the DC is.

Bottom line is we just need talent! If we can get a dominant line this scheme will be PHENOMINAL bc it will constantly win the 1-on-1 battles and collapse the pocket.

If your "scheme" doesn't account for variability of the talent of players available it is an outdated and laughable "scheme".

 

[Nirvana]

There were issues with coaching and scheme for sure. Claiborne certainly thought so, and there was probably consensus for him to speak up about it. Changes need to be made and I hope Kiffin being put in a lesser role is one of them.

 

[gmoney112]

If your "scheme" doesn't account for variability of the talent of players available it is an outdated and laughable "scheme".

Key word: talent.

Will someone please tell me where all this talent was on the defense?

 

[Nav22]

Hahahaha "find a scheme that fits the players!"

Football 101: there's no such thing as a scheme that overcomes bad football players. When your D gets completely decimated by injuries AND it's their 1st year trying to learn a new system, you're screwed.

And you're out of your mind if you think the problem is that the scheme is "outdated". You're basing that on nothing. Learn football.

 

[jnday]

Ah, yes. I believe before the season people were lamenting the fact that Chip would destroy old man Monte because of the college years.

Monte had to deal with 20 different lineman, a piss poor LB core in the second game, and a JV squad of safeties while Chip had 0 injuries to his offense. How'd that work out again?

It duties out that Chip is headed to the playoffs.

 

[Nirvana]

Things I question Kiffin for:

1. Not taking Floyd in first
2. Not having a good read on the Ratliff situation
3. Coverage scheme play calling
4. Cutting Will Allen and going "all in" on Heath
5. Carter regressing
6. Claiborne regressing
7.

 

[jobberone]

The fact so many are crying scheme says it all.

 

[Alexander]

Yeah, but wasn't Carter supposed to be able to do all that?

Of course. That is why I stated I believe they misevaluated him. To me, he looks like his confidence is shot and he needs to be shielded inside. He just does not look like he is capable of playing such a key role in the defense.

 

[Nirvana]

Prime example of Kiffin miscues would be the Lions game, end of 4th quarter, and that lousy zone coverage which put Heath in situations where he had to make a play on Calvin Johnson, and where Megatron was not the focus and could get open.