Its time to get rid of players that keep making mistakes...

Galian Beast

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In the offseason, we obviously should start with Flozell Adams...

get rid of

Adams
Hamlin

And I think that'll be a great start.
 

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Something has to give. Players need to know that there jobs are in jeopardy and the status quo isnt going to cut it.

Unfortunately that isnt the mentality of the coach OR the owner. I dont see how they can justify starting Crayton vs Atlanta when he has clearly been out played by Austin. Crayton keeps dropping passes and muffs a punt.
 

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Galian Beast;3012590 said:
In the offseason, we obviously should start with Flozell Adams...

get rid of

Adams
Hamlin

And I think that'll be a great start.

Our HC/DC is a jellyfish. No players will ever get cut Jimmy Johnson style. The Wade Phillips Country Club is ever popular during the regular season.
 

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It is time = in the offseason?

Okay, it is time for the draft...in the off season.
 

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Well I'm not saying cut Flo now... that just doesn't make sense.

But I think its time to address the idea here... we have to draft a tackle, and get one in free agency to replace flo.

start austin over crayton, and have someone else other than him and newman do punt returns.. maybe austin can do it.
 

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Flozell Adams has looked pretty stiff at times the past two weeks, but I don't think the staff has it in them to deliver "an improve or else" ultimatum and Jerry Jones would have to be on board with it.

The staff placates veterans and shies away from using younger players, often until given no choice.

We'd have no idea about Tashard Choice if not for injuries last season. Mike Jenkins and Orlando Scandrick needed cornerbacks to go down or get suspended to earn early playing time. We'd still be wondering about Miles Austin's potential if Roy Williams wasn't hurt.

We tend to completely exhaust our starting outside 'backers even after Victor Butler showed some potential with two late sacks against Carolina.

The only way Doug Free, a player we need to find out about this season, will get on the field is for the Hotel to get hurt badly enough to allow it.

And that's a shame.

Flo is a warrior, but he looks to be slowing down, even though the bye week will undoubtedly help.

Even starting Adams shouldn't prevent Free from getting some snaps, we don't even have to alternate them.

We play plenty of double tight end sets and there's no reason Free couldn't report as an eligible player and line up next to Adams.

It would give us a "run" look, but Jason, Witten, Roy Williams, Miles Austin and a running back would still be pass options.

Want to keep a tight end in to pass protect? No problem.

We could get film on a player we need to evaluate and not hurt Adams' feelings, which seems to be a priority at Valley Ranch.
 

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Bleu Star;3012609 said:
Our HC/DC is a jellyfish. No players will ever get cut Jimmy Johnson style. The Wade Phillips Country Club is ever popular during the regular season.

Uhh Jimmy would NEVER had cut Flo or Hamlin, he may have cut someone like Cletis Gordon. Jimmy NEVER cut starters people no matter how much you want to believe it
 

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BigDFan5;3012723 said:
Uhh Jimmy would NEVER had cut Flo or Hamlin, he may have cut someone like Cletis Gordon. Jimmy NEVER cut starters people no matter how much you want to believe it

Now that's the truth.

On another note I wonder how much the salary cap plays into cutting a player,even if he is an underachiever you can't cut him due to cap considerations.That is something Jimmy never had to deal with here(cap).

Craig
 

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Then Colombo has to go. He has numerous penalties and has missed several assignments. Those mistakes have to stop.
 

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Bluefin;3012709 said:
Flozell Adams has looked pretty stiff at times the past two weeks, but I don't think the staff has it in them to deliver "an improve or else" ultimatum and Jerry Jones would have to be on board with it.

The staff placates veterans and shies away from using younger players, often until given no choice.

We'd have no idea about Tashard Choice if not for injuries last season. Mike Jenkins and Orlando Scandrick needed cornerbacks to go down or get suspended to earn early playing time. We'd still be wondering about Miles Austin's potential if Roy Williams wasn't hurt.

We tend to completely exhaust our starting outside 'backers even after Victor Butler showed some potential with two late sacks against Carolina.

The only way Doug Free, a player we need to find out about this season, will get on the field is for the Hotel to get hurt badly enough to allow it.

And that's a shame.

Flo is a warrior, but he looks to be slowing down, even though the bye week will undoubtedly help.

Even starting Adams shouldn't prevent Free from getting some snaps, we don't even have to alternate them.

We play plenty of double tight end sets and there's no reason Free couldn't report as an eligible player and line up next to Adams.

It would give us a "run" look, but Jason, Witten, Roy Williams, Miles Austin and a running back would still be pass options.

Want to keep a tight end in to pass protect? No problem.

We could get film on a player we need to evaluate and not hurt Adams' feelings, which seems to be a priority at Valley Ranch.

I agree with you, and will add that Jerry will always demand that the player he signed to the higher salary will play first. He wants to get his monies worth from those high priced morons, regardless of how badly they are playing.

That's why you will see Ken Hamlin starting instead of Mike Hamlin, Crayton will play over Austin, Barbie stays on the team, flo will continue to make his mistakes and penalties, etc.

Wade should sit Flo and Hamlin to make a statement to the team that their horrific play will not be tolerated. But Jerry will order Wade to play those high priced players.
 

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Bleu Star;3012609 said:
Our HC/DC is a jellyfish. No players will ever get cut Jimmy Johnson style. The Wade Phillips Country Club is ever popular during the regular season.

Really, I have not seen TO, Roy Williams and Tank Johnson around. I love Jimmy but cutting Curvin Richards and a few others like him proved nothing they were never starting players and never were going to be starting players on that them.
 

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Doomsday101;3013268 said:
Really, I have not seen TO, Roy Williams and Tank Johnson around.
I find it hard to believe anyone would think Wade Phillips made those decisions.
 

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Double Trouble;3013282 said:
I find it hard to believe anyone would think Wade Phillips made those decisions.

Jerry made the final call but I do think Wade was involved. Jerry seem reluctant to release TO and I don't think he came to the conclusion without the input of others including Phillips
 

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What bothers me most about Flo is not so much his stupid penalties, he's been doing that for years. it's the fact that He's playing lazy.
 

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Poor quarterback play has directly led to the losses. Why isn't Romo on the top of your list?

Besides from the offensive line which is actually playing well as a unit, the only player playing at a pro bowl level is Ratliff.

You are not going to have much of a team left if your attitude is getting rid of players that make mistakes.
 

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Maybe it'd wake the other players up a bit if they got around to letting some guys go that didnt preform
 

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I can't believe people actually want to bench Flo. That's crazy. He's always made these mistakes and he's not going to stop now in his mid 30s. He even made them for Parcells, and Bill didn't bench him either. Why? Because even with his limitations, he's still a darn good LT and better than the alternative.
 

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Mr Cowboy;3013256 said:
I agree with you, and will add that Jerry will always demand that the player he signed to the higher salary will play first. He wants to get his monies worth from those high priced morons, regardless of how badly they are playing.

Now if this was really true Romo would have never replaced Bledsoe.
 

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Bluefin;3012709 said:
Flozell Adams has looked pretty stiff at times the past two weeks, but I don't think the staff has it in them to deliver "an improve or else" ultimatum and Jerry Jones would have to be on board with it.

The staff placates veterans and shies away from using younger players, often until given no choice.

We'd have no idea about Tashard Choice if not for injuries last season. Mike Jenkins and Orlando Scandrick needed cornerbacks to go down or get suspended to earn early playing time. We'd still be wondering about Miles Austin's potential if Roy Williams wasn't hurt.

We tend to completely exhaust our starting outside 'backers even after Victor Butler showed some potential with two late sacks against Carolina.

The only way Doug Free, a player we need to find out about this season, will get on the field is for the Hotel to get hurt badly enough to allow it.

And that's a shame.

Flo is a warrior, but he looks to be slowing down, even though the bye week will undoubtedly help.

Even starting Adams shouldn't prevent Free from getting some snaps, we don't even have to alternate them.

We play plenty of double tight end sets and there's no reason Free couldn't report as an eligible player and line up next to Adams.

It would give us a "run" look, but Jason, Witten, Roy Williams, Miles Austin and a running back would still be pass options.

Want to keep a tight end in to pass protect? No problem.

We could get film on a player we need to evaluate and not hurt Adams' feelings, which seems to be a priority at Valley Ranch.
I think I have found a like mind. Did you NOTICE that when we put a fresh body in to rush the passer at the end of the Carolina, said player IMMEDAITLEY led the team in sacks in 5 TOTAL PLAYS.

Flashback to the Giants game and their final scoring drive. The OLBers were barely getting off the line of scrimmage. They came out of there stance and just stood there. They were gassed

Or how about late in the 4th against the Chiefs were Barber was cleary gassed or not himself. As SOON as we put Choice in, that same OL that Barber was getting stuffed behind immedialtey sprung Choice for a TD

We do a HORRIBLE job of managing talent DURING the game...it's as if we are afraid that if we take a guy out for a play the media is going to question the coahces ad nauseam, or the player being given a breather is going to disrupt the lockeroom. I don't udnerstand it....simpy do NOT understand it.

How can we CONTINUE to ask Crayton to return punts...the IMMEDIATLEY go play WR? We are playing with one hand behind our back with Crayton as a starting WR. Why does this madness continue?
 

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I have been wanting us to draft a top OT prospect for some time. It's never popular during the draft. We all just want to look at the sexy players. In 07, I really wanted Joe Staley.
 
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