superpunk;1409045 said:
I understand your point, but you can't just say "everyone picked after him isn't better" and have that excuse Ellis. I think everyone expected a little more from the 8th pick, regardless of what the guys picked after him did.
He's been a solid player, and definitely better than alot of those guys after him, but not the playmaker that was expected. We picked Ware 3 picks later and he's already more dynamic than Ellis has ever been. You might have been discussing something else with philo (I dunno, I can't see it, and I don't read the quotes). If so, ignore me.
maybe, but trying to get some work done between posts while TPS reports are running.
we all expected more from the 8th pick. but to say it's a cowboys and/or ellis problem only is misleading. who got "value" and what they expected out of that draft.
indy
maybe minny.
that's it.
ellis has been a good player, but more in the line of a tony tolbert than a charles haley. to even get that it seems is a good deal.
how many 1st round picks have been at least as much as the hype would have you believe? where we got emmitt i don't think anyone would have said HOF right here baby! not anyone but a homer-deluxe. but to say that you'll get your hype-reward because they're a 1st round pick - it doesn't seem to happen that way. in the end maybe you just get a little bit better of a player than average.
fair to expect? not real sure, no. but is it fair to expect HOF out of every 1st round pick? i think we as fans do it but i don't see a lot of drafts that hold that up.
oops - i got the memo. gonna have to work saturday... damn tps reports.