James Carpenter Alabama

[Randy White]

I don`t see where the statement is so ridiculous at all. For the most part, low-round draft picks and cast-off free agents are not working. Dallas had a good line for a year or two in the last decade, but in truth, the line has been a problem since the late 90s . Jerry has said repeatedly that he doesn`t want OL with high picks in the draft. The result is what you see on the field now.

" Cast off free agents " ? There's nothing " cast off " about Leonard Davis, Marco Rivera, or even Kyle Kosier. They all cost a pretty penny to sign. As for " low draft picks ", that's another ridiculous statement. Just because the Cowboys haven't spent a #1 draft pick since 1981 on an offensive lineman, which dates back to even before Jerry bought the team, doesn't mean they haven't spent high draft picks on them.

Since the begining of this century ( 2000 ) the Cowboys have spent SIX 2nd and/or 3rd rnd draft picks in 11 drafts on the offensive line. The only other position where the Cowboys have spent as many high picks ( including two #1s ) over that same time span is at linebacker, with the secondary 1 pick behind at FIVE.

Once again, it's NOT the lack of resources that's been the problem, it's the lack of development and/or talent evaluation and Jerry doesn't have anything to do with either directly.

 

[jnday]

" Cast off free agents " ? There's nothing " cast off " about Leonard Davis, Marco Rivera, or even Kyle Kosier. They all cost a pretty penny to sign. As for " low draft picks ", that's another ridiculous statement. Just because the Cowboys haven't spent a #1 draft pick since 1981 on an offensive lineman, which dates back to even before Jerry bought the team, doesn't mean they haven't spent high draft picks on them.

Since the begining of this century ( 2000 ) the Cowboys have spent SIX 2nd and/or 3rd rnd draft picks in 11 drafts on the offensive line. The only other position where the Cowboys have spent as many high picks ( including two #1s ) over that same time span is at linebacker, with the secondary 1 pick behind at FIVE.

Once again, it's NOT the lack of resources that's been the problem, it's the lack of development and/or talent evaluation and Jerry doesn't have anything to do with either directly.

Well first you can look at the free agents that you named ; Davis played good for a couple of years , I will give you that , he was not so great with the Cards , in fact some labeled him a bust , but he was used as a tackle ; Rivera , How did that work out? He was at the end of his career IMO. ; Kosier has been ok when he hasn`t been injured , average player at best. On to the next point. The OL requires more picks . It is the biggest unit on the football field. The last few years Young and Brewster have been the picks. These are not top picks at all IMO. I agree with you that the talent evaluation had been bad , but when a pick fails , I have not seen much effort in addressing that failure. The way that you are looking at is that if a 2nd or 3rd round pick was used several years ago , that is considering addressing the line. I look at it as as simple as this . When the line is fixed , I will consider it addressed. For the last 2 or 3 years the line has been in decline . What has been done ? I am not a Jerry hater , in fact , I think most of the bashing is silly. My biggest complaint is that when a pick fails , his general thinking is similar to yours. We used this many picks and this many free agents were signed . It is taken care of . In case you haven`t noticed , the line still socks. That point can not be debated. Scouting and player evaluation have really hurt , but as Jerry has said , the buck stops with him.

 

[Randy White]

Well first you can look at the free agents that you named ; Davis played good for a couple of years , I will give you that , he was not so great with the Cards , in fact some labeled him a bust , but he was used as a tackle ; Rivera , How did that work out? .

A) Leonard Davis has been with the Cowboys for 4 years and in 3 of them he's been named to the Pro Bowl.

B) You've written a 150+ words post to say that your problem is with the results, which NOBODY is arguing with.

Where you went wrong is when you stated that Jerry " undervalues " the offensive line when the evidence shows the exact opposite. You don't undervalue anything you spend the most resources on.. If he truly undervalued the offensive line, he would have treated it like he does kickers.

That's just like the people who were calling Jerry Jones cheap because he didn't sign any free agents this past off-season but fail to noticed that the Cowboys had THE highest payroll in the NFL. Or at least one of the highest.

 

[jnday]

A) Leonard Davis has been with the Cowboys for 4 years and in 3 of them he's been named to the Pro Bowl.

B) You've written a 150+ words post to say that your problem is with the results, which NOBODY is arguing with.

Where you went wrong is when you stated that Jerry " undervalues " the offensive line when the evidence shows the exact opposite. You don't undervalue anything you spend the most resources on.. If he truly undervalued the offensive line, he would have treated it like he does kickers.

That's just like the people who were calling Jerry Jones cheap because he didn't sign any free agents this past off-season but fail to noticed that the Cowboys had THE highest payroll in the NFL. Or at least one of the highest.

We will agree to disagree. In few words as possible , I don`t think Alex Barron and Sam Young is addressing the problem. That is just using this last year as an example.