News: Jane Slater On How LVE’s Role Will Change Under Nolan

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Mike is an excellent position for LVE, the only issue I see is durability if his neck is not 100%.

You cant play MLB in the NFL with a gimpy neck, at least not very long.
 

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I've said that I thought there really were two glaring problems with last season's linebacker play compared to the previous season.

(1)...that the DTs weren't as effective in keeping the O-linemen off of our LBs... and...

(2)... there had to be something wrong with LVE that we weren't hearing about.

For the most part, he was indeed not himself.
In that defense it wasnt the job of the dts to keep ol off the lbs. LBs had gap responsibility and they were bad at it. DTs were 1 gap and get after the qb and play the run on the way to the qb.
 

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so they're going to take away his ability to do the things he does best like cover backs out of the backfield and run sideline to sideline. don't see this as a good thing.
 

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In that defense it wasnt the job of the dts to keep ol off the lbs. LBs had gap responsibility and they were bad at it. DTs were 1 gap and get after the qb and play the run on the way to the qb.

exactly.
 

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He has that kind of ability..

I don’t want him playing Mike and just taking on blocks all the time..

Let this man run and let him clog passing lanes.

With Poe taking up a double team on the nose ....LVE is gonna be free to run from hash to hash untouched...and do what he does best...read on the run...and take away running lanes...and make tackles for losses. There were so many times last year w/ Smith in the middle...the play had started and he just stood there.....poor recognition.
 

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so they're going to take away his ability to do the things he does best like cover backs out of the backfield and run sideline to sideline. don't see this as a good thing.
Your lack of common football knowledge is laughable.
 

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Your lack of common football knowledge is laughable.

yours is even more laughable, he's an excellent cover LB, we only have 1 and he's it. the weakside LB is generally your best coverage backer and with teams passing more why would you move your best coverage linebacker.
 

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so they're going to take away his ability to do the things he does best like cover backs out of the backfield and run sideline to sideline. don't see this as a good thing.

It's not that simple, the MLB doesn't just stand in the middle of the defense and take on running backs that go up the middle, he will still be free to pursue backs on sweeps, quarterbacks on bootlegs, etc. Have you never heard of teams that "swarm to the ball"?
 

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https://sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/jane-slater-dallas-cowboys-lb-174654421.html

Starts at about 1:22, good insight on the injury too.

Quick Highlights:

-100% healthy and in the best lower body shape he’s ever been. Fully ready for camp at 250lbs with no restrictions or lingering things to monitor.

-Spent last season “trying to tackle with one arm”. Neck stinger caused stiffness and made it hard to move neck. Made it difficult be himself.

-Will be the Mike LB in new role.

-Mentioned the Saints game in terms of how his role will look. Less sideline to sideline use and more running through gaps in the front 7 to make plays. Will be relying more on McCoy and Poe to occupy blockers to let him be free to get downhill and make plays.

I’m liking it.
Sounds like a lot of sacks and LVE hitting a lot of QB's
 

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It's not that simple, the MLB doesn't just stand in the middle of the defense and take on running backs that go up the middle, he will still be free to pursue backs on sweeps, quarterbacks on bootlegs, etc. Have you never heard of teams that "swarm to the ball"?

no ****, but your main responsibility is those gaps in front of you and offenses can also manipulate the middle linebacker with creating trash in front of him, with flow and getting him caught up in the wash. He's excellent as a cover backer, and is lethal in space why change that. you got to learn football. He's the prototypical weakside linebacker he's a natural at it, and it's the position he played in college. stop trying to recreate these guys.
 

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no ****, but your main responsibility is those gaps in front of you and offenses can also manipulate the middle linebacker with creating trash in front of him, with flow and getting him caught up in the wash. He's excellent as a cover backer, and is lethal in space why change that. you got to learn football. He's the prototypical weakside linebacker he's a natural at it, and it's the position he played in college. stop trying to recreate these guys.
Idiot, go play Madden.
 

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no ****, but your main responsibility is those gaps in front of you and offenses can also manipulate the middle linebacker with creating trash in front of him, with flow and getting him caught up in the wash. He's excellent as a cover backer, and is lethal in space why change that. you got to learn football. He's the prototypical weakside linebacker he's a natural at it, and it's the position he played in college. stop trying to recreate these guys.

At 255 lbs he needs to be in the middle, besides, if he's on the weak side and the play is to the strong side, he's going to have to run nearly across the entire field to get in on the tackle, at Mike he can cover on both sides.

But that's fine, never fails, when someone can't change somebody else's mind, they just throw out the insults, doesn't bother me but I'm sure able to recognize it. Love to discuss NFL football and the Cowboys, but you want to discuss, just berate.

Sad.
 

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With Poe taking up a double team on the nose ....LVE is gonna be free to run from hash to hash untouched...and do what he does best...read on the run...and take away running lanes...and make tackles for losses. There were so many times last year w/ Smith in the middle...the play had started and he just stood there.....poor recognition.

Some of those plays his rookie year were just unbelievable. The Barkley tackle in open space being one.
 

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Some of those plays his rookie year were just unbelievable. The Barkley tackle in open space being one.
Yeah his rookie year was amazing. Considering he didn’t even start the first few games and almost led the league in tackles for a rookie
 

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Mike is an excellent position for LVE, the only issue I see is durability if his neck is not 100%.

You cant play MLB in the NFL with a gimpy neck, at least not very long.

Moose played about 3 more years after fusion surgery. When he had another issue it was not the same area that had been surgically repaired. He just blew out a different disc.
 

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In that defense it wasnt the job of the dts to keep ol off the lbs. LBs had gap responsibility and they were bad at it. DTs were 1 gap and get after the qb and play the run on the way to the qb.
That concept fails against zone running teams.

When 2 OL and a TE all get free releases to block LBs and the LB are moving sideways, that's going to fail regardless who is playing LB.

It means the DL only occupied 3 OL.
 

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At 255 lbs he needs to be in the middle, besides, if he's on the weak side and the play is to the strong side, he's going to have to run nearly across the entire field to get in on the tackle, at Mike he can cover on both sides.

But that's fine, never fails, when someone can't change somebody else's mind, they just throw out the insults, doesn't bother me but I'm sure able to recognize it. Love to discuss NFL football and the Cowboys, but you want to discuss, just berate.

Sad.

I'm convinced that Jaylon was well over 250 in 2019. Roster weight listings are notoriously inaccurate but studying game footage and seeing Jaylon in street closes next to Quinn, he definitely appeared bigger than his 245 pound listed weight.
 

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so they're going to take away his ability to do the things he does best like cover backs out of the backfield and run sideline to sideline. don't see this as a good thing.

No, the LB assignments are different in the Mike Nolan defense than in the Marinelli defense.

The OLB(s) often play up on or near the line and truly outside much like a 3-4 OLB alignment.

The MLB is a pure off-ball LB.

In the Marinelli scheme there was not a huge difference between MLB and OLB, especially in Nickel which they played about 70% of the snaps. The assignments were often dictated by right/left as much as anything. The WLB did have somewhat more coverage responsibilities but it was not an extreme difference.
 
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