Jane Slater: Player has concern that Dak panics when 1st read not there

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I remember the announcers talking about how good he was going through his reads earlier in the season. If he has the time he has the ability.

There may be an argument he's not fast enough in going through them. And I think it is definitely apparent he has a real issues with disguised coverages.
 

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I remember the announcers talking about how good he was going through his reads earlier in the season. If he has the time he has the ability.

There may be an argument he's not fast enough in going through them. And I think it is definitely apparent he has a real issues with disguised coverages.
That's just it, the O line is trash, the running game is embarrassing at best. No one wants to break down the issues. It's too much work. Pollard barely broke 50 yards in a playoff game. Why is Dak throwing 60 times?
 

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Jon Machota. @jonmachota

The Cowboys had open locker room and a team meeting today. Jourdan Lewis, KaVontae Turpin and T.J. Bass spoke with reporters.


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So I take it the 'unnamed' player is one of these three? My guess is Turpin. I may have to buy his jersey lol
That's some leadership and accountability in that locker room if after a season ending loss, the only ones available to reporters are the nickel corner, a backup rookie guard and the fifth WR/kick returner. There's some people in that room who only want to face the music after a win. That's pitiful.
 

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He struggles against good defenses. As someone noted in another thread, he feasted upon defenses that had average to below average opposing passer ratings but struggled against ones with good pass defenses. Isn't that fairly obvious at this point?

He's a good QB. But he clearly has a ceiling and unfortunately, that ceiling seems to be what we saw in the postseason again this year.
The playoffs are just too big for him.
 

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Dak exhibiting anxiety/panic issues when the heat is on is not exactly breaking news.

I feel bad for the guy.
I suffer from that too. I have a lot of sympathy for him. Maybe some teams only care about making the playoffs. Dak would be a good QB for them but we have higher ambitions.
 

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Any news here ?

We know that now for more than 8 years. The guy is a pre snap one read QB. If its not there or he needs to make a read after the snap the play is dead.

MM does a great job by giving him plays where he just needs to read one player then throw it to the designated receiver. But the best coach can only do so much. When defenses are able to take away his primary target and are able to disguise their scheme or change from zone to man during the play Prescott is done.

You cant scheme everything. When competition gets better you also need players who are able to step up their game. Prescott cant. He already plays up to his limit against medicore defenses.

He is what he is. A bad NFL QB.

And this is nothing against Dak. Its not his fault that he was given the contract he got.
Its our superb FO and our HC who decided to hand him the reigns. This is also Will McClay who had a saying in drafting him and handing out that second contract i am sure about that.
 

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What the hell are you even talking about?

"Misleading" how?

Since YOU brought up regular season games, does he get credit for the good games he played in as well? Or those don't count because of what happened in the playoffs?

He went 12-5 and was excellent overall in doing so.

There's no such thing as an All-Pro QB who isn't a very good QB, but it's cute when know-nothing fans try to pretend otherwise. I'll give you that.

"Make Dak beat you and you'll win".... we literally led the league in scoring with a mediocre run game. How do you think that happened?

Who can you credit for that while still being able to trash the QB with an NFL-high 36 passing TDs?

I remember when you used to say it was all Zeke LMAAOOO!
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Yeah, Dak looks great against the Giants and Commanders. He puts up great stats which impressed fans that don’t know better. At this point, you are embarrassing yourself. I see no point in arguing with fans that can’t understand how Dak’s stats are always against weak teams. When is the last time that he put up big stats against a top defense? Four straight years of Dak having a meltdown and you are still defending him. What a joke.
 

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There were multiple games this season where dak progressed through all his reads and made big plays. There’s so much to criticize dak for, he absolutely sucked yesterday but the 1 read or first read stuff is just silly fodder for fans looking for something
True, that is what is so frustrating for me and why I call him bi-polar Dak.

Some games he looks all world, others he looks like a lost rookie.

Included in those "other" games are high pressure playoff games.

When his eyes get as big as saucers, he's in panic mode and his brain doesn't process things as well.
 

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Dak exhibiting anxiety/panic issues when the heat is on is not exactly breaking news.

I feel bad for the guy.
I don't feel bad at all! Dude held out for money and thinks he is all that when all along he is that turd that just won't flush.
Those fans in that stadium should of started a big fire in the parking lot and burned Daks jersey while freaking rioting.
 

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Watching the all-22 cutups that are now starting to come out, I can't really blame Dak. He didn't have any WRs open. GB was taking away his first read, and #2 and #3 were usually covered too.

Even the seam shot he hit to Ferguson, which was the only decent pass play we had all first half, was a well-covered and risky throw.
 

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Yeah, Dak looks great against the Giants and Commanders. He puts up great stats which impressed fans that don’t know better. At this point, you are embarrassing yourself. I see no point in arguing with fans that can’t understand how Dak’s stats are always against weak teams. When is the last time that he put up big stats against a top defense? Four straight years of Dak having a meltdown and you are still defending him. What a joke.
How many QBs "put up big stats against top defenses" this season? Name them all. Go right ahead!

You clearly don't watch any NFL football outside of the Cowboys.
:laugh::laugh::laugh:

I literally started posting in this thread about how awful Dak was against Green Bay, but yeah, I'm totally defending his playoff loss.

You're a know-nothing joke, just like you've always been.

What kind of dolt would even try to argue that a QB who led the league in TDs and was an All-Pro didn't have a good regular season???

Dak will be our starting QB next year and you'll still be miserable. That's a nice consolation prize.

Psst... Dak was great vs the Jets "top defense", unlike every other top QB the Jets faced. Now go run along and move the goalposts, little man.
:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2::lmao2::lmao2:
 

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Can it also be true that this is pretty much who he's always been? (Feast on marginal teams when stakes are low and shrink like George Costanza in a hot tub when the lights get bright)

Why the venom all year towards people who reminded everyone of this?
He was literally an All-Pro QB this regular season.

If you're trashing him for his play before the Green Bay game, you're wrong. Period.

I'm sorry if you're not man enough to admit Dak was excellent in the regular season. Making excuses for an All-Pro season is legitimately hilarious.

Were the lights bright vs the Bucs in the playoffs last year? Was the 2nd Eagles game this year a "big game" on national TV?

Or are we moving the goalposts on what "bright lights" means because Dak was terrific in those games and Dallas won?
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Also, the more I think about it--I'm not buying this "realist" angle.

I remember a post you made midseason when the team was rolling (I think it got deleted because it came off the rails fast) but you posted the question "Who deserves the credit for this Cowboys dominant stretch" and I don't remember you talking team game then. We had the 5th ranked defense this year in yards allowed, don't recall you mentioning that. Don't remember you mentioning Daron Bland setting a single season record for pick 6's. Or talking about Cee Dee Lamb having one of the greatest years in Cowboy receiver history. Or McCarthy making the offense more comfortable for Dak to run.

Nope, I remember clear as day your answer on who deserves the credit: "Dak Mother ****** Prescott, that's who!"
I remember a lot of emoji laden posts telling "haters" to eat it and reminding them (with glee) that Dak was about to be the highest paid player in NFL history.
I remember a lot of "durrr, durr, durrrr" type nonsense which had nothing to do with legit discussion.

It wasn't "realism". It was a blatant attempt to flame, and fine, that's your right. It's a free country. There are guys on both sides of this debate that do this.

But you know what I Think? I think you didn't see any of what happened Sunday coming, despite that fact that many of us tried to tell you. You were genuinely shocked because you really thought this year was going to end up different and you doubled down on that all year.

You were not sure what to do. And so now--you can't deny the obvious--you're retreating to some "realist" safe space that you are trying to create, while spreading around as much blame as possible away from Dak in the process.

Sorry, not buying it. Dak will get his extension (unfortunately), and by next season we'll have 8 months of Jerry telling us how this year is going to be different. Dak will tell us too. Coaches will get fired, players will get let go, maybe a FA or two is added, lather, rinse, repeat. And by August, it's going to be time for Dak to finally show us how incredible he is.

And you'll be here, come week 1, with the same old schtick acting like anything but a "realist". Until (apologies to Jake Ferguson) the "wheels fall off" again.
Nobody is buying your realist trope, friend. At this point, just like Dak after 8 years, you are who you are. Embrace it.
You're a weirdo.

Not reading this novel.
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And no, my thread wasn't about "this dominant stretch", it was literally about the offense being ranked among the very best in football.

It was a Dak thread. You clowns used to dismiss his success as "it's all Zeke and the OL!" but now you can't even do that because Pollard regressed so much. Too funny.

Dak was excellent in the regular season and I pointed that out.

The stats bear that out, the accolades bear that out, and the MVP odds bear that out.

Dak was awful in the playoff game and I pointed that out.

I'm sorry that I'm right more often than you are?
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But you'll also have to agree that for the past three years we've gone out with Dak not able to step up. The two SF loses, he had the ball in his hands and failed to win/tie both games. The argument about Dak is diluted when fans bring up regular season performance.....that doesnt matter, it's his abilities in the play-offs that count. Time and time again he comes up short with the weight of expectation, which is compounded as soon as something goes wrong.

But to your final point, yes it's not all on him, however, he's paid a high % of the CAP and doesnt deliver.
No, he couldn't play great vs the best defense in football (49ers) without any semblance of a run game.

Not nearly as big an indictment as you think it is.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

The Green Bay loss? Zero excuse. He totally choked in the 1st half.
 
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