Jared Goff - oh he is good

[Risen Star]

The Browns are the only team ahead of us likely to take a QB. The Niners might be willing to leap frog us to get one though.

We won't be taking a QB.

How do I know? Because it's the smart thing to do (if the scouting grade is there) and I have complete confidence in our front office's inability to ever do the smart thing.

Rather than build for the future our offseason fixation will be how to squeeze one or two more years of a competitive team with Romo. And when that doesn't work, "well, bleep...we really screwed ourselves here but we hear your complaints and don't worry, my son and I are on it."

 

[Doomsday]

We won't be taking a QB.

How do I know? Because it's the smart thing to do (if the scouting grade is there) and I have complete confidence in our front office's inability to ever do the smart thing.

Rather than build for the future our offseason fixation will be how to squeeze one or two more years of a competitive team with Romo. And when that doesn't work, "well, bleep...we really screwed ourselves here but we hear your complaints and don't worry, my son and I are on it."

I know, logic tells me Jerry will draft to win now while ignoring the future but I cant help but dream

I am still holding out hope that Stephen can pull some of his magic and talk his Dad into doing the right thing.

This article game me a little hope as well. http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...wboys-thinking-drafting-qb-future-almost-2014

 

[Risen Star]

I know, logic tells me Jerry will draft to win now while ignoring the future but I cant help but dream

I am still holding out hope that Stephen can pull some of his magic and talk his Dad into doing the right thing.

This article game me a little hope as well. http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...wboys-thinking-drafting-qb-future-almost-2014

Oh, yes....the all knowing and wise Stephen Jones.

One day we will all enjoy his brilliance free of the restraints of his father.

 

[btcutter]

Looks like Nick Foles to me. Not a fan.

Wentz is much more interesting to me physically and as a field general, but accuracy is not great. Passable at his level but don't really like him that much either.

Paxton Lynch wagon all the way. Or Kiel on day 2.

I've never seen an inaccurate QB in college become accurate in NFL. Either you got timing or not. You may improve by a 2-3 percentage but never by 10%. Therefore, I would never pick an inaccurate college QB in hope of making him an accurate NFL passer. IMO.

 

[Leadbelly]

I've never seen an inaccurate QB in college become accurate in NFL. Either you got timing or not. You may improve by a 2-3 percentage but never by 10%. Therefore, I would never pick an inaccurate college QB in hope of making him an accurate NFL passer. IMO.

Yep. I feel same. Conor Cook wouldn't even be on my radar. Three year starter and even inside 5 yards he's not on target -- 59% in 2013 to 58% to 57% in 2015.

Sometimes a guy is raw and has correctable mechanical issues. Lynch developed from 58% to 70% completion. Russell Wilson was not accurate at NC St (55% passer) but corrected some mechanics at Wisconsin to a 70+% rate. Solid accuracy as a pro. Wentz might be in that category with his limited experience, but not a lot of time in the pros to make a QB once a season starts.

 

[Killerinstinct]

Big wind up and rainbow throws. Not impressed.

 

[Doomsday]

Oh, yes....the all knowing and wise Stephen Jones.

One day we will all enjoy his brilliance free of the restraints of his father.

The difference between Stephen and Jerry is, Jerry thinks he has an eye for talent, and is a scout. I see Stephen as some one who is willing to listen and lean on the guys around him. I would be willing to bet that Jason had Stephen's ear when it came to drafting Martin over Manziel. Maybe I am wrong but I dont think he is going to let marketing drive his decisions as much as his Dad does.

 

[bayeslife]

We won't be taking a QB.

How do I know? Because it's the smart thing to do (if the scouting grade is there) and I have complete confidence in our front office's inability to ever do the smart thing.

Rather than build for the future our offseason fixation will be how to squeeze one or two more years of a competitive team with Romo. And when that doesn't work, "well, bleep...we really screwed ourselves here but we hear your complaints and don't worry, my son and I are on it."

Do you pass on QB if an elite defensive player is there?

 

[Risen Star]

The difference between Stephen and Jerry is, Jerry thinks he has an eye for talent, and is a scout. I see Stephen as some one who is willing to listen and lean on the guys around him. I would be willing to bet that Jason had Stephen's ear when it came to drafting Martin over Manziel. Maybe I am wrong but I dont think he is going to let marketing drive his decisions as much as his Dad does.

Yes, because what I want in a GM is someone who lets a coach tell him who to draft.

Super excited about the future.

 

[Risen Star]

Do you pass on QB if an elite defensive player is there?

Do I pass on a QB over any similarly rated player? No. The QB trumps all. I'll trade you an entire pro bowl DL for a franchise QB.

 

[btcutter]

Yep. I feel same. Conor Cook wouldn't even be on my radar. Three year starter and even inside 5 yards he's not on target -- 59% in 2013 to 58% to 57% in 2015.

Sometimes a guy is raw and has correctable mechanical issues. Lynch developed from 58% to 70% completion. Russell Wilson was not accurate at NC St (55% passer) but corrected some mechanics at Wisconsin to a 70+% rate. Solid accuracy as a pro. Wentz might be in that category with his limited experience, but not a lot of time in the pros to make a QB once a season starts.

If you can't increase your completion percentage in college then there's little chance you'll do that as a pro. I would certainly not use a top pick for QB that I have to teach to drastically improve accuracy. I may take a flier later round but not a top 2 round pick.

 

[bayeslife]

Do I pass on a QB over any similarly rated player? No. The QB trumps all. I'll trade you an entire pro bowl DL for a franchise QB.

I understand what you mean I guess it's just hard for me to swallow passing up a Bosa or Ramsey or Hargreaves for someone who won't be starting next year. Not that he won't get his chances to play.

 

[dallasdave]

Do I pass on a QB over any similarly rated player? No. The QB trumps all. I'll trade you an entire pro bowl DL for a franchise QB.

 

[dallasdave]

Oh, yes....the all knowing and wise Stephen Jones.

One day we will all enjoy his brilliance free of the restraints of his father.

 

[sureletsrace]

Do I pass on a QB over any similarly rated player? No. The QB trumps all. I'll trade you an entire pro bowl DL for a franchise QB.

You get it. /clap

 

[Macnalty]

If you like Matt Ryan than you probably like this guy, his ceiling is Ryan IMO. This is our pick for franchise QB do you actually want to use a first on him? I think it is like buying a pair of shoes that are too small for your foot, you will pay the price for years of not waiting for proper fit.
If you think this guy is the franchise player I understand, I am not there yet on watching him play.
In my mind I have Cook, and Lynch ahead of him and the shoe is still tight.

 

[sbark]

I've never seen an inaccurate QB in college become accurate in NFL. Either you got timing or not. You may improve by a 2-3 percentage but never by 10%. Therefore, I would never pick an inaccurate college QB in hope of making him an accurate NFL passer. IMO.

Wentz.....63 plus percent accuracy in his 2014 season.....Romo, Rogers and Peyton are all in the 65% carreer......there is your 2-3 percentage points needed

.Dan the Mans Scouting has no concerns with his accuracy. If anything--improve his footwork and mechanics it will move up........

..........now that being said, I've seen a lot of spread offense shotgun QBs come out of college and cannot hit for percentage for the life of them, the kid from West Texas kept on the roster is a case in point, The only success story the Spread offense QB school has in the NFL is D. Carr..........1 out of what....dozens.... Not worth taking the risk on with a top 10 pick.

 

[sureletsrace]

Wentz.....63 plus percent accuracy in his 2014 season.....Romo, Rogers and Peyton are all in the 65% carreer......there is your 2-3 percentage points needed

.Dan the Mans Scouting has no concerns with his accuracy. If anything--improve his footwork and mechanics it will move up........

..........now that being said, I've seen a lot of spread offense shotgun QBs come out of college and cannot hit for percentage for the life of them, the kid from West Texas kept on the roster is a case in point, The only success story the Spread offense QB school has in the NFL is D. Carr..........1 out of what....dozens.... Not worth taking the risk on with a top 10 pick.

It's really a shame that there are so few pocket passing, progression reading QBs coming out of college nowadays.

I'm really curious what iteration the NFL will evolve into next. With so many colleges running the spread and read option style offense, at some point the NFL is going to change too.

 

[Risen Star]

Wentz.....63 plus percent accuracy in his 2014 season.....Romo, Rogers and Peyton are all in the 65% carreer......there is your 2-3 percentage points needed

.Dan the Mans Scouting has no concerns with his accuracy. If anything--improve his footwork and mechanics it will move up........

..........now that being said, I've seen a lot of spread offense shotgun QBs come out of college and cannot hit for percentage for the life of them, the kid from West Texas kept on the roster is a case in point, The only success story the Spread offense QB school has in the NFL is D. Carr..........1 out of what....dozens.... Not worth taking the risk on with a top 10 pick.

Sometimes I read posts here and I'm embarrassed for us.

 

[sbark]

Sometimes I read posts here and I'm embarrassed for us.

It is what it is with college spread offense QBs................Like Parcells said---you are what you are until you prove otherwise: and D.Carr is the only one that has broken the chains of CSO training, others show flashes (tannelhill, manzeil)............that equates to what ...a 5% of NFL success when drafting a CSO QB