Jarrett dropping...

[Chuck 54]

i dont know about prepared. u get prepared in training camp. my issue with him is size. i dont think he could take the hits given in the nfc east

Prepared....as in he hasn't been playing football that long and doesn't do much but run the deep route...that's what I read, not what I've seen. He was their big play guy, but not a go to receiver...that's why I'd prefer Jarrett.

As for all the guys who are so high on Hurd, Austin, and Crayton, I think they are homers for sure.

Crayton and Hurd may or may not someday be able to play as #2 and #3 receivers...but there are no guarantees....Crayton has good hands but has a hard time staying healthy and disappears when needed the most over the past couple of years....add that to Parcells claim that he has a hard time remembering or performing at a high level unless he's out there every day, and I don't see a guy who should be expected to be a starter. Hurd and Austin didn't get on the field enough to do much of anything besides special teams....it would be worth gambling if we were only watching 1 starter get long in the tooth, but with both most likely to start declining in the next couple of years, I would jump all over a guy like Jarrett who is young, who runs great routes, who got much more physical and DID beat press coverage the last half of the year and who makes the tough catches in traffic as well.

You land a guy like Jarrett and you have one of your starters for the next generation of Cowboys, be it #1 or #2.

Personally, I think Jarrett's game translates to what we're used to seeing from Irvin more than anyone I've seen coming out in a long time....runs good routes and gets YAC....to me that was Irvin when he was at the U....he was not the top WR in his class either....I know Sterling Sharp went first among WR's that year, and I'm thinking Irvin went 3rd, but I can't remember who the other WR was that year...I could be wrong.

 

[Manster54]

Crayton and Hurd may or may not someday be able to play as #2 and #3 receivers...but there are no guarantees....Crayton has good hands but has a hard time staying healthy and disappears when needed the most over the past couple of years....add that to Parcells claim that he has a hard time remembering or performing at a high level unless he's out there every day, and I don't see a guy who should be expected to be a starter. Hurd and Austin didn't get on the field enough to do much of anything besides special teams....it would be worth gambling if we were only watching 1 starter get long in the tooth, but with both most likely to start declining in the next couple of years, I would jump all over a guy like Jarrett who is young, who runs great routes, who got much more physical and DID beat press coverage the last half of the year and who makes the tough catches in traffic as well.

O.K. Valid point.

You land a guy like Jarrett and you have one of your starters for the next generation of Cowboys, be it #1 or #2.

Pretty big leap of faith, IMHO.

Personally, I think Jarrett's game translates to what we're used to seeing from Irvin more than anyone I've seen coming out in a long time....runs good routes and gets YAC....to me that was Irvin when he was at the U....he was not the top WR in his class either....I know Sterling Sharp went first among WR's that year, and I'm thinking Irvin went 3rd, but I can't remember who the other WR was that year...I could be wrong.[/quote]

I think Irvin was faster and was more of a deep ball threat right out of college.

 

[adamknite]

Anquan Boldin ran a 4.7 also. 40 yard time isn't everything.

and fell to the second round, wasn't even the first WR the Cardinals took. I'm not one of those guys that thinks 40 times are the best stat for a player, I'm saying coaches and scouts seem to think that a not quite as fast 40 time means they aren't worth anything, even though a month ago the player was considered to be a top 10 pick.

 

[speedkilz88]

Crayton and Hurd may or may not someday be able to play as #2 and #3 receivers...but there are no guarantees....Crayton has good hands but has a hard time staying healthy and disappears when needed the most over the past couple of years....add that to Parcells claim that he has a hard time remembering or performing at a high level unless he's out there every day, and I don't see a guy who should be expected to be a starter. Hurd and Austin didn't get on the field enough to do much of anything besides special teams....it would be worth gambling if we were only watching 1 starter get long in the tooth, but with both most likely to start declining in the next couple of years, I would jump all over a guy like Jarrett who is young, who runs great routes, who got much more physical and DID beat press coverage the last half of the year and who makes the tough catches in traffic as well.

O.K. Valid point.

You land a guy like Jarrett and you have one of your starters for the next generation of Cowboys, be it #1 or #2.

Pretty big leap of faith, IMHO.

Personally, I think Jarrett's game translates to what we're used to seeing from Irvin more than anyone I've seen coming out in a long time....runs good routes and gets YAC....to me that was Irvin when he was at the U....he was not the top WR in his class either....I know Sterling Sharp went first among WR's that year, and I'm thinking Irvin went 3rd, but I can't remember who the other WR was that year...I could be wrong.

I think Irvin was faster and was more of a deep ball threat right out of college.

I think it was Tim Brown that went first that year.

 

[Jake0]

As of right now I think I'd rather have Robert Meachem if he's still there. Why isn't he getting more attention after his combine results? All of his drills looked good and when he was interviewed you could tell he was a hard worker.

I think we should go WR in round 1 though, the sheer amount of talent in this year's draft at the position should make the 22nd pick have WR as the BPA and it will be a need very soon... if not this year with an injury or two.

 

[big dog cowboy]

As of right now I think I'd rather have Robert Meachem if he's still there. Why isn't he getting more attention after his combine results? All of his drills looked good and when he was interviewed you could tell he was a hard worker.

I think we should go WR in round 1 though, the sheer amount of talent in this year's draft at the position should make the 22nd pick have WR as the BPA and it will be a need very soon... if not this year with an injury or two.

After today, I really like that kid also. I didn't really know anything about him before. Even my wife said "man he looks fast" when he ran his 40. He'd look good with a star.

 

[Hostile]

As of right now I think I'd rather have Robert Meachem if he's still there. Why isn't he getting more attention after his combine results? All of his drills looked good and when he was interviewed you could tell he was a hard worker.

I think we should go WR in round 1 though, the sheer amount of talent in this year's draft at the position should make the 22nd pick have WR as the BPA and it will be a need very soon... if not this year with an injury or two.

What were his Combine results?

He is the WR I like best after Calvin Johnson.

 

[The Realist]

What were his Combine results?

He is the WR I like best after Calvin Johnson.

4.39, 37.5 vert and 11.3 long shuttle.

We may not have a chance to get him which is fine by me.

 

[Hostile]

4.39, 37.5 vert and 11.3 long shuttle.

We may not have a chance to get him which is fine by me.

Very nice numbers. Kid is going to rise up Draft boards now. Shucks. Would have been nice, though I doubt we're looking WR in round 1.

 

[the kid 05]

screw that

:signmast:

 

[jobberone]

have you watched him at all?

he's pretty good, I see him all the time in SEC country...there's a reason Spurrier was extremely disappointed this guy didnt come back

David

Well I graduated from Carolina and watch as many games as I can including still going some. So yes I've seen him since his first year and have pretty good inside knowledge of him.

I'd spend a first round pick on him if I needed a WR which we don't. I wouldn't pick him in the top ten but would start thinking about him 15 and lower.

 

[diehard2294]

did anyone happen to see when he gets pressed at the line he has trouble getting out into his route,I dont think we will go WR early,I believe JJ thinks we have enough young talent already

 

[iceberg]

Just heard on NFL network that Jarrett is not running at the combine because he ran in the mid 4.7 40's in his camp. Ouch....if there's any truth to this, he'll be dropping to the bottom of 1st maybe even into the 2nd. He will start to remind people of Mike Williams....

Do we need him at 22??? I wouldn't. WR's without ability to separate from CB's are not worth a 1st.

so where does it say if you run a 4.7 40 you can't get seperation? how fast was irvin?

 

[theogt]

and fell to the second round, wasn't even the first WR the Cardinals took. I'm not one of those guys that thinks 40 times are the best stat for a player, I'm saying coaches and scouts seem to think that a not quite as fast 40 time means they aren't worth anything, even though a month ago the player was considered to be a top 10 pick.

You'd be amazed at the statistics they have on historical picks. For example, you can take a hypothetical 6'2, 210 wide reciever that ran a 4.6 and the scouts can give you percentages of rounds those guys are taken, career stats, etc. Sure there are outliers like Boldin or Colston, but these guys are in the business of playing the percentages hitting on 7 out of 10 guesses.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Man, it would be hard for me to pass on this guy.......he is a playmaker

GOOD POINT

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Anquan Boldin ran a 4.7 also. 40 yard time isn't everything.

GOOD POINT