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People put too much stock into the combine and 40 times. If he is available at 22, and the BPA, take him. He can make plays, and you dont always need great 40 time to be a good WR in the NFL. Speed doesnt always equal separation.
 

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Boldin was around a year and half removed from knee surgery when he ran that 40......he's more of a physical guy
 

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Zman5;1391480 said:
Anquan Boldin ran a 4.7 also. 40 yard time isn't everything.

Boldin sleeps faster than a 4.7 40. I'm a FSU fan and I saw him beat the best corners in college and he's still doin it in the pro's. Some people just don't time well but man they sure do play fast. That being said, Jarrett is not one of those players. He made plays in college but he was always covered or nearly so. In the pro's that won't happen. I remember saying these same things when Mike Williams was coming out and Jarrett is the same player with a different name. Mark my words... If we draft him we will regret it. If you want someone with Jaretts hands, size, and playmaking ability but be able to be explosive and seperate see Sidney Rice. That's my pick. :bow:
 

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starfrombirth;1391553 said:
Boldin sleeps faster than a 4.7 40. I'm a FSU fan and I saw him beat the best corners in college and he's still doin it in the pro's. Some people just don't time well but man they sure do play fast. That being said, Jarrett is not one of those players. He made plays in college but he was always covered or nearly so. In the pro's that won't happen. I remember saying these same things when Mike Williams was coming out and Jarrett is the same player with a different name. Mark my words... If we draft him we will regret it. If you want someone with Jaretts hands, size, and playmaking ability but be able to be explosive and seperate see Sidney Rice. That's my pick. :bow:

jarrett didnt beat the best corners?
 

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LatinMind;1391557 said:
jarrett didnt beat the best corners?

He beat them by making great catches in traffic (I didn't say he didn't have good hands). But he was hardly ever wide open. If your covered in college your shut down in the nfl. Sorry but it's true. Don't believe me? Go back and look at tape from Mike Williams and then of Jarrett. If you didn't know who you were looking at you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. :star:
 

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starfrombirth;1391563 said:
He beat them by making great catches in traffic (I didn't say he didn't have good hands). But he was hardly ever wide open. If your covered in college your shut down in the nfl. Sorry but it's true. Don't believe me? Go back and look at tape from Mike Williams and then of Jarrett. If you didn't know who you were looking at you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. :star:
i dont think anybody ever said jarrett was a speed wr. he's more of a keyshawn type. not mike williams. jarrett isnt overweight, and isnt lazy. u seem more like a bitter usc hater more then anything else with the statements u've made. get over it.
 

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starfrombirth;1391563 said:
He beat them by making great catches in traffic (I didn't say he didn't have good hands). But he was hardly ever wide open. If your covered in college your shut down in the nfl. Sorry but it's true. Don't believe me? Go back and look at tape from Mike Williams and then of Jarrett. If you didn't know who you were looking at you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. :star:


Your wrong, he did get "wide open" not by being blazing fast but by being smart and a great route runner. What would you rather have a chicken with his head cut off running sloppy/wrong routes, or a guy who takes care and runs routes like jerry rice did.

i'll take the precise route runner, and if jarrett is there at 22 so will dallas.
 

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Break out Jerry Rice's 40 time. Or Emmitt Smith's. Dwayne Jarret dominated most of the CB's he played against. The one time Michigan had Leon Hall on Jarret he torched him for a TD.
 

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Mayock also showed clips of Jarrett at USC. Whenever corners played off coverage he had pretty good success, but when a corner played press he couldn't separate. They did say that wrs can learn and are always working to get better against press and Mayock still listed Jarrett as his 5th ranked wr. Jarrett also when interviewed claimed that he didn't run because of a slight groin injury and that he expects to run a 4.4-4.45 on his pro day.
 

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I think we have young talent to develop already on the roster in Hurd & Austin. Plus we have Crayton. At 22, I think the 'Boys should just take the best player available on OL.
 

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I've always thought Michigan DBs were pretty fast but I guess not since slow Jarrett out ran their DBs (4) on one of his TD run during Rose Bowl.

As an avid USC fan, I've followed USC for a very long time and Jarrett is a great WR. Yes, he does not possess a blazing speed but his precise route running enables him to separate from his defenders and he has set of sure hands, he has made some amazing catches along the way of PAC-10 record setting performance. I'd take him in a heartbeat but I just don't see him falling down to #22.
 

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Manster54;1391633 said:
I think we have young talent to develop already on the roster in Hurd & Austin. Plus we have Crayton. At 22, I think the 'Boys should just take the best player available on OL.

Jarrett will be > Hurd IMO
Jarrett will be > Austin IMO
Jarrett will be > crayton IMO.....

if jarrett is there at 22 Dallas should take him....with that being said hurd, austin, and crayton are good young talents but i don't think we should put all our chips on them...

I also think if steve smith is there for us in the third and we haven't picked a WR yet than we should get him, thats only if Paul Williams is gone by then, otherwise I want Williams...
 

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btcutter;1391411 said:
In college but can he do it in the pros? Mike Williams did that in college too....
this statement is really mind-scratching. because the same could be said about every draft pick.
why is it just being said for jarret? usc haters
 

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I read on NFL.com that jarrett and Gin weren't running due to injuries...they listed guys who were hurt and guys who just chose not to run.

I saw enough of Jarrett to know that 4.7 is wrong, unless, like Bolden, he simply has absolutely no track skills at all. He ran by CB's and was seldom caught from behind....so I put no stock in that # or report. I'd love to have him....Gin, Jr. I'm not really interested in because he's fast but totally not prepared for the NFL.
 

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wayne_motley;1391645 said:
I read on NFL.com that jarrett and Gin weren't running due to injuries...they listed guys who were hurt and guys who just chose not to run.

I saw enough of Jarrett to know that 4.7 is wrong, unless, like Bolden, he simply has absolutely no track skills at all. He ran by CB's and was seldom caught from behind....so I put no stock in that # or report. I'd love to have him....Gin, Jr. I'm not really interested in because he's fast but totally not prepared for the NFL.

i dont know about prepared. u get prepared in training camp. my issue with him is size. i dont think he could take the hits given in the nfc east
 

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btcutter;1391411 said:
In college but can he do it in the pros? Mike Williams did that in college too....

and Williams was a knucklehead with an extremely poor work ethic..he also got out of shape

Jarrett isnt like Williams in those regards

David
 

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As much as I hate to say it, I think the Eagles have got it right. In the early rounds, they draft linemen and more linemen. If you can protect and apply pressure, you win. We need OL in a badm way and even if Jarret was there at 22, I would take the best OL available. I think Hurd is going to make some noise this year.
 

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Sidney Rice is not fast, not polished but does use his strengths well for his age and experience. He should probably have stayed this year at Carolina.

However, I'm not predicting how well or poorly he will do. He may become a very good WR. But we don't need to spend a #1 on a WR IMO. Not with Glenn and TO on the team.
 

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03EBZ06;1391637 said:
I've always thought Michigan DBs were pretty fast but I guess not since slow Jarrett out ran their DBs (4) on one of his TD run during Rose Bowl.

As an avid USC fan, I've followed USC for a very long time and Jarrett is a great WR. Yes, he does not possess a blazing speed but his precise route running enables him to separate from his defenders and he has set of sure hands, he has made some amazing catches along the way of PAC-10 record setting performance. I'd take him in a heartbeat but I just don't see him falling down to #22.

I agree, I think Jarrett is gonna be a pretty good NFL WR...the kind of guy that will put up 75-85 catches and 1200 yds a yr

David
 

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jobberone;1391652 said:
Sidney Rice is not fast, not polished but does use his strengths well for his age and experience. He should probably have stayed this year at Carolina.

However, I'm not predicting how well or poorly he will do. He may become a very good WR. But we don't need to spend a #1 on a WR IMO. Not with Glenn and TO on the team.

have you watched him at all?

he's pretty good, I see him all the time in SEC country...there's a reason Spurrier was extremely disappointed this guy didnt come back

David
 
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