Jason Garrett, Will McClay, and the Future

[sureletsrace]

Do you trust Jason Garrett, Will McClay, the scouting department, and really the organization as a whole in regards to finding Romo's successor?

On one hand, we have the organization that took 10 years to go from Troy Aikman to Tony Romo. We have the complete lack of even trying to get a guy in here to develop. We also have a lack of using any respectable amount of resources on drafting at this position, or even acquiring someone through Free Agency.

On the other, we have Will McClay, who has really been drafting well. We also have Jason Garrett, who showed interest in drafting Andy Dalton in 2011. He was picked by Cincinnati 5 picks before the Cowboys picked, who wound up drafting Bruce Carter. I remember Jason Garrett really having wanted Andy Dalton. One could argue that Andy Dalton is the best quarterback in the last 5 years not drafted in the first round, except for Russell Wilson.

Where is the truth here? Are we really inept at finding talent, or are we actually good at finding talent and haven't found the right guy yet?

Are we not even looking because we put too much faith in Romo's body and it's ability to hold up?

This is one of the more interesting dynamics and discussions for this team in my opinion, and probably the most important for the future success of the organization.

Do you think the Cowboys can see quarterback talent and want the right guy, or do you think they're rolling the dice against the future?

I'm not writing this to give an opinion. I want to hear yours. Everyone's.

 

[Wolfpack]

I think there is a very small percentage of the college QBs that have the skills and desire to be an NFL level QB let alone a good one. You have to evaluate a guy playing in a spread or read option type system most likely and that never is quite the same as the typical Pro system. Then you have to figure out if he is smart enough to read the complex defenses and coverages that will be thrown at him, again, on a whole new level past what most guys have seen. Then you are down to seeing if he is coachable and willing to spend the time to get better and learn the game. The typical kid has been big man on campus and hasn't had to really work for much so far in his career.

I think most scouts are flying blind on everything other than arm and measurables. You have to keep getting them in camp and see if you can get one to stick, i think its a numbers game.

For Dallas specifically, I think the Jones's have been ok taking the gamble on Romo and trying to use resources on the many other holes on the team. They've specifically said that they don't want to draft someone and spend the time to develop them, only to loose them to another team. I think that is a poor attitude and hope this season opens some eyes to the bleak future post-Romo.

 

[Fletch]

I strongly believe we'll be drafting a QB next May. Hopefully one in the first three rounds.

Since Romo, the Cowboys have been putting all their stock into him and trying to add pieces around him. Now it's time to find his successor to groom behind him.

 

[DandyDon52]

They have done better recently, but guys like street and some others not so good.

Finding a QB in the draft is the hardest position to evaluate, and get a good one.
Having a guy sit too long is not a good thing, 1 year is the most I would sit a guy to learn.
After that playing is the only way they get good, and you see if they have it or not.

 

[waving monkey]

Garrett started rebuilding this team when he became head coach.
First there is was the offensive line that had to be rebuilt.
The defensive line then LB and mostly DB's.We got Dez ect.

Tony was our man and still relatively young when this began.
A high draft pick would have been wasted early on but it's getting time.

 

[xwalker]

Do you trust Jason Garrett, Will McClay, the scouting department, and really the organization as a whole in regards to finding Romo's successor?

On one hand, we have the organization that took 10 years to go from Troy Aikman to Tony Romo. We have the complete lack of even trying to get a guy in here to develop. We also have a lack of using any respectable amount of resources on drafting at this position, or even acquiring someone through Free Agency.

On the other, we have Will McClay, who has really been drafting well. We also have Jason Garrett, who showed interest in drafting Andy Dalton in 2011. He was picked by Cincinnati 5 picks before the Cowboys picked, who wound up drafting Bruce Carter. I remember Jason Garrett really having wanted Andy Dalton. One could argue that Andy Dalton is the best quarterback in the last 5 years not drafted in the first round, except for Russell Wilson.

Where is the truth here? Are we really inept at finding talent, or are we actually good at finding talent and haven't found the right guy yet?

Are we not even looking because we put too much faith in Romo's body and it's ability to hold up?

This is one of the more interesting dynamics and discussions for this team in my opinion, and probably the most important for the future success of the organization.

Do you think the Cowboys can see quarterback talent and want the right guy, or do you think they're rolling the dice against the future?

I'm not writing this to give an opinion. I want to hear yours. Everyone's.

I'm concerned now after the Weed failure that Jerry might try to force the issue. If they go into the draft with the idea that they must find a QB in THIS draft, then the chance of failure is high, IMO.

The best thing about likely having Romo for a few more years is that it gives them a few drafts to find the right QB and not have to focus on just 1 specific draft. Most teams wait until they are really bad and get a top 10 pick then go into the draft with QB as a must-have. That often leads to failed picks.

The biggest reason they had problems finding a QB between Aikman and Romo was because they never used a 1st round pick on a QB. They used a 2nd on Quincy because somebody outside the organization told Jerry he was good and they used a 3rd to get the rights to Drew Henson.

They were reported to like Brett Hundley in this past draft and he looked really good in the preseason games that I saw. In the 2 preseason games where he had more than 5 attempts, his QB rating was 112 and 142.

 

[Wood]

Do you trust Jason Garrett, Will McClay, the scouting department, and really the organization as a whole in regards to finding Romo's successor?

On one hand, we have the organization that took 10 years to go from Troy Aikman to Tony Romo. We have the complete lack of even trying to get a guy in here to develop. We also have a lack of using any respectable amount of resources on drafting at this position, or even acquiring someone through Free Agency.

On the other, we have Will McClay, who has really been drafting well. We also have Jason Garrett, who showed interest in drafting Andy Dalton in 2011. He was picked by Cincinnati 5 picks before the Cowboys picked, who wound up drafting Bruce Carter. I remember Jason Garrett really having wanted Andy Dalton. One could argue that Andy Dalton is the best quarterback in the last 5 years not drafted in the first round, except for Russell Wilson.

Where is the truth here? Are we really inept at finding talent, or are we actually good at finding talent and haven't found the right guy yet?

Are we not even looking because we put too much faith in Romo's body and it's ability to hold up?

This is one of the more interesting dynamics and discussions for this team in my opinion, and probably the most important for the future success of the organization.

Do you think the Cowboys can see quarterback talent and want the right guy, or do you think they're rolling the dice against the future?

I'm not writing this to give an opinion. I want to hear yours. Everyone's.

Jerry is probably too old to wait on hitting on young oil well. More likely scenario is Jerry leans on Will to find a proven NFL QB to replace Romo and pays handsomely for it.

 

[xwalker]

I strongly believe we'll be drafting a QB next May. Hopefully one in the first three rounds.

Since Romo, the Cowboys have been putting all their stock into him and trying to add pieces around him. Now it's time to find his successor to groom behind him.

They should not force it. They need to get a decent backup prior to the draft and then draft a QB is there is one that they really like.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I'm concerned now after the Weed failure that Jerry might try to force the issue. If they go into the draft with the idea that they must find a QB in THIS draft, then the chance of failure is high, IMO.

The best thing about likely having Romo for a few more years is that it gives them a few drafts to find the right QB and not have to focus on just 1 specific draft. Most teams wait until they are really bad and get a top 10 pick then go into the draft with QB as a must-have. That often leads to failed picks.

The biggest reason they had problems finding a QB between Aikman and Romo was because they never used a 1st round pick on a QB. They used a 2nd on Quincy because somebody outside the organization told Jerry he was good and they used a 3rd to get the rights to Drew Henson.

They were reported to like Brett Hundley in this past draft and he looked really good in the preseason games that I saw. In the 2 preseason games where he had more than 5 attempts, his QB rating was 112 and 142.

Wasnt just Hundley, they seemed to like every day 2 type QB. They had interest in Grayson, Petty and Mannion as well. All of whom would have been considered our future of the position if drafted.

Last year showed to me that they have begun looking at the QB position beyond Romo. They may not take one this year if the guys in the draft dont blow them away. But i think there is a better chance then last year as all the guys mentioned are fringe starting prospect while this class is much much deeper

 

[BHendri5]

I have a tremendous amount of faith/confidence in these guys when we draft another QB, whether it be this upcoming draft or the next

 

[xwalker]

Wasnt just Hundley, they seemed to like every day 2 type QB. They had interest in Grayson, Petty and Mannion as well. All of whom would have been considered our future of the position if drafted.

Last year showed to me that they have begun looking at the QB position beyond Romo. They may not take one this year if the guys in the draft dont blow them away. But i think there is a better chance then last year as all the guys mentioned are fringe starting prospect while this class is much much deeper

Those were pre-draft rumors from what I recall. It has been confirmed since the draft that Hundley was the later round guy they liked the most.

 

[Risen Star]

On the other, we have Will McClay,

Stop right there. I'm sold.

 

[texbumthelife]

I am struggling to find a single franchise who knowingly drafted their future QB while their current QB was still in his prime, outside of Green Bay. Almost everyone goes through a significant lapse of some sort, or they go aggressively after someone in Free Agency. Quarterback is the most difficult position to predict, obviously. I think they have genuinely wanted to and tried to address both potential starters and backups, but the chips just haven't fallen right.They wanted Garrapolo and Dalton but missed out. I think they sincerely believed Weeden would be a great back-up. He wasn't.

I think anyone sitting around coming up with some foggy ideas that the Cowboys have just chosen to ignore the QB position, hasn't really paid attention and/or doesn't understand how difficult it is.

Who replaces Peyton in Denver?
Who replaces Rodgers in Green Bay?
Who replaces Brees in New Orleans?

Quarterbacks don't grow on trees. Every one of these teams is looking at the same issues as we are. New England may even suffer if Garrapolo doesn't work out.

They have and will continue to try and address the Quarterback position, but not when it means handicapping a team that is very close to competing at a championship level right now.

The fact of the matter is, we have drafted and addressed Free Agency just about as well as possible the last several years. I am going to give the team the benefit of the doubt over the arm chair GM's on this one.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Do you trust Jason Garrett, Will McClay, the scouting department, and really the organization as a whole in regards to finding Romo's successor?

Yes. But I also know that you can't "hit" on every draft pick and that is the hardest position to draft for.

 

[JoeKing]

Romo signed his 6 year extension in 2013. The extension didn't go into effect until after the 2013 season so he will be the starting QB through the 2019 season. That's four more seasons folks. How long do we need to groom his replacement? I think only a couple of seasons is long enough to groom a guy that's really going to be any good. So we don't need to get that guy in here until the 2017 season. Until then, stop with the Romo replacement talk... it's way too early.

 

[conner01]

I'm concerned now after the Weed failure that Jerry might try to force the issue. If they go into the draft with the idea that they must find a QB in THIS draft, then the chance of failure is high, IMO.

The best thing about likely having Romo for a few more years is that it gives them a few drafts to find the right QB and not have to focus on just 1 specific draft. Most teams wait until they are really bad and get a top 10 pick then go into the draft with QB as a must-have. That often leads to failed picks.

The biggest reason they had problems finding a QB between Aikman and Romo was because they never used a 1st round pick on a QB. They used a 2nd on Quincy because somebody outside the organization told Jerry he was good and they used a 3rd to get the rights to Drew Henson.

They were reported to like Brett Hundley in this past draft and he looked really good in the preseason games that I saw. In the 2 preseason games where he had more than 5 attempts, his QB rating was 112 and 142.

I agree
Drafting a QB just to be drafting a QB is a recipe for failure
I just hope jerry can continue to draft the best player and not draft for any position
Many of the years people have wanted qb's there just wasn't qb's to take where we were
I would rather take a QB when there is a QB worth taking at the spot we are picking
There may be a time in the future you have to make a more urgent move but we are still a few years from that I think

 

[darthseinfeld]

Those were pre-draft rumors from what I recall. It has been confirmed since the draft that Hundley was the later round guy they liked the most.

They are guys that either visited or had workouts with

 

[ShiningStar]

Yes. But I also know that you can't "hit" on every draft pick and that is the hardest position to draft for.

Thats why they need to start now.

 

[LandryFan]

Do you trust Jason Garrett, Will McClay, the scouting department, and really the organization as a whole in regards to finding Romo's successor?

On one hand, we have the organization that took 10 years to go from Troy Aikman to Tony Romo. We have the complete lack of even trying to get a guy in here to develop. We also have a lack of using any respectable amount of resources on drafting at this position, or even acquiring someone through Free Agency.

On the other, we have Will McClay, who has really been drafting well. We also have Jason Garrett, who showed interest in drafting Andy Dalton in 2011. He was picked by Cincinnati 5 picks before the Cowboys picked, who wound up drafting Bruce Carter. I remember Jason Garrett really having wanted Andy Dalton. One could argue that Andy Dalton is the best quarterback in the last 5 years not drafted in the first round, except for Russell Wilson.

Where is the truth here? Are we really inept at finding talent, or are we actually good at finding talent and haven't found the right guy yet?

Are we not even looking because we put too much faith in Romo's body and it's ability to hold up?

This is one of the more interesting dynamics and discussions for this team in my opinion, and probably the most important for the future success of the organization.

Do you think the Cowboys can see quarterback talent and want the right guy, or do you think they're rolling the dice against the future?

I'm not writing this to give an opinion. I want to hear yours. Everyone's.

Until recently, this team had not drafted OLinemen high either. Now, we're set there for the next decade. You only get one pick per round per year, so every position can't be stocked with high picks. That said, I think an early round QB is coming soon...within next two drafts, depending on how the board falls when Dallas is up. I think their logic was to build a foundation for Romo's successor, and now that that foundation is there, they're ready to pull the trigger. That's my guess anyways. Mwe'll see.

 

[perrykemp]

They were reported to like Brett Hundley in this past draft and he looked really good in the preseason games that I saw. In the 2 preseason games where he had more than 5 attempts, his QB rating was 112 and 142.

I was surprised to see Hundley drop the 5th round.