Jason Witten had a seperated shoulder?

[Eskimo]

There are indeed various degrees of shoulder separation. There are 3 ligaments responsible for the stability of the AC joint. If only one is injured, the joint is usually pretty stable, but may be painful.

 

[dueyhemlock]

But catching the ball is not Witten's only responsibility.

It would seem that a separated shoulder, regardless of degree, also comes into play in blocking..and that's where I think it will be more of an issue.

Constant pounding on that shoulder is not going to be a good thing at all.

Over the course of a game, it's bound to get worst for him. And over games, that can't be good.

This is a real concern as the season goes on.

On a positive note, I saw Bennett really do and excellent job on the screen pass and make a very good run after tha catch. He slowed a good bit of speed in the open field.

Get well..Jason.

Not just that but I saw one heck of a seal block Bennett made at the goalline when Barber bounced it outside for the TD. He ended up pancaking his man onto the pile.

We are so lucky to have an All Pro TE and another possible good one coming up behind him. Follow your leader Bennett.

 

[Iago33]

We absolutely DO need a vocal leader. Not to flap his gums every time the go to the sidelines, but one to fire up the team when it's needed. We can't rely on Witten to get his helmet knocked off and run for 70 yards everytime we need to get the team fired up. We need someone that has the respect of the team to get up and rally them at certain times.

We've had those type of players every single time we've won a superbowl. Every single team that has won a superbowl has had at least 1 of those types of players.

There's leaders that lead by action, and leaders that lead by action and words. Championship teams need both types.

Really? No one ever won a championship without a "vocal leader"? It's fine for Emmit to compare this team to the team he had, but to expect similar personalities is a bit simple-minded. Just because it was the way it was done before doesn't mean it has to be done that way.

Perhaps it's me, but "vocal leadership" was much less important in my experience than focus.

 

[Rack]

Really? No one ever won a championship without a "vocal leader"? It's fine for Emmit to compare this team to the team he had, but to expect similar personalities is a bit simple-minded. Just because it was the way it was done before doesn't mean it has to be done that way.

Perhaps it's me, but "vocal leadership" was much less important in my experience than focus.

Typical ignoramous with a "Black or white" mentality.


You need Focus.

AND you need a vocal leader.


Imagine that, the world isn't black and/or white afterall.

 

[wileedog]

For pete's sake guys, there's no "H" in Witten.

Thanks Mr. Wite!

 

[Rack]

Typical ignoramous with a "Black or white" mentality.


You need Focus.

AND you need a vocal leader.


Imagine that, the world isn't black and/or white afterall.

ALso, to add on to my post a bit, you said "Focus" was more important.

What the hell do you think the vocal leader is for? He's to help the team FOCUS whenever things are going bad.


Imagine that.

 

[IndianaCowboyFan]

Either way, we lucked out, and now we have a guy who just might be putting together a Hall of Fame career, if he keeps this up.

Dallas has made a lot of bad draft picks but ya gotta admit when they hit on one they really hit on them.

 

[dbair1967]

Dallas has made a lot of bad draft picks but ya gotta admit when they hit on one they really hit on them.

Offense: Adams, Gurode, Witten, Crayton, Barber, Anderson, F Jones, Bennett

Defense: Canty, Ratlif, Spears, Ware, Spencer, Ellis, James, Newman, R Williams, Jenkins, Watkins, Burnett, Hatcher

Special Teams: Folk

RFA's signed- Romo, Austin, Hurd, McBriar, Davis

gee I dunno, that seems pretty good to me...thats 11 probowlers either drafted or signed via rookie free agency...

 

[Yoshimitsu]

Offense: Adams, Gurode, Witten, Crayton, Barber, Anderson, F Jones, Bennett

Defense: Canty, Ratlif, Spears, Ware, Spencer, Ellis, James, Newman, R Williams, Jenkins, Watkins, Burnett, Hatcher

Special Teams: Folk

RFA's signed- Romo, Austin, Hurd, McBriar, Davis

gee I dunno, that seems pretty good to me...thats 11 probowlers either drafted or signed via rookie free agency...

Bad... Draft... Pick...

 

[jksmith269]

For pete's sake guys, there's no "H" in Witten.

What does Pete have to do with this topic?

 

[IndianaCowboyFan]

Offense: Adams, Gurode, Witten, Crayton, Barber, Anderson, F Jones, Bennett

Defense: Canty, Ratlif, Spears, Ware, Spencer, Ellis, James, Newman, R Williams, Jenkins, Watkins, Burnett, Hatcher

Special Teams: Folk

RFA's signed- Romo, Austin, Hurd, McBriar, Davis

gee I dunno, that seems pretty good to me...thats 11 probowlers either drafted or signed via rookie free agency...

My point exactly. For my other point go back a few years further and list all the great picks.

 

[dbair1967]

My point exactly. For my other point go back a few years further and list all the great picks.

who cares about 6-8yrs ago now?

We've been drafting extremely well yr in and yr out pretty much since 2002. It's why we have such a good team today.

 

[dbair1967]

Bad... Draft... Pick...

Please...quit with the anti-Roy bias and admit the guy was a damn good player for several years. He was rated by pro-personnel people as either the top safety, or right at the top safety in the league for a few seasons. He was a playmaker and the most feared hitter in football for quite some time. He is not the same player anymore, but for at least 3 or 4 seasons he was outstanding.

 

[Yoshimitsu]

Please...quit with the anti-Roy bias and admit the guy was a damn good player for several years. He was rated by pro-personnel people as either the top safety, or right at the top safety in the league for a few seasons. He was a playmaker and the most feared hitter in football for quite some time. He is not the same player anymore, but for at least 3 or 4 seasons he was outstanding.

Great player at the beginning but started to decline. Not a good draft pick. He is a liability in coverage and teams game plan to exploit him. Newman is a great draft pick. Why Newman is a great draft pick? Because he contributes to this team and is a major part of this defense. Roy is a bad draft pick. Why is Roy a bad draftpick? Because he is not producing to the potential he had coming out of college and he is a liability on the field. Tell me how he was a great draft pick? We aren't living off of "What Roy did 3 years ago" We are living off of what have you done for me lately? Tell me why are we paying him 26M?

There is no anti-Roy bias. Its just the facts. If Roy was playing the way he was before his skills started to decline we wouldn't be having this discussion, now would we?

 

[dbair1967]

Great player at the beginning but started to decline. Not a good draft pick. He is a liability in coverage and teams game plan to exploit him. Newman is a great draft pick. Why Newman is a great draft pick? Because he contributes to this team and is a major part of this defense. Roy is a bad draft pick. Why is Roy a bad draftpick? Because he is not producing to the potential he had coming out of college and he is a liability on the field. Tell me how he was a great draft pick? We aren't living off of "What Roy did 3 years ago" We are living off of what have you done for me lately? Tell me why are we paying him 26M?

There is no anti-Roy bias. Its just the facts. If Roy was playing the way he was before his skills started to decline we wouldn't be having this discussion, now would we?

No player plays every game and every season at an elite level. His play has dropped off, why? I dont really know. Perhaps the violent style of play he had for so long (college and pro) has taken its toll. Maybe he doesnt have the same attitude towards the game any longer (there were rarely times when you didnt see a huge smile on his face his first 3-4yrs, but not anymore). Maybe he lost confidence in himself. or maybe its a combination.

What I do know is he was an outstanding player for several seasons. he was a playmaker who forced and created alot of turnovers. He made highlight film hit after hit. He most certainly was not a wasted pick.

 

[Yoshimitsu]

No player plays every game and every season at an elite level. His play has dropped off, why? I dont really know. Perhaps the violent style of play he had for so long (college and pro) has taken its toll. Maybe he doesnt have the same attitude towards the game any longer (there were rarely times when you didnt see a huge smile on his face his first 3-4yrs, but not anymore). Maybe he lost confidence in himself. or maybe its a combination.

What I do know is he was an outstanding player for several seasons. he was a playmaker who forced and created alot of turnovers. He made highlight film hit after hit. He most certainly was not a wasted pick.

And you tried to convince yourself that? Terrence Newman has played at an elite level every season hes been in the league. The fact that Roy Williams skills dropped off before he even hit 27 is real pathetic. The fact that you think he is a good draft pick is laughable. The fact that he was elite safety 3 years ago does not matter. How the hell can you become an elite player to a liability in such a short time. Brain Dawkins is better than him and he is 34 years old. If Roy doesn't step it up and push himself to be the best he will not be here in Dallas. All this Roy sympathy is pathetic. "But, But, But, He was good 3 years ago" Give me a break. Fans grilled Reeves but yet some guys seem to defend Roy. We all know he was elite 3 years ago. But this is a what have you done for me lately league. Teams don't game plan to pass all over a elite safety. Im sorry he is a liability. I will root for Roy to get better but it does not change the perception that he isn't much of a difference maker on defense. He is above average when playing at his best. Roy needs to show us he can return to past form. Until then i will always have my doubts.

 

[Da Hammer]

We absolutely DO need a vocal leader. Not to flap his gums every time the go to the sidelines, but one to fire up the team when it's needed. We can't rely on Witten to get his helmet knocked off and run for 70 yards everytime we need to get the team fired up. We need someone that has the respect of the team to get up and rally them at certain times.

We've had those type of players every single time we've won a superbowl. Every single team that has won a superbowl has had at least 1 of those types of players.

There's leaders that lead by action, and leaders that lead by action and words. Championship teams need both types.

well i disagree we need a vocal leader. well its probably cause ive never needed someone to motivate me do my the at the best of my ability even when i have been sick or been feeling down... so maybe we do its just somethin i dont relate to and dont understand

 

[Rack]

well i disagree we need a vocal leader. well its probably cause ive never needed someone to motivate me do my the at the best of my ability even when i have been sick or been feeling down... so maybe we do its just somethin i dont relate to and dont understand

I think it's pretty obvious that you don't understand.


Even so, just cuz YOU supposedly don't need motivation, doesn't mean that maybe there's another 15-20 players on the team that don't need it either.

You do understand how a team works, right? It's not all about YOU. And a vocal leader (something you obviously never have been) understands it.

And it's not even necessarily only for situations for when you're down. Let's say the opposing team just scored and you're up by 2 points. A good vocal leader can get his offense fired up (if needed) to go out there and either burn out the clock, or score again.


You may think you'd be at your peek at all times, but I guarantee if you were a cowboy in the mid 90's and you were in a tight playoff game entering the 4th quarter, and Michael Irvin comes running up and down the sideline getting in people's faces you WOULD get fired up. If you didn't then it means you don't have a freakin' pulse.

 

[jasonwitten82]

Witten is THA MAN (and we're from the same hometown, Elizabethton, TN.)

 

[jobberone]

AC separations are shoulder separations. They're graded I-IV. If they sent him in he has a Grade I. They are minor and there is a spectrum of that Grade as well. He's still tough.