Jaylon Smith Activation/Practice Window? **merged**

[Verdict]

I am sure it has been posted before, but when does his activation/practice window open and close?

 

[Sydla]

I think he has to practice with the team by November 7th.

And then that starts a 3 week window where he then has to be added to the 53 man roster by the 28th of November or go to IR.

So if he's not officially practicing with the team by late next week, it's a good bet he's done for the year.

 

[CVN68_Cowboys]

Not sure, but I wouldn't expect anything until the summer.

 

[speedkilz88]

The window is already open.

The benefit of placing a player on Reserve/PUP is that the player won't count against the 53-man roster limit. Teams have a six-week window (day after Week 6 to day after Week 11) during which the player can return to practice. If the player is not ready by then, the player either has to be released or moved to season-ending IR. Once a player returns to practice, teams have an extra three-week window before they have to activate the player to the 53-man roster (or release or IR him).

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2016...l-roster-designations-injured-reserve-pup-nfi

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I think he has to practice with the team by November 7th.

And then that starts a 3 week window where he then has to be added to the 53 man roster by the 28th of November or go to IR.

So if he's not officially practicing with the team by late next week, it's a good bet he's done for the year.

Teams have a six-week window (day after Week 6 to day after Week 11) during which the player can return to practice. If the player is not ready by then, the player either has to be released or moved to season-ending IR. Once a player returns to practice, teams have an extra three-week window before they have to activate the player to the 53-man roster (or release or IR him).

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2016...l-roster-designations-injured-reserve-pup-nfi

 

[dallasdave]

Not sure, but I wouldn't expect anything until the summer.

That's the smart long term outlook.

 

[waldoputty]

I was wondering if anyone knows statistics of recent ACL surgeries for young players like Jaylon Smith.
Obviously, the concern is the ACL injury may rob him of some speed and quickness, despite how hard he rehabs. One of his calling cards is his 4.4 speed, obviously...

I know a lot of people think the ligament part is now trivial, but was curious about these stats.

Would appreciate if we stay on topic for ACL recovery assuming Jaylon's nerve fully recovers, but not about Jaylon's nerve recovery. Thanks.

 

[CyberB0b]

His ACL is fine. It's the nerve that's the issue.

 

[the_h0wey]

I was wondering if anyone knows statistics of recent ACL surgeries for young players like Jaylon Smith.
Obviously, the concern is the ACL injury may rob him of some speed and quickness, despite how hard he rehabs. One of his calling cards is his 4.4 speed, obviously...

I know a lot of people think the ligament part is now trivial, but was curious about these stats.

Would appreciate if we stay on topic for ACL recovery assuming Jaylon's nerve fully recovers, but not about Jaylon's nerve recovery. Thanks.

60% of the time it works every time

 

[waldoputty]

His ACL is fine. It's the nerve that's the issue.

Thought Jordy Nelson lost a step from his ACL.
Are you saying it will come back over time?

 

[erod]

Thought Jordy Nelson lost a step from his ACL.
Are you saying it will come back over time?

His ACL is perfectly fine. Healed very well. ACLs are no big deal anymore, so long as you do your rehab religiously.

Nelson will come on as he goes, but he's also getting older, too.

 

[CATCH17]

His nerve is stretched out too long or something and it isn't working.. I don't know..

All I know is we need Jaylon Smith and we need him quick but I doubt we see him this year.

 

[waldoputty]

His ACL is perfectly fine. Healed very well. ACLs are no big deal anymore, so long as you do your rehab religiously.

Nelson will come on as he goes, but he's also getting older, too.

That would be good.
Would be sad if the generational player becomes only a good player.

 

[CyberB0b]

Thought Jordy Nelson lost a step from his ACL.
Are you saying it will come back over time?

There's plenty of players who have come back from a straight acl tear. Smith's was much more severe.

 

[erod]

There's plenty of players who have come back from a straight acl tear. Smith's was much more severe.

I've read that, structurally, the knee is as good as new. It's that nerve issue alone, which is no small thing obviously.

 

[waldoputty]

There's plenty of players who have come back from a straight acl tear. Smith's was much more severe.

Right, lots of issues.
Players come back, but I just did not know whether they will lose a step

 

[waldoputty]

I've read that, structurally, the knee is as good as new. It's that nerve issue alone, which is no small thing obviously.

I read that too but dont know if 'like new' is really like new.
That is why I started the thread hoping someone may have some stats on ACL with young players.

 

[Sarge]

60% of the time it works every time

Yea but the other 60% it doesn't.

 

[Idgit]

Mechanically, I think people recover fine from ACLs with little or no impact to peak performance. The issue comes in when a guy doesn't trust his leg for planting and cutting, which happens commonly.

The other thing that happens a lot is players rely too much on their good legs and end up blowing out ligaments on that side, too, as a result. I don't think it's a thing you can do too much bout until you're on the field, running and hitting.

Having blown 2 right ACLs, though, I know it's mentally tough to overcome the protective bias. Getting both legs fully up to previous musculature helps a lot with that, though. Personally, I had my greatest success when I got my legs in better shape than they were ever in before my blowout. Prior to that, it was in my head quite a bit.

 

[Reality]

Keep this thread on-topic!