Jayron Kearse - What am I supposed to do

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It was a weak call, but still have to play smarter, because anytime the refs hear the crack of a helmet they are going to throw the flag.
 

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The exact same thing happened to Pollard on a quick pass over the middle, no call.
 

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Nothing wrong with asking refs questions, nothing wrong with trying to change rules with the committee in the offseason. But when the leaders of your defense are spending time on Social Media caught up on ref calls, especially after a beatdown, it's soft. Plain and simple. It's why we can't shake the label. Listening this week to interviews with some of our key players on that 90's dynasty and their opinion of it confirms it with me. If SM existed then, they wouldn't be wasting their time with this nonsense.
Dead on.
Nothing at all wrong with asking the ref what he saw and why he made the call.
Explain to the ref, "when I left me feet I have to assume the ball is being caught, and I made sure not to lead with me helmut to his head, so can you tell me what you saw that made you call this?"
Refs appreciate that man to man stuff. Away from cameras, away from social media.
But Kearse goes on social media and whines.
That's soft.
Do you honestly thing the refs appreciate that?
What happens next time on a questionable play?
Do you think the ref says, "Kearse came to me man to man to ask about the last one, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on this one and not throw the flag here".
Or do you think they say "dude went on social media and whined like a teen age girl last time, so I'm definitely throwing the flag on him"?
 

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Do you honestly thing the refs appreciate that?
What happens next time on a questionable play?
Do you think the ref says, "Kearse came to me man to man to ask about the last one, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on this one and not throw the flag here".
Or do you think they say "dude went on social media and whined like a teen age girl last time, so I'm definitely throwing the flag on him"?
Good take. You explained it better, but that's basically what Nate Newton was trying to say on Hanging with the Boys last week about Micah Parsons calling them out.

Treat it right, make them your friends, handle it professionally, you need those calls. No conspiracies going on, but they are human and make mistakes.
 

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So what's the call on Kearse you're correct they probably beat us either way however it would have been nice to see if any of that momentum that got stopped you know 21 points came on those drives that the defense finally got a stop and then a penalty kept them going so it would be nice to see had those turned into a couple field goals and say they were up 13 to three and then we scored and some momentum went our way how this would have went that's why we never know how these calls affect the game...
It’s not just the Cowboys either. The refs missed a game changing running into the kicker call last night that would have changed the game. I am afraid of what is going to happen in the playoffs.
 

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It’s not just the Cowboys either. The refs missed a game changing running into the kicker call last night that would have changed the game. I am afraid of what is going to happen in the playoffs.
Honestly, what would have really changed the game was hitting an open Cooks when we were down 7-0. Dak had zero pressure and at least 6 or 7 yards of space to make that throw with a DB who wasn't looking back at the ball. At least make it a short ball to make sure he catches it or gets a PI flag. You don't capitalize on stuff like that and yes you will be talking about the refs after the game.
 

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Honestly, what would have really changed the game was hitting an open Cooks when we were down 7-0. Dak had zero pressure and at least 6 or 7 yards of space to make that throw with a DB who wasn't looking back at the ball. At least make it a short ball to make sure he catches it or gets a PI flag. You don't capitalize on stuff like that and yes you will be talking about the refs after the game.
I see the talking heads are blaming Dak for that play but I bet Cooks missing practice last week messed with that timing.
 

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Not saying I disagree, but please stop blaming the officiating. Losers blame refs. Suck it up and win.
Hard to recover from game altering calls. I get what you’re saying. You shoukd be playing well enough or have enough of a lead or momentum to where a couple of bad calls don’t leave it in the refs hands. But when your playing a game with even talent and like the first egirls game when we are at the 1 and have a clear delay of game penalty. Then we take a sack. Lol. Then it’s the last play and he hits the TE as the clock runs out and he is VERY CLEARLY being tackled before the ball gets there and the refs turn a blind eye.. Yeah that’s bs. Should have been 1st and goal at the 2 inch game with the game on the line. With our red zone Offense I am not saying it’s a gimmie. But this team and us fans were denied the fair opportunity to make the play. When the playoffs roll around it’s a new season. One and done and every play counts. Teams are more evenly matched talent wise. These calls or non calls can and will change the out comes. Or point spread if your a betting person…
 

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Remember before all these bs rules were put in place. Remember the first few years of a safety Roy Williams.. You could tune in and watch him knock someone out every game. You didn’t want to go across the middle with him in the game. They took that away and now you may as well put flags on the waist of the qb and receivers…
 

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Honestly, what would have really changed the game was hitting an open Cooks when we were down 7-0. Dak had zero pressure and at least 6 or 7 yards of space to make that throw with a DB who wasn't looking back at the ball. At least make it a short ball to make sure he catches it or gets a PI flag. You don't capitalize on stuff like that and yes you will be talking about the refs after the game.
I can not argue your point. I saw that throw and the ball took forever in the air. I knew it was a bomb down the seam. The commentators talked about it while the ball was still in the air. I was thinking if he hits this open guy we are going to win this game. Dak is on and we are going to turn this momentum around. But once again early in the game Dak is excited and over throws a TD. He did it again with a much shorter pass..

I know no QB is going to be on every game. But we really needed him to get it going. I figured he would use his legs in this game. It’s what would be needed to win this game. They went after his head early on and they threw the flag. But Martin negated it with his actions. Was not needed but I understand why and most would agree with it. I would if we were winning. We left B gap open all game. Never tried to stop the run. That’s what killed us. Our Offense had to go to the air. They did to us what we do to other teams. The refs didn’t help and the never do.
 

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Just stop trying to make the big hit the NFL doesn’t want it anymore. Just go with good old fashion warp up tackle and drive with your shoulder.. This defense needs to learn how to tackle instead of trying to just lower their shoulder. Wrap up, don’t leave your feet. Fundamental tackling, this defense does a poor job at that.
 

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Honestly, what would have really changed the game was hitting an open Cooks when we were down 7-0. Dak had zero pressure and at least 6 or 7 yards of space to make that throw with a DB who wasn't looking back at the ball. At least make it a short ball to make sure he catches it or gets a PI flag. You don't capitalize on stuff like that and yes you will be talking about the refs after the game.
You act like that's a routine throw lmao.

I'll give you credit, you have a good ability to nitpick plays and ridiculously exaggerate them.
 

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This should be a reminder to all of us and you're correct that's what Trayvon diggs was trying to do to kittles last year in the playoffs he was trying to graze him because he was afraid that he hit him too hard or in the wrong spot he would get flags these are what they're making players conscious of this during games and it's making them tentative to actually have a football attitude and tackle...

They can't win if they hit a guy too hard it's called targeting or unnecessary or whatever they were using now defenseless my *** that's the dumbest rule at least the top five because there is no such thing as a defenseless receiver, if he's going that high for the ball and exposing his ribs to try to make a play the defense has a right to keep them from making the play as long as it's legal and that was legal!!

you're hating a guy who's trying to make a big play jumps as high as he possibly can go and we get penalized for hitting the guy to keep him from completing the pass we hit him legal it was 100% legal that is not defenseless the man knows when he went up for the football that the defense is coming for him that is so far from defenseless!!

I get what some of those are like the blind side blocks where a guy may not see a guy and he may not feel him but even those types are ridiculous this is football when you're on the field you're always know you better defend yourself it's part of football it's part of the game...
It's kinda cute that you think that Diggs was trying to not hit Kittle too hard on that play, lol.
 

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It is all mindset. Coming off some big home wins this team forgot how to play in a hostile environment. Those 4x15 yards penalties gave all the momentum away. Especially Lawrance and Martin, they are veterans and should know better.
 

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You act like that's a routine throw lmao.

I'll give you credit, you have a good ability to nitpick plays and ridiculously exaggerate them.
When you have 6 or 7 yards of pocket to work with in today's NFL that should be a routine throw. And it was needed in the worst way given this team's history on the road. In that case, underthrow it to give the receiver a good chance to catch it. Overthrow is the 2nd worst thing you can do besides have it picked unless it was 4th down and the pick serves as a punt. That's exaggeration? Again, pay attention, Mac. Remember, this was a play I brought up when YOU tried to claim the refs put us in a hole early. I was simply talking about the Kearse play and just reminding you of how the game went on the side after you tried to change topics to the "refs did us dirty" weaksauce. Very non-powerhouse of you. Lol.
 
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