Jeff Samardzija

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I am a Cubs fan as well, and all the reports have him wowing coaches & players in spring training.

He was given a big contract to develop in the minors, but scouts are saying he could be called up no later than next year?
 

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DeWare94;1425430 said:
as a cubs fan, i'd be pretty mad if we drafted him

well your first problem is being a cubs fan


:D Go Sox :p:
 

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bbgun;1425417 said:
Well, the "be patient" strategy has paid off for us in the past (Staubach, Walker, Hennings, etc.)
Roger and Chad were studying football in their spare time while serving in the Navy and **, respectively. Hershel was PLAYING, but in a different league (WFL). Jeff had to AGREE TO NOT PLAY FOOTBALL while working for the Cubs (I think is his MLB team) which is more along the lines of Hutch and Henson...
 

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a lot of people don't know this but quincy carter was also drafted by the cubs
 

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COWBOYSNUM1;1425443 said:
I wouldn't be mad if we took a chance on him in the 5th.

His rights would only be held for a year.

I would be quite upset if we wasted a fifth round choice for nothing.

Were he doing as poorly as Drew Henson was, I would be okay with that.

But he has a 1.80 ERA in five innings with the Cubs in spring baseball. He was optioned to Class A but they are very impressed with him. I doubt he gives up the millions and flushes a promising career. Sorry, he's not as bad as Henson was.

If we held his rights for more than one year, I would not be that concerned.
 
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Hostile;1425384 said:
I know we haven't had much luck drafting baseball players, but if this kid is unclaimed in the 6th or 7th round with us having 5 picks, I wouldn't mind rolling the dice.


As a bandwagon golden domer football fan, I would maybe use a 7th on him if I had some. Chances are anyway , your seventh will not make the team anyway. But then again you could find a contributor like Patrick Crayton.

Here is my concern though.

He is not playing QB in the NFL. If he was , it might be worth it.

Here is my logic.

If he was playing QB it would be a better gamble because you know he would work on his arm daily with throwing and maybe even pitching. But..... he plays WR. He has GREAT hands but MARGINAL speed. He would probably run a 4.5 something if he had the chance to at the combine.

Im sure has pretty much peaked in the speed department. If he is playing baseball, he wont be using those same fast twitch muscles the same way. Sure there is the occasional wind sprints and other core excercises, but not the same explosive plyometrics and sprints I'm sure he did at ND.

The bad thing about this is that it would take some time to even come close to his playing speed after not playing football for 2-3 years. Sure his hands would be the same but his speed would be EVEN MORE of a concern.

Regardless though , I would do it.

He has some deceptive speed becasue does have those 6'5 legs of his and he isn't afraid of contact. Nor is he afraid to stiff arm Laron Landry to ground.
 

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t.o.boys81;1425434 said:
I'm a hardcore Cubs fan and Jeff told Cubs.com he will not play football no matter what. He's focused solely on baseball.


He is a pitcher. For the Cubs. I would bet on his baseball career being over within 5 years.
 

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Alexander;1425508 said:
His rights would only be held for a year.

I would be quite upset if we wasted a fifth round choice for nothing.

Were he doing as poorly as Drew Henson was, I would be okay with that.

But he has a 1.80 ERA in five innings with the Cubs in spring baseball. He was optioned to Class A but they are very impressed with him. I doubt he gives up the millions and flushes a promising career. Sorry, he's not as bad as Henson was.

If we held his rights for more than one year, I would not be that concerned.

You're right. In the past if you drafted someone you retained their rights. Now if you can't sign him before the next draft he goes back in.

If he bails from baseball he'll get a reasonably good deal from someone. He's not going to take 2nd day money to sign IMO. I agree with you.
 

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I'll pass simply because I don't see him bailing out of baseball within the next year. If we were able to hold his rights for years, sure, a 7th rounder would do it, but MLB is simply not going to give up on him this early.
 

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Alexander;1425508 said:
If we held his rights for more than one year, I would not be that concerned.

jobberone;1425553 said:
You're right. In the past if you drafted someone you retained their rights. Now if you can't sign him before the next draft he goes back in.

If he bails from baseball he'll get a reasonably good deal from someone. He's not going to take 2nd day money to sign IMO. I agree with you.

Avery;1425595 said:
I'll pass simply because I don't see him bailing out of baseball within the next year.
:hammer:
 

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Alexander;1425508 said:
His rights would only be held for a year.

I would be quite upset if we wasted a fifth round choice for nothing.

Were he doing as poorly as Drew Henson was, I would be okay with that.

But he has a 1.80 ERA in five innings with the Cubs in spring baseball. He was optioned to Class A but they are very impressed with him. I doubt he gives up the millions and flushes a promising career. Sorry, he's not as bad as Henson was.

If we held his rights for more than one year, I would not be that concerned.
I didn't realize that his rights were held for only a year. Since that is the case, then I'm not interested in using anything higher that one of our 7th round picks. I thought we would hold his right if he decided to jump to the NFL at any time. Because didn't he play with the Yankees for 2 seasons? :confused:
 

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TOJERSEY;1425641 said:
He is doing pretty well in the baseball world, but you never know.


Just wait until Larry Rothschild gets done 'coaching' Smardzija up, he will be begging for a football contract.
 

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Are we sure the rights are held only for a year? There has to be an exception or something because Dallas held Herschel Walker's rights for over a year. They drafted him in 1985 and he didn't join the team until the summer of 1986. That was after the 1986 draft. Dallas held Henning's rights for more than just one year.

I know the Texans had only a year with Drew Henson's rights before he would have re-entered the draft. The same applied with Tampa and Bo Jackson's rights(drafted in 1986) and that is why the Raiders were able to draft him in 1987.

Do the playes have to re-enter the draft? Maybe sign something saying they want to be eligible for the draft again.
 

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joseephuss;1425660 said:
Are we sure the rights are held only for a year? There has to be an exception or something because Dallas held Herschel Walker's rights for over a year. They drafted him in 1985.
That was over 20 years ago. They changed the rule since then.
 

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big dog cowboy;1425666 said:
That was over 20 years ago. They changed the rule since then.

I gave an example of Bo Jackson falling under the same guidelines as today and Herschel Walker not. That was one year apart. What exactly is the rule? I have searched and found no real clarification.
 

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JustSayNotoTO;1425548 said:
He is a pitcher. For the Cubs. I would bet on his baseball career being over within 5 years.

Just wait until Larry Rothschild gets done 'coaching' Smardzija up, he will be begging for a football contract.

:laugh2:
 

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Hostile;1425384 said:
I know we haven't had much luck drafting baseball players, but if this kid is unclaimed in the 6th or 7th round with us having 5 picks, I wouldn't mind rolling the dice.

6th or 7th........Hostile you crazy. That would be GREAT VALUE in those RDs but you must not be into his game as much as I am. I'd take Jeff as high as the 3rd. Screw measurables the kid can play IMHO.
 
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