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ABQCOWBOY;2796641 said:
Oh, c'mon now. He's pretty good. In fact, he's pretty DAMNED good! I got a feeling he called a game that your team lost or something. Either way, it's besides the point. The question has to do with the aforementioned "bias" possibility.............
Before we site other examples of potential bias (Aikman covering the Cowboys, Phil Simms covering his useless kid, etc...........), I don't know of any other brother calling his own brothers game. I'm sure it has happened and I'd love to hear about it. But I can't think of any................
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lewpac;2796651 said:
I dislike Jeff Van Gundy as an announcer because he is the biggest cynic for EVERYTHING.
Very rarely does he have something positive to say, he is always citing why something is bad, or what this player needs to work on, or why that was a dumb decision made by the player.
Take note of how many times he praises anything next time you listen to a game he calls. You can probably count it on one hand.
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I don't think Gundy should be covering a Gundy.
However I would be fine with a Grundy covering a Gundy.
However I would be fine with a Grundy covering a Gundy.
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Jeff V offered to step down, but ABC/ESPN said it was ok. He thought he could still deliver unbiased observations even tho he said he was pretty much in the tank for his brother.
That said, I can tolerate him as an announcer, because that means he's no longer coaching the Rockets.
That said, I can tolerate him as an announcer, because that means he's no longer coaching the Rockets.
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lewpac;2796615 said:
My wife loves how Jeff says all kinds of off the wall **** in the booth. I don't see any reason why he shouldn't be allowed.
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Family comes 1st for Van Gundy
Analyst open about rooting for brother Stan, Magic in Finals
By JONATHAN FEIGEN Copyright 2009 Houston Chronicle
June 2, 2009, 10:45PM
Dedicated and loyal fan of Rice baseball that he is, former Rockets coach Jeff Van Gundy took his seat in the last row at Reckling Park Saturday night to catch the Owls’ game against Kansas State.
He was there, however, not just to see a game, but to force himself to miss another.
Van Gundy’s brother, Stan, was coaching the Orlando Magic in Game 6 of the Eastern Conference Finals that night and Jeff could not bear to watch. But now that the Magic won that game to advance to the NBA Finals, Jeff will have no choice. He will serve as an analyst with Mark Jackson and Mike Breen on the ABC broadcasts, putting him in the difficult position of not only watching his brother pursue a championship but having to analyze it.
“Obviously, I was a little bit leery of doing the games,” Van Gundy said. “I remember speaking Mike and Mark about it and said, ‘I don’t know if I should be doing the games because I’m not sure I would be critical of Stan.’ Mark said, ‘That isn’t any different. You’re never critical of any coaches.’ That made a lot of sense to me because I know how hard the job is. Mark and I both try to say what we may do, but don’t spend a lot of time second-guessing.
Running joke
“If they’re fortunate enough to win the championship, I may have my bottle of champagne I pour over myself, Mark and Mike. I definitely want them to win, but during the games I’m going to try to be as objective as possible.”
Van Gundy said he asked his producers to at least consider whether it would be best to replace him on the broadcasts. But ESPN executive vice president Norby Williamson said there are no concerns about a conflict of interest. If there is any doubt, however, Breen and Jackson are sure to make an issue out of Van Gundy’s angst.
“We’ll needle Jeff as much as possible,” Breen said. “We’ll try to get as many stories from Bill and Cindy, Mr. and Mrs. Van Gundy, as possible. Our goal is to make Jeff uncomfortable and I think it will be easily attained.”
Sibling spat
Van Gundy broadcasted one Magic game this season, and said he was nervous for his brother and his team down the stretch. They had coached against one another twice as head coaches. One of the tougher matchups — at least since the childhood ones —came when Jeff was the Knicks head coach and Stan was an assistant at Miami.
“It was all right until the Charlie Ward-P.J. Brown fight and then it was like Armageddon and we didn’t speak to each other for a couple months,” Jeff Van Gundy said. “Fortunately, we won most of the time, so it was good.”
Now that they are back on the same side, Jeff suffers, especially now that he can’t escape to a local ballpark.
“I went to see Rice play Kansas State in baseball and then I went for a long walk and saw the last 1:49,” said Van Gundy, “just had great pride, great pride in what he’s been a part of.”
jonathan.feigen@chron.com
Analyst open about rooting for brother Stan, Magic in Finals
By JONATHAN FEIGEN Copyright 2009 Houston Chronicle
June 2, 2009, 10:45PM
Dedicated and loyal fan of Rice baseball that he is, former Rockets coach Jeff Van Gundy took his seat in the last row at Reckling Park Saturday night to catch the Owls’ game against Kansas State.
He was there, however, not just to see a game, but to force himself to miss another.
Van Gundy’s brother, Stan, was coaching the Orlando Magic in Game 6 of the Eastern Conference Finals that night and Jeff could not bear to watch. But now that the Magic won that game to advance to the NBA Finals, Jeff will have no choice. He will serve as an analyst with Mark Jackson and Mike Breen on the ABC broadcasts, putting him in the difficult position of not only watching his brother pursue a championship but having to analyze it.
“Obviously, I was a little bit leery of doing the games,” Van Gundy said. “I remember speaking Mike and Mark about it and said, ‘I don’t know if I should be doing the games because I’m not sure I would be critical of Stan.’ Mark said, ‘That isn’t any different. You’re never critical of any coaches.’ That made a lot of sense to me because I know how hard the job is. Mark and I both try to say what we may do, but don’t spend a lot of time second-guessing.
Running joke
“If they’re fortunate enough to win the championship, I may have my bottle of champagne I pour over myself, Mark and Mike. I definitely want them to win, but during the games I’m going to try to be as objective as possible.”
Van Gundy said he asked his producers to at least consider whether it would be best to replace him on the broadcasts. But ESPN executive vice president Norby Williamson said there are no concerns about a conflict of interest. If there is any doubt, however, Breen and Jackson are sure to make an issue out of Van Gundy’s angst.
“We’ll needle Jeff as much as possible,” Breen said. “We’ll try to get as many stories from Bill and Cindy, Mr. and Mrs. Van Gundy, as possible. Our goal is to make Jeff uncomfortable and I think it will be easily attained.”
Sibling spat
Van Gundy broadcasted one Magic game this season, and said he was nervous for his brother and his team down the stretch. They had coached against one another twice as head coaches. One of the tougher matchups — at least since the childhood ones —came when Jeff was the Knicks head coach and Stan was an assistant at Miami.
“It was all right until the Charlie Ward-P.J. Brown fight and then it was like Armageddon and we didn’t speak to each other for a couple months,” Jeff Van Gundy said. “Fortunately, we won most of the time, so it was good.”
Now that they are back on the same side, Jeff suffers, especially now that he can’t escape to a local ballpark.
“I went to see Rice play Kansas State in baseball and then I went for a long walk and saw the last 1:49,” said Van Gundy, “just had great pride, great pride in what he’s been a part of.”
jonathan.feigen@chron.com
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGQEAiZJMco
In case anyone was wondering what the heck I was talking about.
In case anyone was wondering what the heck I was talking about.
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zrinkill;2797396 said:
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