Jefferey Simmons anyone?

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The guys is supposed to be a top ten talent with two red flags, a torn ACL while training for the combine and an assault charge and criminal mischief from getting involved in an altercation his sister was in and pushed a lady to the ground and continued to hit her. I haven’t seen the video but apparently it’s pretty graphic and happened 3 years ago. Since then, he’s supposedly been a role model citizen. Drafting a player like this is right in Jerrah’s wheelhouse but I’m curious to hear what you guys think.

He’s a stud and fills a position many of us are clammoring for. He would also normally go top 10 but there’s a good chance he’ll make it to the 2nd round, maybe even to us. Would you want him?
 
Never put it past the cowboys to draft a player that wont play the same season. If it's worth do it I guess.
 
The guys is supposed to be a top ten talent with two red flags, a torn ACL while training for the combine and an assault charge and criminal mischief from getting involved in an altercation his sister was in and pushed a lady to the ground and continued to hit her. I haven’t seen the video but apparently it’s pretty graphic and happened 3 years ago. Since then, he’s supposedly been a role model citizen. Drafting a player like this is right in Jerrah’s wheelhouse but I’m curious to hear what you guys think.

He’s a stud and fills a position many of us are clammoring for. He would also normally go top 10 but there’s a good chance he’ll make it to the 2nd round, maybe even to us. Would you want him?
This is so not you...
 
NO WAY! Kareem Hunt looks like an angel compared to what I just saw when I watched that video... ABSOLUTELY NOT
 
No thanks. I can live with a fight here and there or even a failed drug test not a woman beater.
 
This is so not you...
Lol, what to you mean? I haven’t given my opinion on the guy and I haven’t seen the video although I can’t imagine there’s anyway it’s not atrocious. I believe it was 3 years ago so I’d be very curious to hear exactly what he’s done to “make up for it” if that’s even possible. I’m more curious to hear what other people think, normally I’m in the minority with not wanting these types of “character issue” players.

My gut tells me hell no but I would like to know more about him. I don’t care what our jacked up court systems did, Hardy was guilty as hell and a menace on the field, off the field and in the locker room.
 
Lol, what to you mean? I haven’t given my opinion on the guy and I haven’t seen the video although I can’t imagine there’s anyway it’s not atrocious. I believe it was 3 years ago so I’d be very curious to hear exactly what he’s done to “make up for it” if that’s even possible. I’m more curious to hear what other people think, normally I’m in the minority with not wanting these types of “character issue” players.

My gut tells me hell no but I would like to know more about him. I don’t care what our jacked up court systems did, Hardy was guilty as hell and a menace on the field, off the field and in the locker room.
I just remember you railing to no end about Zeke and other players and how you are about Character. That's all.
I'm not being offensive, trust. I dig you. This seems a bit of a departure that you would even sniff in his direction. Maybe it's just me.
 
I just remember you railing to no end about Zeke and other players and how you are about Character. That's all.
I'm not being offensive, trust. I dig you. This seems a bit of a departure that you would even sniff in his direction. Maybe it's just me.
You’re definitely not wrong, and sniffing is the most. With Zeke, it wasn’t one isolated incident, it was several which was the kicker for me. Everyone screws up, I get that, but when a pattern of behavior develops which signifies unstable personality, lack of responsibility, lack of dedication to teammates and team...is when I get concerned.

I came full circle on Zeke, I never once said he was guilty all I ever said was wait until all the evidence came out before claiming him innocent or guilty so I never supported the allegations one way or the other. I did think the NFL would have SOMETHING that the public wasn’t aware of otherwise they wouldn’t have taken it that far. Apparently not, and Zeke just got rammed. Granted, it’s not beating a girl but there have been other eye brow raising instances. My only hope is he matures rapidly and last year was a good start without any problems.

I mean the guy was still under investigation and he pulled the Pattys Day parade and the highly questionable nightclub incident. That’s concerning. As bad as what Simmons did, it was three years ago and IF he has not only stayed out of trouble but gone out of his way to show remorse then maybe that makes the pill a little easier to swallow? I dunno, as I said, I’d have to learn more about it all.

I mean Josh Brent KILLED a guy from making a poor decision and was welcomed back with open arms a couple years later. Obviously he regretted it and it was a poor decision but he was essentially largely responsible for taking someone’s life and that was forgiven.

Until I learn more, I’m torn. I’ll say this, if this had haplened in the past year there would be nothing he dould have done to even consider drafting him. If he has done anything extraordinary since the incident, I don’t want him. I’d like to dig a bit deeper into it.
 
You’re definitely not wrong, and sniffing is the most. With Zeke, it wasn’t one isolated incident, it was several which was the kicker for me. Everyone screws up, I get that, but when a pattern of behavior develops which signifies unstable personality, lack of responsibility, lack of dedication to teammates and team...is when I get concerned.

I came full circle on Zeke, I never once said he was guilty all I ever said was wait until all the evidence came out before claiming him innocent or guilty so I never supported the allegations one way or the other. I did think the NFL would have SOMETHING that the public wasn’t aware of otherwise they wouldn’t have taken it that far. Apparently not, and Zeke just got rammed. Granted, it’s not beating a girl but there have been other eye brow raising instances. My only hope is he matures rapidly and last year was a good start without any problems.

I mean the guy was still under investigation and he pulled the Pattys Day parade and the highly questionable nightclub incident. That’s concerning. As bad as what Simmons did, it was three years ago and IF he has not only stayed out of trouble but gone out of his way to show remorse then maybe that makes the pill a little easier to swallow? I dunno, as I said, I’d have to learn more about it all.

I mean Josh Brent KILLED a guy from making a poor decision and was welcomed back with open arms a couple years later. Obviously he regretted it and it was a poor decision but he was essentially largely responsible for taking someone’s life and that was forgiven.

Until I learn more, I’m torn. I’ll say this, if this had haplened in the past year there would be nothing he dould have done to even consider drafting him. If he has done anything extraordinary since the incident, I don’t want him. I’d like to dig a bit deeper into it.
Big thumb's up buddy. I get you now.
 
3rd or 4th round. I want a starter this year with a 2nd. Wow just saw the video. We should go after his sister. Talking about being built like a tank, and having a good punch.
 
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If he makes it to the 3rd round JJ won’t be able to resist.
If we had a 1 the gamble may be worth it but with no 1 you can’t gamble at 58
3rd rnd a different story but he’s not falling that far unless another woman comes out the night before the draft or something
 
How’d that work out for us w/ Jaylon?

Not very good. Dallas defense was smoked by The Rams & Green Bay with and without Jaylon. Don't get cute draft a player that can make a difference this season in 2019.
 
Gotta be him or Bryce Love. Thats Jerry's M O.
 

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