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It’s a clusterfck because 1) Micah fits Zim scheme perfectly but only as an inside LB. 2) Micah only wants to rush the passer and likes playing on the edge. 3) Cowboys don’t spend on quality FAs

What should be a good match is made useless because you have a player that thinks too highly of himself mixed with a lame duck DC that can’t force him to play off the edge.

If Zim was going to be here more than a year, I’d trade Micah for two 1st and a 3rd, then ship OSA for a mid-round pick (4th). At the end of the season tell DLaw thank you for your service.

Now Zim would have part of the $35 million (Micah’s most likely annual salary)to spend on DLine along with a few picks in the upcoming draft

That won’t happen though. The cowboys essentially can fix this and be contenders in offseason. But they won’t.
Nothing is working with Zimmer’s scheme and he very likely won’t be back next year along with the rest of this coaching staff. We can’t stop the run and we don’t have much of a pass rush. This was going on before the injuries. Parsons is having a down year. In the four games he’s played he only has one sack. He’s going to be looking to be the highest paid defensive player. He may be asking for close to $40 million per season. He’ll be lucky if he comes up with 7-8 sacks this season.

He’s an undersized player that wears down from all the attention he gets and he’s not that great against the run. He was being taken out of plays by a tight end against New Orleans. If this season ends up as bad as it looks like it might, it wouldn’t shock me if the Joneses look to trade him. He’s going to be a training camp hold out next summer if he doesn’t get a new contract. We could use the draft picks to try and build the DL.
 

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Nothing is working with Zimmer’s scheme and he very likely won’t be back next year along with the rest of this coaching staff. We can’t stop the run and we don’t have much of a pass rush. This was going on before the injuries. Parsons is having a down year. In the four games he’s played he only has one sack. He’s going to be looking to be the highest paid defensive player. He may be asking for close to $40 million per season. He’ll be lucky if he comes up with 7-8 sacks this season.

He’s an undersized player that wears down from all the attention he gets and he’s not that great against the run. He was being taken out of plays by a tight end against New Orleans. If this season ends up as bad as it looks like it might, it wouldn’t shock me if the Joneses look to trade him. He’s going to be a training camp hold out next summer if he doesn’t get a new contract. We could use the draft picks to try and build the DL.
Zim has no power here. If he did, Micah would be playing LB and we’d have a real DE opposite DLAW and a better 1T. Micah is a stat seeker and he’s having a down year because the cowboys 1) Can’t get a lead and 2) can’t stop the run. Cowboys couldn’t stop the run last year either, but the offense could drop 30points , and teams would abandon the run.

Zims scheme doesn’t work because players are small, inconsistent and aren’t assignment sound. Had quinn stayed, his defense would’ve been trash as well because he has pass rushers and not run stoppers. Because the success of the D primarily comes from playing with a lead.
 

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Lol,
Sure he is if your knowledge of dline rush extends beyond’s sacks!
He doesn't play he run well so I don't understand your point.

He disappears completely during the last quarter of the season and he has one sack this year. He's not the same player because he doesn't have the drive anymore and teams have figured him out.

You don't sign players like that to huge contracts. You trade them and stockpile picks, especially if you have holes all over the roster. Signing him would create even more holes because then we have a huge portion of our cap devoted to just three players.
 

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We have cap Problems.

23M isn’t a lot. They will roll whats left of that into 2025.

and we only have that because of the extensions for Dak and CD.

2025 is gonna be a mess.
 

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Zim has no power here. If he did, Micah would be playing LB and we’d have a real DE opposite DLAW and a better 1T. Micah is a stat seeker and he’s having a down year because the cowboys 1) Can’t get a lead and 2) can’t stop the run. Cowboys couldn’t stop the run last year either, but the offense could drop 30points , and teams would abandon the run.

Zims scheme doesn’t work because players are small, inconsistent and aren’t assignment sound. Had quinn stayed, his defense would’ve been trash as well because he has pass rushers and not run stoppers. Because the success of the D primarily comes from playing with a lead.
agree.

big problems between Big Mike and Zim.
 

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He doesn't play he run well so I don't understand your point.

He disappears completely during the last quarter of the season and he has one sack this year. He's not the same player because he doesn't have the drive anymore and teams have figured him out.

You don't sign players like that to huge contracts. You trade them and stockpile picks, especially if you have holes all over the roster. Signing him would create even more holes because then we have a huge portion of our cap devoted to just three players.
Fans now turning on Micah.
 

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When you say “worth the next contract”, how much are you talking about? $32 million per season?
5 years 180-200M

will kick in around 2026.

hes got the 5th yr in 2025. But the signing bonus will be huge.

so add that in over 4-5 yrs.

one of the many reasons Dak wasn’t fully GTD over the life of his new contract.

DALLAS can’t afford it.

Steele and maybe even Diggs at some point, will be Post June 1 cuts.
 

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this talk is going nowhere like the last 30 years. the whole thing is until you stop pumping money into the dumb and dumbers hands all you say means nothing
 

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yet we have 23M on the cap. could have easily been 40.....we choose not to.
for 2025 we have cap space and we can easily open up 65-75M in additional cap space.

there is plenty of ways to have cap space to sign FAs. we choose not to.

secondly, you have to have the foundations of a DL in place, and perhaps sign a top FA to round out the group. we don't have a solid DT nor at this point DE situation.
lastly, in FA you will over pay. and good players are limited.

you don't build a team through FA.....you supplement and complement what you have. you still have to draft well. the past two drafts have been down right awful.
Yeah, I keep hearing the 23 mil number, is it accurate? Don't we need it to have any chance of paying Micah?
 

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Like I keep telling you there’s no guarantees the draft picks you receive will turn out to be good players. It would’ve been stupid to pay Dak $60 million per season and trade away his number one receiver. Once you get past CeeDee our receivers are average but you don’t seem to get that. It’s almost like you’re not comprehending anything I say. Trade CeeDee for draft picks and you’ll be using at least one of those picks to try and replace him. Or we would have to sign a quality free agent WR that would cost us a lot of money. Go look at the contracts free agents are signing. This is why we’re not active in free agency. You end up having to pay huge money for a FA, so it’s better to re-sign your own player. At least you’re re-signing a player you know fits in with your team. A lot of free agents don’t pan out.
Now turn that around. It is guaranteed that we won't win a super bowl by overpaying players. So, what's the answer? Pay CD and keep losing because we can't stop the run?
 

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Yeah, I keep hearing the 23 mil number, is it accurate? Don't we need it to have any chance of paying Micah?
We have it this year
We are already under the cap next year.
We can open up 65 to 70M in cap with few restructured.

If they want to sign m8cah, they can....

Should they? That's another question
 

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Fans now turning on Micah.
I turned on him the minute he pushed back on his new DC. If a new coach with decades of experience and success comes in and wants you to do something that’ll help he team and will help him install his scheme YOU DO IT. Especially as a team leader.

But averaging 13 sacks a year for a few years gives a young player (who’s won nothing by the way) entitlement to force a coach to adapt to him.

Quinn was solid, but Zim was hired to fix the things Quinn couldn’t. The defense wasn’t going to be top 5 in points again. They should’ve been around 15th but played very very well against the run. Because Zim is trying to please his star player he’s adapting his scheme with Micah and as we can see the results are what they are.
 

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Fans now turning on Micah.
Micah Parsons is over hyped, & under performing.

Remember all the comparisons to Lawrence Taylor...... yeah, ya don't hear that anymore.

Parsons shows moments of greatness, then takes plays off. He's not an effective run stopper, or coverage guy. He can be a good pass rusher, but he's far from another LT. He also lacks durability. Look at his playoff performances. Far from dominant.

Micah is only effective as a pass rusher. This year, he hasn't even been that. He's a liability in stopping the run.

I'd be in favor of trading him rather than paying him a ridiculous contract.
 

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I turned on him the minute he pushed back on his new DC. If a new coach with decades of experience and success comes in and wants you to do something that’ll help he team and will help him install his scheme YOU DO IT. Especially as a team leader.

But averaging 13 sacks a year for a few years gives a young player (who’s won nothing by the way) entitlement to force a coach to adapt to him.

Quinn was solid, but Zim was hired to fix the things Quinn couldn’t. The defense wasn’t going to be top 5 in points again. They should’ve been around 15th but played very very well against the run. Because Zim is trying to please his star player he’s adapting his scheme with Micah and as we can see the results are what they are.
Not true. He won the Most Easily Chipped Aside While the RB Runs Right By Him award.
 

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Not true. He won the Most Easily Chipped Aside While the RB Runs Right By Him award.
Dang you right. Forgot about those chips lol. He got mad about getting chipped too. Wanted that outlawed. Only him and washed up con miller were complaining
 

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The Cowboys are last in rushing in the NFL this year. Guess who is number one? Ravens.. TBH - I don't think even DH can run with this o-line.

I think Jerry is really upset with this coach and staff, he is going on a removal spree after this year.
 

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The Cowboys are last in rushing in the NFL this year. Guess who is number one? Ravens.. TBH - I don't think even DH can run with this o-line.

I think Jerry is really upset with this coach and staff, he is going on a removal spree after this year.
Exactly!!! Everyone wanted a better RB. but failed to see that a Derrick Henry would only get us to maybe 28th in rushing. Because the Oline is bad. Bad LT and RT, along with a HOF RG whose face to face with Father Time.
 

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LeagueMicah Parsons5 years 180-200M

will kick in around 2026.

hes got the 5th yr in 2025. But the signing bonus will be huge.

so add that in over 4-5 yrs.

one of the many reasons Dak wasn’t fully GTD over the life of his new contract.

DALLAS can’t afford it.

Steele and maybe even Diggs at some point, will be Post June 1 cuts.
Dak Prescott became the highest paid player in the league coming off a great season, statistically. Jerry’s sentiment he can’t afford free agents because he has to sign Parsons will seem accurate if the team is going to make Micah Parsons the highest paid defensive player in the league coming off, for him, a down year.

The team is going to have to start winning to justify another “top of market” contract for a Cowboys player.
 
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