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They decided to trade Tyreek Hill because they have a very talented team. They didn’t want to pay big money for him. We don’t have a very talented team and can’t afford to lose our best WR. It doesn’t matter how deep the WR class is it doesn’t guarantee you’re going to come up with a good one. Remove CeeDee from this team and we have a very average at best WR group. CeeDee is a real good one and we did the right thing by paying him. You can’t just let all your best players walk or trade them. The free agent losses this past off-season has made us worse because we did hardly anything in free agency. Trading CeeDee and drafting a WR and signing a FA doesn’t assure that will make us better. The Cowboys don’t do much in free agency anyway. A free agent WR would cost big money if they’re worth a darn. You could end up with a bust drafting a WR. Tolbert was a third round pick and although he’s improved and is starting to make some plays, he’s nowhere close to a number one receiver.
So they decided to trade him because they have good team and we decided to pay CD because our team sucks???
 

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So they decided to trade him because they have good team and we decided to pay CD because our team sucks???
It’s easier to move on from a great player if you have a lot of other great players. It doesn’t leave that big a hole when you have a great team. We paid Ceedee because we continue to fall short in the playoffs and we need him. There’s too big a drop off between him and the other receivers we have. If you trade him, you’re then having to use draft picks trying to replace him when we have other holes. If we don’t build up our DL we’ll never have a good defense, and teams will continue to abuse us with the running game.
 

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Chuckles said they had to sign several players currently on the roster so they can't afford to sign free agents. I fully expect them to sign Parsons to a monster deal even though he hasn't earned it.
Lol,
13, 13.5, and 14 sacks in his first 3 seasons along with 103 pressures last season and he hasn’t earned it?
I guess it’s because he can’t leap tall buildings in a single bound eh?
 

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It’s easier to move on from a great player if you have a lot of other great players. It doesn’t leave that big a hole when you have a great team. We paid Ceedee because we continue to fall short in the playoffs and we need him. There’s too big a drop off between him and the other receivers we have. If you trade him, you’re then having to use draft picks trying to replace him when we have other holes. If we don’t build up our DL we’ll never have a good defense, and teams will continue to abuse us with the running game.
Could have traded CD for multiple picks. Money saved from trade could have been used in FA.
 

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Go to: https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/dallas-cowboys

For next year the team has 39 players signed for next year. That included DLaw and Martin who are going to definitely be gone.

They have 28 million in cap space. So when they’re gone you have 37 active players that include guys like Nathan Thomas, Earl Bostick and KJ Henry. Which means you have to find at least 16 more just to make up an active roster plus practice squad.

Now Dak can be restructured and save the team 12 million according to https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cap/_/year/2025 but that gives you just 40 million to find all those players
Restructuring Dak next year (which I am VEHEMENTLY against) adds over $38M in Cap Space. Not sure where you got this $12M figure. In fact, according to Over the Cap, restructuring both Dak AND CeeDee would give you $59M MORE in Cap Space.
 

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Wait, what would Parsons need to do to "earn" a massive deal?

He's one of the three best edge players in the NFL. That's really not all that debatable. He deserves to be paid that much. If we had a competent GM, they'd be able to build around cornerstone guys like Parsons but unfortunately our GM is an idiot.
He would need to be better than what he's been, since he's injured I guess all he has to do is have about 10-12 sacks, that'll show Jerry he's about business! :rolleyes:
 

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It’s easier to move on from a great player if you have a lot of other great players. It doesn’t leave that big a hole when you have a great team. We paid Ceedee because we continue to fall short in the playoffs and we need him. There’s too big a drop off between him and the other receivers we have. If you trade him, you’re then having to use draft picks trying to replace him when we have other holes. If we don’t build up our DL we’ll never have a good defense, and teams will continue to abuse us with the running game.
And building up the DL becomes incrementally tougher after you pay CD.
 

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So they decided to trade him because they have good team and we decided to pay CD because our team sucks???
no, because they have patrick mahomes and they already had Kelce.....give mahomes and perhaps we walk away from CD....

and they had Jones, a highly paid difference making DT...give me Jones and perhaps we walk away from CD. their OL is pretty good too btw
 

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Lol,
13, 13.5, and 14 sacks in his first 3 seasons along with 103 pressures last season and he hasn’t earned it?
I guess it’s because he can’t leap tall buildings in a single bound eh?
because he disappears in big games. he disappears in playoffs. he is more focused on his business and reputation and marketing than playing football
 

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Could have traded CD for multiple picks. Money saved from trade could have been used in FA.
to get multiple picks for a player you have to trade him two years before his contract is due...in the last year of his contract you get at most a first round pick from a contending team, which ends up being in low first round.
 

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And building up the DL becomes incrementally tougher after you pay CD.
yet we have 23M on the cap. could have easily been 40.....we choose not to.
for 2025 we have cap space and we can easily open up 65-75M in additional cap space.

there is plenty of ways to have cap space to sign FAs. we choose not to.

secondly, you have to have the foundations of a DL in place, and perhaps sign a top FA to round out the group. we don't have a solid DT nor at this point DE situation.
lastly, in FA you will over pay. and good players are limited.

you don't build a team through FA.....you supplement and complement what you have. you still have to draft well. the past two drafts have been down right awful.
 

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Lol,
13, 13.5, and 14 sacks in his first 3 seasons along with 103 pressures last season and he hasn’t earned it?
I guess it’s because he can’t leap tall buildings in a single bound eh?
And he's not existent during the last quarter of the season.
 

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Could have traded CD for multiple picks. Money saved from trade could have been used in FA.
Like I keep telling you there’s no guarantees the draft picks you receive will turn out to be good players. It would’ve been stupid to pay Dak $60 million per season and trade away his number one receiver. Once you get past CeeDee our receivers are average but you don’t seem to get that. It’s almost like you’re not comprehending anything I say. Trade CeeDee for draft picks and you’ll be using at least one of those picks to try and replace him. Or we would have to sign a quality free agent WR that would cost us a lot of money. Go look at the contracts free agents are signing. This is why we’re not active in free agency. You end up having to pay huge money for a FA, so it’s better to re-sign your own player. At least you’re re-signing a player you know fits in with your team. A lot of free agents don’t pan out.
 

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Like I keep telling you there’s no guarantees the draft picks you receive will turn out to be good players. It would’ve been stupid to pay Dak $60 million per season and trade away his number one receiver. Once you get past CeeDee our receivers are average but you don’t seem to get that. It’s almost like you’re not comprehending anything I say. Trade CeeDee for draft picks and you’ll be using at least one of those picks to try and replace him. Or we would have to sign a quality free agent WR that would cost us a lot of money. Go look at the contracts free agents are signing. This is why we’re not active in free agency. You end up having to pay huge money for a FA, so it’s better to re-sign your own player. At least you’re re-signing a player you know fits in with your team. A lot of free agents don’t pan out.
There is no guarantee after you pay CD that he plays at the same level as before. Not sure what your point is. I would take my chances with 3 players instead of 1.
 

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ALL OF IT IS BS. the cowboys have 23M in cap space and yet, Jerry and stephen said, they couldn't afford Henry. not that they think Zeke is good as him or almost as good, they couldn't afford henry.

Dallas had 10M on the cap in 2023. they have 23M available on the cap in 2024.

in terms of dead cap money, we are at 20M, which is 26th in the league. this tells me they hold on to their players until contracts run out. they are not making moves.

in terms of total cash spent, we are 14th, mostly because of CD and Dak contract, else we were in the 30th range.
some of the top 10 in cash spend include Philly, SF, Miami, Det, Houston, KC....coincedence?
we are 17th in cash spend at this point for 2025 (committed money).

in terms of combined AAV, we are 15th in the league.... again Philly, Detroit, SF, Buffalo, Miami, Houston, Min are all in top 10.

this is a badly mismanaged team, that doesn't know how to manage the cap. they are not interested in building a team. obvious they are not interested in FA. they are focused on maximizing profits. they don't care about winning a championship or building a champtionship team. I have heard all the people complaining about Dak's contract and now we have no cap to spend on anybody else!!!!....yet we have 23M available!!!!

we are 7th in cap allocation in 2025, with ability to open about 65M on the cap with a few restructures. but will they do it? probably not.

source: Cap space per team
We need this years money to compensate for Daks high cap hit in 25. So we will move it to 2025.

This year is a rebuilding year. To get out of cap hell.

All JJ says points to it:

- we like our guys -> means: we wont sign players in FA because we rebuild
- we couldnt afford Henry -> we save the cap space because we rebuild
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He makes those comments since the start of the season. You just have to listen and understand.
 
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