Jerry acknowledges the cap restraints with Prescott's contract

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Jerry and Stevie CREATE the problem...now want us 2 think they will solve it. Same thing when they traded Amari. Create the problem, act like it was unexpected, then sell hopium as u try 2 fix the very issue you created. Its a parlor trick they are running. The fans aren't buying it.
It’s laughable at this point.
 

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Pay a below average QB elite money and this is what you get.
we are about 2 make another big mistake. In fact, 2 mistakes. Signing Beckham, then tagging 20. Paying 10 mil for 1 year with a rb is bad.
 

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Yea, if you consider “some” cap space about 50 million that is correct.

Jerry had Dak on a rookie deal and didn’t spend big on FAs to make a playoff run.

Now he is saying Daks contract wont allow him to spend big on FAs while he could easily restructure contracts and do that.

He’s literally shoving poo poo to the media and some of our fans are buying it.
If you want to revisit the Rookie deal you'll find part of it was wasted due to the Dead Money they had to pay Romo and Dez.
The perpetual issue is giving irresponsible contract extentions which bite into present CAP availability.
What you fail to mention (and possibly taken into account) is that using that $50m WILL effect resigning: Diggs, CeeDee and Micah.... just on the basis that other teams are going to be able to outbid us.
If you look at the different interviews it's clear that Jerry has his own concerns as to whether Dak is the QB to go all-in with.
 

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Jerry and Stevie CREATE the problem...now want us 2 think they will solve it. Same thing when they traded Amari. Create the problem, act like it was unexpected, then sell hopium as u try 2 fix the very issue you created. Its a parlor trick they are running. The fans aren't buying it.
The main concern with the Amari decision was that that CAP saving was to be spent on Randy. The idea of putting faith in Gallup, CeeDee and Dak to play up and taking more responsibility is a fair assumption, the fact that Dak and Gallup seriously underachieved is the reason the gamble really failed.
Just be thankful thank Stephen insisted on the drug clause or we'd still be lumbered with Randy.
 
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If you want to revisit the Rookie deal you'll find part of it was wasted due to the Dead Money they had to pay Romo and Dez.
The perpetual issue is giving irresponsible contract extentions which bite into present CAP availability.
What you fail to mention (and possibly taken into account) is that using that $50m WILL effect resigning: Diggs, CeeDee and Micah.... just on the basis that other teams are going to be able to outbid us.
If you look at the different interviews it's clear that Jerry has his own concerns as to whether Dak is the QB to go all-in with.
The salary cap is a speed bump…it’s almost irrelevant the way it can be manipulated to create space.

We can retain our core guys and still at least try to improve the roster via FA.
 

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The salary cap is a speed bump…it’s almost irrelevant the way it can be manipulated to create space.

We can retain our core guys and still at least try to improve the roster via FA.
No, the CAP is real. It's those who look at the extremes and say ..we can create $50-$80m without factoring in the effects that are either misled or deliberately ignoring the reality.
We can retain our core guys and still at least try to improve the roster via FA.
How??? These posts mentioning CAP manipulation, never quite factoring in future years.
 

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Who cares? Teams all across the league continue to do it to get better while we embarrass ourselves every year thinking draft picks will save our team.
And plenty of teams across the league did worse than the cowboys last year too. If you want to go all in and start a rebuild in 2024 or 2025 I’m not completely against it, but won’t blindly ignore the consequences either. It’s worked out quite well for the Rams who won a Super Bowl but may be in for 5 years of a last place team to show for it. The jets from their last playoff push went into cap hell and have been in recovery mode ever since. New Orleans continues to push their cap hits off in exchange for 500 or worse seasons.

There is a really good argument to be made that the cowboys are that team with a missing piece or two that should go the all in route, I just also see the side where if the cowboys don’t win a championship the next year or two after going all in where it may be 2030 before this team gets back to even where they are now.
 

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And plenty of teams across the league did worse than the cowboys last year too. If you want to go all in and start a rebuild in 2024 or 2025 I’m not completely against it, but won’t blindly ignore the consequences either. It’s worked out quite well for the Rams who won a Super Bowl but may be in for 5 years of a last place team to show for it. The jets from their last playoff push went into cap hell and have been in recovery mode ever since. New Orleans continues to push their cap hits off in exchange for 500 or worse seasons.

There is a really good argument to be made that the cowboys are that team with a missing piece or two that should go the all in route, I just also see the side where if the cowboys don’t win a championship the next year or two after going all in where it may be 2030 before this team gets back to even where they are now.
Spot on, and the dictating factor is probably whether Dak is the QB to hand the All-In Chips. He may be, however, the end of last season (as @Hawkeye0202 articulated so well) has brought up the question marks (especially as the subsequent risk may be catastrophic).
 

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No, the CAP is real. It's those who look at the extremes and say ..we can create $50-$80m without factoring in the effects that are either misled or deliberately ignoring the reality.

How??? These posts mentioning CAP manipulation, never quite factoring in future years.
Restructures, cut / trade aging vets, backload contracts etc…

In a few years Daks contract will be off the books and we’ll have a rookie QB deal to reset with…at which point Jerry will come up with new excuses on how we can’t spend in FA.
 

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And plenty of teams across the league did worse than the cowboys last year too. If you want to go all in and start a rebuild in 2024 or 2025 I’m not completely against it, but won’t blindly ignore the consequences either. It’s worked out quite well for the Rams who won a Super Bowl but may be in for 5 years of a last place team to show for it. The jets from their last playoff push went into cap hell and have been in recovery mode ever since. New Orleans continues to push their cap hits off in exchange for 500 or worse seasons.

There is a really good argument to be made that the cowboys are that team with a missing piece or two that should go the all in route, I just also see the side where if the cowboys don’t win a championship the next year or two after going all in where it may be 2030 before this team gets back to even where they are now.
The Jets just suck at evaluating QB talent…they continue to strike out.

If you give them a league average QB they’re probably a playoff contender.
 

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Restructures, cut / trade aging vets, backload contracts etc…

In a few years Daks contract will be off the books and we’ll have a rookie QB deal to reset with…at which point Jerry will come up with new excuses on how we can’t spend in FA.
The facts of Free Agency is that we've never got the available CAP to compete against EVERY OTHER TEAM for the top players. It's not really dependent upon what CAP Space we've got, it's the comparative amount compared to everyone else.
 

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The facts of Free Agency is that we've never got the available CAP to compete against EVERY OTHER TEAM for the top players. It's not really dependent upon what CAP Space we've got, it's the comparative amount compared to everyone else.
Maybe not for the top stars, but just do freaking something. You can’t rely on the draft to fill holes…it’s not realistic and it makes you reach for need.

I don’t even want to sign superstars - I want us to sign league average vets to fill glaring holes…we don’t even do that.

The Jones have been and remain the problem. They were late on Dak and overpaid, they gave a RB a huge contract which is incredibly stupid, mishandled the Cooper situation etc…the list goes on but this whole “we can’t sign FAs bc of Daks contract” is just crap.

Most reasonable fans don’t expect them to go out and get every big name FA out there…just be active and improve the roster. Just try…
 

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Maybe not for the top stars, but just do freaking something. You can’t rely on the draft to fill holes…it’s not realistic and it makes you reach for need.

I don’t even want to sign superstars - I want us to sign league average vets to fill glaring holes…we don’t even do that.

The Jones have been and remain the problem. They were late on Dak and overpaid, they gave a RB a huge contract which is incredibly stupid, mishandled the Cooper situation etc…the list goes on but this whole “we can’t sign FAs bc of Daks contract” is just crap.

Most reasonable fans don’t expect them to go out and get every big name FA out there…just be active and improve the roster. Just try…
The bottom line is that paying your QB does affect the roster... a case in point Chiefs and Tyreek.
'Doing Something' is difficult as our model is to extend contracts, not retook via trade and pick and choosing the complimentary pieces.
 

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The bottom line is that paying your QB does affect the roster... a case in point Chiefs and Tyreek.
'Doing Something' is difficult as our model is to extend contracts, not retook via trade and pick and choosing the complimentary pieces.
Of course it does…paying anyone a lot of money effects the roster.

But Jones clamoring on about how we can’t be active in FA is crap. It might take some creativity but it’s 100% doable.

If it doesn’t change we’ll get the same results we’ve gotten the last 25 years.
 

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While that’s true that $50M doesn’t just go away, you just push the bill down the road.
Yeah, this isn't something you do for everyone. It's not something you'd do for Zeke or any player on their way out.
 

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I mean......you gave Zeke a bad contract and gave Gallup that contract coming off that injury. Surely that 77 mil guarenteed worth of bad decisions on top of trading Cooper for peanuts has something to do with it too.
and franchised a TE. They act like they are scrimping....it is ridiculous. On JJ for picking and spending wrong around him.
 
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