Jerry and Jason

skinsscalper;4188303 said:
I'll go on record to say that I'm glad that it wasn't just the fans that were upset with the play calling in the game. I'm glad that the man in charge was just as upset. I HOPE that it leads to some change (and, no, I don't want Garrett fired/released).

I think it's safe to say, at this point, that it's time to tap the brakes on the greatness of Jason Garrett. The guy is a game above .500 (since taking over) with arguably one of the most talented offenses in the league at the skill positions. For the 2011 season he's served up a .400 ball club with one of the best defenses in the league and an offense that reads like a Pro Bowl roster. Absolutely unacceptable.

The lack of attention to producing an effective running game is absolutely unacceptable. The apologists will be out in force with the "Our O-line isn't big/good enough for a good running game." Well, the majority of those same fans were singing the praises of this being "Garrett's team", now. Guess what? Then he gets to eat **** for either failing to get the right guys in here or for not coaching a run blocking scheme that plays to their strengths. Shanahan made a living out of running the ball with undersized quick moving O-linemen (something that was supposed to be a strength with this O-line). Yet Garrett has us, again, at the bottom of the league in rushing (27th in the league IIRC). I'd like to put a foot in the balls of the next guy that says that running the ball isn't important in today's NFL. Because, quite frankly, that guy is too stupid to even discuss the game. Pull up all the stats you want and right afterward take a look at the Lions, Patriots, and Jets games and tell me that being able to run the ball and control the game wouldn't have went a mile towards winning those games. The only thing more demoralizing to the opposing defense than constantly staying on the field after 3rd downs is to have a team ram the ball down their throat when they know they need the ball back, and soon.

We're not to the point that heads need to roll. Garrett is a bright mind and the guy has a ton of potential. However, the fact that he's failing to the point that his owner speaking publicly about it (in the heat of the moment, or not) speaks volumes. The thing that was so disheartening was the fact that throughout the game Garrett tried to stay balanced,even though his running game wasn't very effective. He still tried to maintain some balance to keep the defense honest. On the final drive he threw balance out the window and went with the weakness of our offense to try and win the game. Absolutely mind-bending. I have no problem running the ball in that series, but for every single play? Really? Not a single call that plays to the strength of your offense? You've got Dez, Witten, Miles, and Romo on the field and you don't trust a a single one of them to get you ten yards in three plays? Unacceptable on every level.

Jones saw it. He knew it. He let his emotions get the best of him and he spoke about it. I think Jones should have held his tongue and taken it up with Garrett, but I do take relief in the fact that the owner has seen enough, also.

I completely agree with this post. I'm glad Garrett is being held accountable by the people that matter most. I don't care about the form in which that occurs. Anyone who has rooted for the Cowboys for more than 3 days realizes that JJ is gonna meddle and even complain in the media about the team. He even called Parcells out for benching Bledsoe in favor of Romo after that Giants game. This has been going on for years.

Read any non-biased media article or watch any NFL recap show and you'll find people who could give two hoots about the Cowboys criticizing Garrett and saying that his coaching cost us that game. The bottom line is that we're 2-3 when we probably should be 4-1 in a world where Garrett doesn't get outcoached. He is not weathered in situations like this. Clearly the guy is not an idiot and will learn. I just personally am not a fan of blowing a season or two in order to get there. This team is ready now and luckily some complacent clown Cowboys fans like OP are not running the organization. There should be tons of accountability when people are paying thousands to watch these games and coaches are making millions to not screw up at their job.
 
Im allready popping my popcorn. Jerry, wth did you think would happen when you hired someone with so little experience? Lolololol.
 
Falcon554;4187745 said:
Yes its his team, he can do whatever he wants, if the coach does not like it, then he can quit. We can all sit here and cry and whine about JJ but its his team, his money and nothing we or anyone else says will change 1 thing about that man.

So accept it or dont watch anymore. I know we all at times want to strangle the man but find me an owner with more love for his team? does not make him right or wrong but its just the way it is.

Don't bother. Some people just shouldn't be starting threads.
 
Cochese;4188596 said:
Im allready popping my popcorn. Jerry, wth did you think would happen when you hired someone with so little experience? Lolololol.

Exactly. Jerry is starting to realize his golden boy is actually more of a copper/nickel mix.
 
UVAwahoos;4188591 said:
I completely agree with this post. I'm glad Garrett is being held accountable by the people that matter most. I don't care about the form in which that occurs. Anyone who has rooted for the Cowboys for more than 3 days realizes that JJ is gonna meddle and even complain in the media about the team. He even called Parcells out for benching Bledsoe in favor of Romo after that Giants game. This has been going on for years.

Read any non-biased media article or watch any NFL recap show and you'll find people who could give two hoots about the Cowboys criticizing Garrett and saying that his coaching cost us that game. The bottom line is that we're 2-3 when we probably should be 4-1 in a world where Garrett doesn't get outcoached. He is not weathered in situations like this. Clearly the guy is not an idiot and will learn. I just personally am not a fan of blowing a season or two in order to get there. This team is ready now and luckily some complacent clown Cowboys fans like OP are not running the organization. There should be tons of accountability when people are paying thousands to watch these games and coaches are making millions to not screw up at their job.

If you weren't so one dimensional and ignorantly amusing I would test out that ignore feature.... I've always wondered what it would do?
 
UVAwahoos;4188603 said:
Exactly. Jerry is starting to realize his golden boy is actually more of a copper/nickel mix.

Ahhhhh, you and Cochese now!! Wow, that's a surprise. Wahoo and Cochese, hehe.
 
shockandroll;4188571 said:
It was terrible to do it right after the game as he did. Jones was correct in what he said, but not where or to whom he said it.

I agree with you. Like I said, I think many of us felt like Jerry did, but a bad place and time to voice it. I don't take issue with run #1, it was run #2 that I wish was different. By the time of run #3 I believe it was the proper call. And all in all, the reasoning was sound enough, it just didn't work out.
 
rcaldw;4188606 said:
If you weren't so one dimensional and ignorantly amusing I would test out that ignore feature.... I've always wondered what it would do?

Haha that would only be an insult if you had an quality or substance behind any of your posts. You're a hopeless Garrett homer and your comments are just as "one dimensional" in the opposite direction. It's even better bc you actually think you're saying important things.

Garrett screwed up two weeks in a row, the team is 2-3, and JJ called him on it in the heat of the moment. Sorry none of that supports your agenda. Now get back to whining...
 
UVAwahoos;4188658 said:
Haha that would only be an insult if you had an quality or substance behind any of your posts. You're a hopeless Garrett homer and your comments are just as "one dimensional" in the opposite direction. It's even better bc you actually think you're saying important things.

Garrett screwed up two weeks in a row, the team is 2-3, and JJ called him on it in the heat of the moment. Sorry none of that supports your agenda. Now get back to whining...

Ok, gotta take the plunge.. never done it before but... ignore feature.
 
UVAwahoos;4188553 said:
Of course you did...



Welcome to Dallas. The owner is a passionate fan of the team. I'm glad the owner is less complacent than some of the fans. What's pathetic is that ur faction can't even tolerate the manner in which ur golden boy is criticized...even it's by the person writing his paychecks.
Jerry Jones has proven for decades now that he is going to publicly say whatever he wants no matter the consequence. He has that right. He owns the team, but I would have to ask anyone is it appropriate? Could he have said the exact same thing (and more) privately?

It is not really about the content. It is about the delivery.
UVAwahoos;4188553 said:
Dumbest thread of the day.
Not really. Are you going to create a thread today?
 
DallasEast;4188675 said:
Jerry Jones has proven for decades now that he is going to publicly say whatever he wants no matter the consequence. He has that right. He owns the team, but I would have to ask anyone is it appropriate? Can he have said the exact same thing (and more) privately?

It is not really about the content. It is about the delivery.
Not really. Are you going to create a thread today?

Ah, now I see how the ignore feature works... it shows that Wahoo posted, but it doesn't show his comments.

He and Cochese completely ignore the original question and just run off on their anti-Garrett rants. After awhile it gets monotonous.
 
rcaldw;4188682 said:
Ah, now I see how the ignore feature works... it shows that Wahoo posted, but it doesn't show his comments.

He and Cochese completely ignore the original question and just run off on their anti-Garrett rants. After awhile it gets monotonous.
Agendas often are.
 
I'm torn between my disdain for Jerry and my complete apathy toward Jason Garrett here.

On one hand, Jerry Jones disgusts me every time he opens his mouth and he has no business speaking on matters like this, especially to the media. But he's undermined his coaches forever and that's never going to change.

On the other hand, I'm glad he's starting to realize what a mistake he made with Garrett. Too bad there's nobody to tell Jerry that him being GM is an even bigger mistake.
 
DOUBLE WING;4188738 said:
I'm torn between my disdain for Jerry and my complete apathy toward Jason Garrett here.

On one hand, Jerry Jones disgusts me every time he opens his mouth and he has no business speaking on matters like this, especially to the media. But he's undermined his coaches forever and that's never going to change.

On the other hand, I'm glad he's starting to realize what a mistake he made with Garrett. Too bad there's nobody to tell Jerry that him being GM is an even bigger mistake.

That's a great Steve Jobs quote. I think it can apply to football too, and a lot of other things.
 
anava;4188770 said:
Which thread was the comment/ video in?

There wasn't one (to my knowledge), I was just asking a question about what has been shown on TV and talked about in the newspaper and internet news.
 
DallasEast;4188675 said:
Jerry Jones has proven for decades now that he is going to publicly say whatever he wants no matter the consequence. He has that right. He owns the team, but I would have to ask anyone is it appropriate? Could he have said the exact same thing (and more) privately?

Curious how many people who are questioning the platform of Jerry's remarks are actually season ticket holders or pay to watch any of these games?

I personally like that there's is accountability here and that I know about it. The Cowboys are not some private organization where things should be swept under the rug, and this is not the 1960s anymore. People pay thousands of dollars to watch these games now and coaches make millions. The level of tolerance is just shorter. It has to be, considering the higher stakes. Plus, Jerry is passionate and the media knows exactly how to bait him into these traps.

I find it hard to support Jerry as a GM, but I love him as an owner bc he's not willing to tolerate these types of ridiculous coaching blunders. He wants to win now. I can support that. Which again is why I am curious as to how many people who find Jerry publicly calling out Garrett, and who are willing to support Garrett and wait him out 3-4 years to see what happens, are actually invested in this team more than simply owning a tshirt, browsing cowboyszone, being a fan for a few decades, and watching the games on TV?
 
The sooner everyone realizes Jerry is the real problem here, the better off we are.

I don't blame Garrett. He shouldn't be our coach but I would have taken the job if I were him too. It's not his fault that Jerry still goes to sleep with nightmares of losing Sean Payton every night.
 

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