Jerry Can't Leave Well Enough Alone

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All Jerry had to do was keep Kris Richard, hand him the entire defense back in 2018, and this team would be 3 years into building a Doomsday type defense instead of drafting the foundation of one.

Interchangeable DE to DT defensive linemen, fast play making LBs, and tall DBs that can knock away or intercept the ball. Sounds familiar?

I was concerned with Quinn hiring because of Lionel Vital at Director of Scouting ind Dallas. Vital was in Atlanta as the Director of Player Personnel (See Will McClay). They had the Vic Beasley turmoil with Drimoff bringing in Pioli who said Beasley was too small to rush the passer. Well 15.5 sacks later Vital was right but out of a job.

Jerry should be out on camera announcing picks with his grandson. That means he is not in the draft room selecting players and that is how you got Jabril Cox.

Let Owners own, Coaches coach, and Scouts/Pro personnel evaluators draft. If the Owner can stay out of the construction site, McClay and Vital can build a Super Bowl team .

Here is the Falcons 2015 and 2016 Drafts with Lionel Vital:
2015 Draft
Round Pick # Overall Name Position College
1 8 8 Vic Beasley Linebacker Clemson - Pro Bowler
2 10 42 Jalen Collins Cornerback LSU - Starter
3 9 73 Tevin Coleman Running Back Indiana - Starter
4 8 107 Justin Hardy Wide Receiver East Carolina
5 1 137 Grady Jarrett Defensive Tackle Clemson - Pro Bowler
7 8 225 Jake Rodgers Offensive Tackle Eastern Washington
7 32 249 Akeem King Defensive Back San Jose State
2016 Draft
Round Pick # Overall Name Position College
1 17 17 Keanu Neal Safety Florida - Pro Bowler
2 21 52 Deion Jones Linebacker LSU - Pro Bowler
3 18 81 Austin Hooper Tight End Stanford - Pro Bowler
4 17 115 De'Vondre Campbell Linebacker Minnesota - Starter
6 20 195 Wes Schweitzer Guard San Jose State
7 17 238 Devin Fuller Wide Receiver UCLA
Why ppl base their love for coaches and players because they tell and scream is beyond me. Kris Richard was/is not a good coach. Period.
 

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All Jerry had to do was keep Kris Richard, hand him the entire defense back in 2018, and this team would be 3 years into building a Doomsday type defense instead of drafting the foundation of one.

Interchangeable DE to DT defensive linemen, fast play making LBs, and tall DBs that can knock away or intercept the ball. Sounds familiar?

I was concerned with Quinn hiring because of Lionel Vital at Director of Scouting ind Dallas. Vital was in Atlanta as the Director of Player Personnel (See Will McClay). They had the Vic Beasley turmoil with Drimoff bringing in Pioli who said Beasley was too small to rush the passer. Well 15.5 sacks later Vital was right but out of a job.

Jerry should be out on camera announcing picks with his grandson. That means he is not in the draft room selecting players and that is how you got Jabril Cox.

Let Owners own, Coaches coach, and Scouts/Pro personnel evaluators draft. If the Owner can stay out of the construction site, McClay and Vital can build a Super Bowl team .

Here is the Falcons 2015 and 2016 Drafts with Lionel Vital:
2015 Draft
Round Pick # Overall Name Position College
1 8 8 Vic Beasley Linebacker Clemson - Pro Bowler
2 10 42 Jalen Collins Cornerback LSU - Starter
3 9 73 Tevin Coleman Running Back Indiana - Starter
4 8 107 Justin Hardy Wide Receiver East Carolina
5 1 137 Grady Jarrett Defensive Tackle Clemson - Pro Bowler
7 8 225 Jake Rodgers Offensive Tackle Eastern Washington
7 32 249 Akeem King Defensive Back San Jose State
2016 Draft
Round Pick # Overall Name Position College
1 17 17 Keanu Neal Safety Florida - Pro Bowler
2 21 52 Deion Jones Linebacker LSU - Pro Bowler
3 18 81 Austin Hooper Tight End Stanford - Pro Bowler
4 17 115 De'Vondre Campbell Linebacker Minnesota - Starter
6 20 195 Wes Schweitzer Guard San Jose State
7 17 238 Devin Fuller Wide Receiver UCLA
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It was my impression that Richard wore out his welcome here and in Seattle.New Orleans might be happy with him
 

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Agree.

100 percent.

They let KRichard walk, so they could let big Mike hire his buddy Nolan.

which was a freaking disaster. Shocker.

then Jerry fires Nolan, and big Mike acts like nothing happened.

Atlanta fired Quinn, so Jerry hires him to be DC.

meanwhile, KRichard signs up with Atlanta.


You can’t make this up.
 

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All Jerry had to do was keep Kris Richard, hand him the entire defense back in 2018, and this team would be 3 years into building a Doomsday type defense instead of drafting the foundation of one.

Interchangeable DE to DT defensive linemen, fast play making LBs, and tall DBs that can knock away or intercept the ball. Sounds familiar?

I was concerned with Quinn hiring because of Lionel Vital at Director of Scouting ind Dallas. Vital was in Atlanta as the Director of Player Personnel (See Will McClay). They had the Vic Beasley turmoil with Drimoff bringing in Pioli who said Beasley was too small to rush the passer. Well 15.5 sacks later Vital was right but out of a job.

Jerry should be out on camera announcing picks with his grandson. That means he is not in the draft room selecting players and that is how you got Jabril Cox.

Let Owners own, Coaches coach, and Scouts/Pro personnel evaluators draft. If the Owner can stay out of the construction site, McClay and Vital can build a Super Bowl team .

Here is the Falcons 2015 and 2016 Drafts with Lionel Vital:
2015 Draft
Round Pick # Overall Name Position College
1 8 8 Vic Beasley Linebacker Clemson - Pro Bowler
2 10 42 Jalen Collins Cornerback LSU - Starter
3 9 73 Tevin Coleman Running Back Indiana - Starter
4 8 107 Justin Hardy Wide Receiver East Carolina
5 1 137 Grady Jarrett Defensive Tackle Clemson - Pro Bowler
7 8 225 Jake Rodgers Offensive Tackle Eastern Washington
7 32 249 Akeem King Defensive Back San Jose State
2016 Draft
Round Pick # Overall Name Position College
1 17 17 Keanu Neal Safety Florida - Pro Bowler
2 21 52 Deion Jones Linebacker LSU - Pro Bowler
3 18 81 Austin Hooper Tight End Stanford - Pro Bowler
4 17 115 De'Vondre Campbell Linebacker Minnesota - Starter
6 20 195 Wes Schweitzer Guard San Jose State
7 17 238 Devin Fuller Wide Receiver UCLA
If Richards is so good, why isn’t he a DC or HC somewhere?
 

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Richard was such a good DC he couldn't get a job for a year after leaving Dallas and is now just a DBs coach in New Orleans.

And frankly, when we hired McCarthy, it should be up to the HC to decide his DC. Foisting Richard on McCarthy would be a typical dumb Cowboys move.

Now McCarthy picked a boob of a coach in Nolan but making him take Richard wouldn't have helped either.
 

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All Jerry had to do was keep Kris Richard, hand him the entire defense back in 2018, and this team would be 3 years into building a Doomsday type defense instead of drafting the foundation of one.

Interchangeable DE to DT defensive linemen, fast play making LBs, and tall DBs that can knock away or intercept the ball. Sounds familiar?

I was concerned with Quinn hiring because of Lionel Vital at Director of Scouting ind Dallas. Vital was in Atlanta as the Director of Player Personnel (See Will McClay). They had the Vic Beasley turmoil with Drimoff bringing in Pioli who said Beasley was too small to rush the passer. Well 15.5 sacks later Vital was right but out of a job.

Jerry should be out on camera announcing picks with his grandson. That means he is not in the draft room selecting players and that is how you got Jabril Cox.

Let Owners own, Coaches coach, and Scouts/Pro personnel evaluators draft. If the Owner can stay out of the construction site, McClay and Vital can build a Super Bowl team .

Here is the Falcons 2015 and 2016 Drafts with Lionel Vital:
2015 Draft
Round Pick # Overall Name Position College
1 8 8 Vic Beasley Linebacker Clemson - Pro Bowler
2 10 42 Jalen Collins Cornerback LSU - Starter
3 9 73 Tevin Coleman Running Back Indiana - Starter
4 8 107 Justin Hardy Wide Receiver East Carolina
5 1 137 Grady Jarrett Defensive Tackle Clemson - Pro Bowler
7 8 225 Jake Rodgers Offensive Tackle Eastern Washington
7 32 249 Akeem King Defensive Back San Jose State
2016 Draft
Round Pick # Overall Name Position College
1 17 17 Keanu Neal Safety Florida - Pro Bowler
2 21 52 Deion Jones Linebacker LSU - Pro Bowler
3 18 81 Austin Hooper Tight End Stanford - Pro Bowler
4 17 115 De'Vondre Campbell Linebacker Minnesota - Starter
6 20 195 Wes Schweitzer Guard San Jose State
7 17 238 Devin Fuller Wide Receiver UCLA
Where is Kris Richard now?
 

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Richard and Marinelli were on the wrong page that final year. It was awful. I would say and epic disaster until I saw Nolan coach!
 

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Yaknow, I understand sometimes we bemoan the loss of soandso or soandso. It's usually a player. But, Richard? Never understood the extreme love he gets by some on here. Dude was an abject failure. Was Nolan worse? Debatable, but now we're moving on. As we should.
 

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Richard was fiery and animated on the sidelines giving the average Joe football fan the impression that that meant he was a good coach and would therefore be a great DC. The rest of the NFL disagreed apparently, as he is now a defensive backs coach. I don't think we missed out on much.
 

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Kris was never given full control as Marinelli was the DC.

All I know is Kris Richard improved the areas he could control in 2018 and as a defensive coach he never had a losing season. He and Dennis Thurman were responsible for too many Pro Bowl DBs and great defenses for anyone to say they did not have a great impact on great defenses. Byron Jones had his best years under Richard.

Remember Marinelli DL stunts cost us that playoff game in LA.

I would call that fair.
Richard was either unlucky to be under Marineli or just a mediocre coach . We will not find out . But he was part of one of the worst defensive units ever for rhe cowboys .
 

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All Jerry had to do was keep Kris Richard, hand him the entire defense back in 2018, and this team would be 3 years into building a Doomsday type defense instead of drafting the foundation of one.

Interchangeable DE to DT defensive linemen, fast play making LBs, and tall DBs that can knock away or intercept the ball. Sounds familiar?

I was concerned with Quinn hiring because of Lionel Vital at Director of Scouting ind Dallas. Vital was in Atlanta as the Director of Player Personnel (See Will McClay). They had the Vic Beasley turmoil with Drimoff bringing in Pioli who said Beasley was too small to rush the passer. Well 15.5 sacks later Vital was right but out of a job.

Jerry should be out on camera announcing picks with his grandson. That means he is not in the draft room selecting players and that is how you got Jabril Cox.

Let Owners own, Coaches coach, and Scouts/Pro personnel evaluators draft. If the Owner can stay out of the construction site, McClay and Vital can build a Super Bowl team .

Here is the Falcons 2015 and 2016 Drafts with Lionel Vital:


Im curious.....Have the bears and Broncos owners stood back and let the coaches coach and the others do their jobs? Hows that worked out for them?
 

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From my understanding the D was a mess the last year KR was here. Too many coaches wearing hats without a single direct voice. It wasn't him I believe he max out the players. But KR should've gotten true chance at DC here. Too bad by the time the season was over he was ready to go.
 

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Agree.

100 percent.

They let KRichard walk, so they could let big Mike hire his buddy Nolan.

which was a freaking disaster. Shocker.

then Jerry fires Nolan, and big Mike acts like nothing happened.

Atlanta fired Quinn, so Jerry hires him to be DC.

meanwhile, KRichard signs up with Atlanta.


You can’t make this up.
He signed up with New Orleans.
 

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Remember when everyone thought or wanted Richard to take over for Garrett? Good times.
 
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