Jerry does not want RW to get nervous, per Dallas News

[igtmfo]

From Todd Archer's blog:

At the NFL Scouting Combine owner and general manager Jerry Jones said he wanted his players to be "nervous" in 2010 so as to avoid complacency. Yet when the talk turned to Roy Williams, Jones was protective of the wide out.

How does he reconcile the two options?

"You don't need to manufacture things to make Roy nervous, just our situation," Jones said, "and as a matter of fact his ability to handle the things that would make any of us nervous has been impressive to me and is one of the things we're encouraged about. He gets that from enough places but his ability to handle that from enough places is a big plus."

 

[JBond]

I would be happy if Roy is not mentioned again on this board until training camp. Can the mods create a Roy Zone? That would help avoid the clutter of Roy W threads in the fan zone.

 

[Hook'em#11]

Oh for the love of god .

Jerry,

REMOVE THE FRIGGIN 9 MILLION DOLLAR GLASSES..


This guy is the NEW Gallowaste.

 

[Doomsday101]

From Todd Archer's blog:

At the NFL Scouting Combine owner and general manager Jerry Jones said he wanted his players to be "nervous" in 2010 so as to avoid complacency. Yet when the talk turned to Roy Williams, Jones was protective of the wide out.

How does he reconcile the two options?

"You don't need to manufacture things to make Roy nervous, just our situation," Jones said, "and as a matter of fact his ability to handle the things that would make any of us nervous has been impressive to me and is one of the things we're encouraged about. He gets that from enough places but his ability to handle that from enough places is a big plus."

Not many players are getting hammered the way RW is. I think he wants to show RW that they still believe in him however I also think it will be a short leash for RW he either comes out and plays well right off the bat or he will see him min. go to other players

 

[igtmfo]

I think this thread is significant, because THAT IS THE MOST INSANE QUOTE I'VE EVER READ FROM A HUMAN BEING.

If it's more about Roy, sorry. It deserves reading.

I hate laughing at Jerry, but doesn't this make even the most ardent fan worry?

OK, I'll laugh instead of cry:

:laugh2:

 

[Doomsday101]

I think this thread is significant, because THAT IS THE MOST INSANE QUOTE I'VE EVER READ FROM A HUMAN BEING.

If it's more about Roy, sorry. It deserves reading.

I hate laughing at Jerry, but doesn't this make even the most ardent fan worry?

OK, I'll laugh instead of cry:

:laugh2:

Why would I worry that in March they are showing confidence in RW? He saw his min slide last season and if he does not pick it up to start this coming season RW will see that happen again and likely spend his last season in Dallas.

Is Jerry trying to make this deal workout in our favor? you better believe he is, it is a big enough deal you don't just walk away from it without doing everything in your power to give the chance to work

 

[casmith07]

Roy didn't do much in 2008 after the trade.

He improved in 2009, albeit not by a whole lot.

We'll see in 2010. If he can't get it going after this year, you have to make a move. I'll hold out hope for one more season, especially since the first one was mired with Pacman drama, TO, Romo's injury, among other issues.

 

[speedkilz88]

I think this thread is significant, because THAT IS THE MOST INSANE QUOTE I'VE EVER READ FROM A HUMAN BEING.

If it's more about Roy, sorry. It deserves reading.

I hate laughing at Jerry, but doesn't this make even the most ardent fan worry?

OK, I'll laugh instead of cry:

:laugh2:

Do you even read others post? Dooms pretty much spelled it out for you. Roy is getting hammered enough from fans and the media that he doesn't feel its beneficial for the team to do it.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Oh for the love of god .

Jerry,

REMOVE THE FRIGGIN 9 MILLION DOLLAR GLASSES..


This guy is the NEW Gallowaste.

What do you expect Jerry to say, that Roy freaking sucks??


We all know it, but it does no good to say it to the media in freaking March. We all know that if Roy sucks it up again this year, he is gone. Jerry knows this as well, but is trying to motivate Roy by having his back.

You never told anybody that they were doing a good job, even though they werent, just to keep them trying??? What benefit is there to telling the media that Roy freaking blows???

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Do you even read others post? Dooms pretty much spelled it out for you. Roy is getting hammered enough from fans and the media that he doesn't feel its beneficial for the team to do it.

Exactly. It's kind of like what Parcells used to say... You hammer the team when it's playing well and when everyone is telling them how great they are. When they've lost, that's when you need to do the opposite and pump them up.

Jerry said clearly that there was no need to "manufacture" any more pressure on Roy. Why? Because he already has enough.

Makes sense to me.

 

[RS12]

Just wondering why everybody else on the squad is supposed to be nervous per Jerry two weeks ago but not this excuse making, chronic under achiever? If he is that emotionally fragile the NFL is not a good place for him.

 

[jimmy40]

Roy should get a raise for keeping fans who normally disappear during the offseason interested in the Cowboys.

 

[igtmfo]

Do you even read others post? Dooms pretty much spelled it out for you. Roy is getting hammered enough from fans and the media that he doesn't feel its beneficial for the team to do it.

Archer asked Jerry for his rationale. An important question. That is: hey Jerry, why the double-standard?

Jerry's reply to Archer is the most slippery, nonsensical, deer-in-the-headlights thing I've ever read. You worry about Jerry's mental these days.

He could have said: "No comment" or "We'll let these things play out on the field" or just anything.

First, it shows that Jerry can't cook up a good line of doublespeak these days. He's always been able to BS when he's had to in the past, and it has at least been logical in some alternative universe.

And secondly (sorry, standard anti-RW rant follows) it kind of reinforces many posters' worst fears: that with RW it's NOT what happens on the field, it's about Jerry's pride and his wallet hit. ....

I felt the RW double-standard recently when Wade was asked about whether RW deserved to start last season, when a writer opined that RW wasn't the second-best receiver on the team. Wade's reply didn't get much play. He said "I don't think that's true." That sounds like a equivocal, backpedaling answer. If the truth was that RW deserved starting, Wade would have said "That's not true."

 

[Alexander]

Jerry's reply to Archer is the most slippery, nonsensical, deer-in-the-headlights thing I've ever read. You worry about Jerry's mental these days.

It was nonsense and anyone who buys that it is okay to give him less pressure from those that matter because he's hearing it "enough" from fans and media really needs to get a grip.

Basically, he was admitting that yes, he was not going to hold him to that standard and he was playing on the pity that even Williams himself has used on occasion. It is ridiculous to even voice this kind of comment, because it is simply insulting to the intelligence. I do not expect him to simply join in. But trying to imply that indeed Williams will respond with a soft hand is not all that intelligent.

A player you pay that kind of price for deserves whatever barbs and criticisms that can be foisted on them. And it includes the GM foolish enough to pay that price. Jones was completely schooled by Martin Mayhew on that trade and is fortunate he is not catching more for it. Williams' public commentary on the criticism deflects blame from the real culprit and that is Jones. Williams is simply thin-skinned enough that he invites more criticism, which is good for Jones in the long run.

 

[Alexander]

Exactly. It's kind of like what Parcells used to say... You hammer the team when it's playing well and when everyone is telling them how great they are. When they've lost, that's when you need to do the opposite and pump them up.

Jerry said clearly that there was no need to "manufacture" any more pressure on Roy. Why? Because he already has enough.

Makes sense to me.

So you are saying Coach Parcells would respond exactly as Jones is right now if he were in that role? You are out of your mind.

 

[Doomsday101]

Archer asked Jerry for his rationale. An important question. That is: hey Jerry, why the double-standard?

Jerry's reply to Archer is the most slippery, nonsensical, deer-in-the-headlights thing I've ever read. You worry about Jerry's mental these days.

He could have said: "No comment" or "We'll let these things play out on the field" or just anything.

First, it shows that Jerry can't cook up a good line of doublespeak these days. He's always been able to BS when he's had to in the past, and it has at least been logical in some alternative universe.

And secondly (sorry, standard anti-RW rant follows) it kind of reinforces many posters' worst fears: that with RW it's NOT what happens on the field, it's about Jerry's pride and his wallet hit. ....

I felt the RW double-standard recently when Wade was asked about whether RW deserved to start last season, when a writer opined that RW wasn't the second-best receiver on the team. Wade's reply didn't get much play. He said "I don't think that's true." That sounds like a equivocal, backpedaling answer. If the truth was that RW deserved starting, Wade would have said "That's not true."

If there was this double standard please explain why RW min went down late in the season? Of course Jerry wants this deal to workout what GM wouldn't want a deal where you gave up draft choices including a 1st not to work out and give it every chance you could. Jerry no doubt want RW to succeed but he is also the one who wanted to see Ogletree get more time which came at the expense of RW so I do think winning takes a front row seat with Jerry over this idea of pride or ego

 

[Doomsday101]

It was nonsense and anyone who buys that it is okay to give him less pressure from those that matter because he's hearing it "enough" from fans and media really needs to get a grip.

Basically, he was admitting that yes, he was not going to hold him to that standard and he was playing on the pity that even Williams himself has used on occasion. It is ridiculous to even voice this kind of comment, because it is simply insulting to the intelligence. I do not expect him to simply join in. But trying to imply that indeed Williams will respond with a soft hand is not all that intelligent.

A player you pay that kind of price for deserves whatever barbs and criticisms that can be foisted on them. And it includes the GM foolish enough to pay that price. Jones was completely schooled by Martin Mayhew on that trade and is fortunate he is not catching more for it. Williams' public commentary on the criticism deflects blame from the real culprit and that is Jones. Williams is simply thin-skinned enough that he invites more criticism, which is good for Jones in the long run.

And when do all players get treated the same? Jimmy Johnson has even said some guys need to be held by the hand and other kicked in the butt not every guy is going to respond the same way which is why guys are not treated exactly the same.

RW does not need the organization coming down on him as the media has done it serve no purpose and RW is smart enough to know in the end it comes down to production if he fails to produce he will not be around long

 

[21Savage]

So Jerry says that Roy is already facing enough pressure to make all of us nervous but has handled it pretty well and that's been a big plus.................................

Somehow, that lead to a blog title of Jerry doesn't want Roy to be nervous and more fan bashing? Okay, I get it now

 

[Doomsday101]

So Jerry says that Roy is already facing enough pressure to make all of us nervous but has handled it pretty well and that's been a big plus.................................

Somehow, that lead to a blog title of Jerry doesn't want Roy to be nervous and more fan bashing? Okay, I get it now

I think it just trying to let RW know they believe in him no matter what anyone else thinks about him. The people who mean the most who actually have a real say so believes in him. In the end RW has to produce if he doesn't then he will not be around much longer

 

[Alexander]

And when do all players get treated the same? Jimmy Johnson has even said some guys need to be held by the hand and other kicked in the butt not every guy is going to respond the same way which is why guys are not treated exactly the same.

He also believed in not kicking the butt of the performers and being ruthless with those that did not produce. Thankfully, Phillips is around and allows Jones to dictate the course of action. Williams' special brand of underachieving would have a hard time flying with the likes of Johnson without an endorsement from up high.

RW does not need the organization coming down on him as the media has done it serve no purpose and RW is smart enough to know in the end it comes down to production if he fails to produce he will not be around long

He will be around as long as Jones feels there is any face he can save. It is too soon after a year. But coddling him in some vain attempt to insulate him from criticism has a slim chance of succeeding. Williams has produced one quality season since he has been a professional. Other than that, he was afforded every luxury and benefit of the doubt, from Permian HS to the University of Texas. He even had Millen watching out for him until he was shown the door. It is not surprising Detroit got rid of him as soon as they could. Luckily, they had a sucker waiting on them in Jones.

The organization, namely Jones, is pursuing this with a personal interest because his reputation is linked because of the price he personally paid for a player he clearly coveted. He likes Williams personally. He honestly does. And we have seen the same type of behavior with other pets he has adopted and sometimes with disasterous results.

It is not the same as a head coach playing mind games with a player to motivate them. It is not the same as a coach giving a break to a player under pressure. This is full blown denial at work by an owner who has a difficult time admitting that possibly he made a serious mistake.