Jerry does not want RW to get nervous, per Dallas News

[dogberry]

How many balls a game is the 2nd receiver going to get in this offense?

 

[Doomsday101]

He also believed in not kicking the butt of the performers and being ruthless with those that did not produce. Thankfully, Phillips is around and allows Jones to dictate the course of action. Williams' special brand of underachieving would have a hard time flying with the likes of Johnson without an endorsement from up high.



He will be around as long as Jones feels there is any face he can save. It is too soon after a year. But coddling him in some vain attempt to insulate him from criticism has a slim chance of succeeding. Williams has produced one quality season since he has been a professional. Other than that, he was afforded every luxury, from Permian HS to the University of Texas.

The organization, namely Jones, is pursuing this with a personal interest because his reputation is linked because of the price he personally paid for a player he clearly coveted. He likes Williams personally. He honestly does. And we have seen the same type of behavior with other pets he has adopted and sometimes with disasterous results.

It is not the same as a head coach playing mind games with a player to motivate them. It is not the same as a coach giving a break to a player under pressure. This is full blown denial at work by an owner who has a difficult time admitting that possibly he made a serious mistake.

Jimmy stated that not every guy responds the same and no he did not kick every one butt even guys who were not top players you try to find what buttons to push on a player not every person on a 53 man roster is the same Jimmy understood physiology which was his major in college and stated that simple fact. Some guys go into a shell when you lash out at them while other guys that is the only way to get through to them

Jerry reputation is always on the line RW did not change that hell guys have been whining about Jerry since 1989. No doubt Jerry wants this deal to work we gave up a lot, for us to just walk away from it that would be stupid in my opinion that after 1.5 season we throw our hands up and walk away.
Jerry is trying to show the organization has confidence in RW that he can get it turned around but in the end RW either produces or doesn't and if he fails then chances are he will be gone in the meantime why dog pile on RW he catches enough heat from those on the outside

Lastly Jerry is also the GM not just the owner so what he is saying is not any different than many other GM in the league.

 

[Doomsday101]

How many balls a game is the 2nd receiver going to get in this offense?

He can get allot, Austin had 81 catches and Witten had 94 catches, if we can get more production from the #2 WR spotit could affect Witten total but be more beneficial to the overall team

 

[Alexander]

Jimmy stated that not every guy responds the same and no he did not kick every one butt even guys who were not top players you try to find what buttons to push on a player not every person on a 53 man roster is the same Jimmy understood physiology

I do not think this means what you think it means.

And if Jones is attempting to play "physiologist" here, he is doing it wrong with a player who has shown time and time again that he is entitled and has skirted by practically everywhere he has been because his status was tied directly to the reputation of the decision maker.

Lastly Jerry is also the GM not just the owner so what he is saying is not any different than many other GM in the league.

I do not see a lot of GMs allowing themselves to publicly coddle bad trades to this degree.

The problem here is Jones is just as sensitive to the criticisms and he is spinning his best public face to what will be a louder and louder chorus the more Williams fails to respond.

 

[Alexander]

How many balls a game is the 2nd receiver going to get in this offense?

How many balls would say a Patrick Crayton be allowed to drop before he would start getting criticism from the owner/GM?

I am well beyond the stage I want Williams to be a number one. He has never been and never will be that. I would just like a consistent threat in the role he apparently has relegated himself to and fewer excuses from the organization when he fails to do so.

 

[Doomsday101]

I do not think this means what you think it means.

And if Jones is attempting to play "physiologist" here, he is doing it wrong with a player who has shown time and time again that he is entitled and has skirted by practically everywhere he has been because his status was tied directly to the reputation of the decision maker.



I do not see a lot of GMs allowing themselves to publicly coddle bad trades to this degree.

The problem here is Jones is just as sensitive to the criticisms and he is spinning his best public face to what will be a louder and louder chorus the more Williams fails to respond.

I think Jones is doing what he feels will help RW the most if you disagree fine. You have your own spin on things JJT pretty much said the same thing when he said why would Jerry come down on RW when so many outside of the organization is doing that what good comes of it? None all your do is driving a guy’s confidence even further down. Jerry showing faith in the guy is not going to hurt 1 single thing and in the end it still will come down to production if RW produces it helps this team if he fails he will be gone.

As for Jerry being sensitive please the guy has been taking BS since 1989 when he was blamed about Tom Landry and people have never let up on him if Jerry was that sensitive he would have stepped aside Jerry got big ones and he is not afraid to do what he feels is right nor is he sensitive to catching heat

 

[Idgit]

So you are saying Coach Parcells would respond exactly as Jones is right now if he were in that role? You are out of your mind.

Actually, he's just telling you what Parcels used to say in similar situations. And I think Parcels was right. In this case, Jerry probably is, too.

 

[Alexander]

As for Jerry being sensitive please the guy has been taking BS since 1989 when he was blamed about Tom Landry and people have never let up on him if Jerry was that sensitive he would have stepped aside Jerry got big ones and he is not afraid to do what he feels is right nor is he sensitive to catching heat

It is precisely Jerry's "big ones" that are on the line here. Saying he responds and is sensitive to criticism is not the same as saying he is some sort of shrinking violet. So, do not worry. I am not questioning the size of his cajones. You can still boast to your friends that your GM's bollocks are bigger than their's.

He is sensitive because he has always bristled at the idea that he has never received the proper credit. Before Parcells, there was Johnson. He always has had an "I'll show 'em" attitude and it is on full display here. When he was about the only decision maker who was willing to pay the high price the Lions demanded, that was his daring side at work.

He desperately wants to not only be recognized for his accomplishments as an owner, but a general manager/talent evaluator as well. He cares quite a bit what people think. He relishes being a risk taker and bathes in the glory when he is right. When he is wrong, it is rare he will admit it and he will doggedly defend the decisions, even to the point he is doing right now.

 

[Doomsday101]

It is precisely Jerry's "big ones" that are on the line here. Saying he responds and is sensitive to criticism is not the same as saying he is some sort of shrinking violet. So, do not worry. I am not questioning the size of his cajones. You can still boast to your friends that your GM's bollocks are bigger than their's.

He is sensitive because he has always bristled at the idea that he has never received the proper credit. Before Parcells, there was Johnson. He always has had an "I'll show 'em" attitude and it is on full display here. When he was about the only decision maker who was willing to pay the high price the Lions demanded, that was his daring side at work.

He desperately wants to not only be recognized for his accomplishments as an owner, but a general manager/talent evaluator as well. He cares quite a bit what people think. He relishes being a risk taker and bathes in the glory when he is right. When he is wrong, it is rare he will admit it and he will doggedly defend the decisions, even to the point he is doing right now.

Jerry was just as active when BP was here you act like Jerry sat in the corner and kept his mouth shut and just let big bill handle everything that is not true what so ever. There were construcitive arguements and debates when BP was here and no he did not alway get his way.

Sorry and that is also false that Jerry has seldom stood up and taken the heat and admitting mistakes. Jerry is doing what he feels is right and fact is he is going to get blasted by his critics no matter what he does no matter what he says the critics have never eased up once from 1989 to 2010.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Owner knows Williams is concerned
March, 10, 2010 Mar 108:45AM CT Comment Email Print Share

By Calvin Watkins

There is all this discussion around here about should Roy E. Williams be put on notice by the Cowboys.

In two uneventful seasons, Williams hasn't produced. Putting out the numbers again really serves no purpose, because we all know them.

But the man who signs the checks at Valley Ranch, Jerry Jones, talked about if Williams has a sense of urgency regarding his career with the Cowboys and shold he be nervous about his status.

"You don’t need to manufacture things to make Roy nervous," Jones said. "Just our situation and as a matter of fact, his ability to handle the things that would make any of us nervous has been impressive to me and it's one of the things I'm encouraged about."

Jones was asked is Williams taking enough heat?

"He's getting that from enough places but his ability to handle that from enough places is a big plus," Jones said. "It's one of the things that I would say the average to a high percentage people and players I've known would have been a more negative reacting than he's been and I think that’s a plus. He knows how to make it a positive time and I've seen him do that, if he will continue to work we’ll be fine with Roy and he’s going to be fine with us."

Is Williams concerned?

Yeah, he is. He knows he has to get better but it takes two people to stay married. The problem with Williams is trust between him and the coaching staff (Jason Garrett) and the quarterback (Tony Romo). The type of plays run for Williams is also another issue.

These issues must get resolved if 2010 is going to be a productive season.

If the Cowboys bench Williams, Patrick Crayton, a solid No. 3 receiver, Kevin Ogletree and Sam Hurd are the options. You could also say, well the Cowboys should have gotten another wide receiver.

Who was out there?

Brandon Marshall. It costs you a first round pick and an average salary of about $8 million. That's what Miles Austin might get and the Cowboys gave up a first round pick to get Williams two years ago.

Anquan Boldin. It would have cost you some middle round picks, but Boldin wants to get paid.

Nate Burleson. You really believe he's better than Williams?

Terrell Owens. Let's not go there.

Williams isn't going anywhere, his salary, close to $13 million is guaranteed regardless if he's on the roster or not says so. And, the Cowboys believe they can get him fixed.

 

[speedkilz88]

Didn't Jimmy even comment on the RoyW problems and say that Garrett needs to pick out what Roy does best and give him those plays to build up his confidence. Which is pretty close to what Jerry was saying in that interview.

 

[Seven]

Archer asked Jerry for his rationale. An important question. That is: hey Jerry, why the double-standard?

Jerry's reply to Archer is the most slippery, nonsensical, deer-in-the-headlights thing I've ever read. You worry about Jerry's mental these days.

He could have said: "No comment" or "We'll let these things play out on the field" or just anything.

First, it shows that Jerry can't cook up a good line of doublespeak these days. He's always been able to BS when he's had to in the past, and it has at least been logical in some alternative universe.

And secondly (sorry, standard anti-RW rant follows) it kind of reinforces many posters' worst fears: that with RW it's NOT what happens on the field, it's about Jerry's pride and his wallet hit. ....

I felt the RW double-standard recently when Wade was asked about whether RW deserved to start last season, when a writer opined that RW wasn't the second-best receiver on the team. Wade's reply didn't get much play. He said "I don't think that's true." That sounds like a equivocal, backpedaling answer. If the truth was that RW deserved starting, Wade would have said "That's not true."

Always has been, always will be and has ALWAYS got in the way of a complete football squad. Falls all the way to his coaching staffs. GM not withheld, IMO.


He sells Fords on Saturdays and Chevys on Sundays............

 

[tyke1doe]

Jones coddling RW.

TO II.

 

[hammer1]

I would be happy if Roy is not mentioned again on this board until training camp. Can the mods create a Roy Zone? That would help avoid the clutter of Roy W threads in the fan zone.

RW11 is like a car wreck ... some of us just can't look away. My theory is ...our IQ has a lot to do with how intersted we are with all things "Roy Williams".

 

[newlander]

At least TO could PLAY....RW is nervous and scared as it is...all the speculation, pressure and continuing focus on his half arsed play will just make it worse. He'd be a good #2 in.......Seattle or J-ville or Oakland. Secondary teams and cities. Dallas? Terrible idea from the get go. Million dollar talent with a ten cent head IMO

 

[Hook'em#11]

Maybe they are grooming Roy to be a WR bus driver.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

From Todd Archer's blog:

At the NFL Scouting Combine owner and general manager Jerry Jones said he wanted his players to be "nervous" in 2010 so as to avoid complacency. Yet when the talk turned to Roy Williams, Jones was protective of the wide out.

How does he reconcile the two options?

"You don't need to manufacture things to make Roy nervous, just our situation," Jones said, "and as a matter of fact his ability to handle the things that would make any of us nervous has been impressive to me and is one of the things we're encouraged about. He gets that from enough places but his ability to handle that from enough places is a big plus."

So, Jerra, you are impressed by Roy not being nervous . . . . But beyond that does anything he does on the field equally impress you? That, to me, is what you should be focuses on, not his mental state.

 

[visionary]

It was nonsense and anyone who buys that it is okay to give him less pressure from those that matter because he's hearing it "enough" from fans and media really needs to get a grip.

Basically, he was admitting that yes, he was not going to hold him to that standard and he was playing on the pity that even Williams himself has used on occasion. It is ridiculous to even voice this kind of comment, because it is simply insulting to the intelligence. I do not expect him to simply join in. But trying to imply that indeed Williams will respond with a soft hand is not all that intelligent.

A player you pay that kind of price for deserves whatever barbs and criticisms that can be foisted on them. And it includes the GM foolish enough to pay that price. Jones was completely schooled by Martin Mayhew on that trade and is fortunate he is not catching more for it. Williams' public commentary on the criticism deflects blame from the real culprit and that is Jones. Williams is simply thin-skinned enough that he invites more criticism, which is good for Jones in the long run.

this, RW is a lazy, overpaid, underachiever who needs to be slapped upside the head, not coddled.

 

[newlander]

EXACTLY 'VISIONARY'.....he needs a good, swift kick in the keester. Not hugs and kisses as that hasn't worked.

 

[Doomsday101]

EXACTLY 'VISIONARY'.....he needs a good, swift kick in the keester. Not hugs and kisses as that hasn't worked.

He has already gotten that, I don't see many cutting slack for RW. All anyone should care about is him producing how they get him to produce I could careless. Jerry not dog piling on RW I also have no issue with.