Jerry DOESN'T Care About Winning. Only $$$ and Ego. Facts:

[Hostile]

Wrong. Jerry had nothing to do with the first two trophies, and very little to do with the last three. He just thinks he did.

Our last Super Bowl was 13 years ago ... going on 14 by the start of next season. Our last playoff win was 12 years ago.

What have you done for me lately???

Yeah, he lucked out in hiring a guy who was squatting on the property but happened to end up being a good coach.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Wrong. Jerry had nothing to do with the first two trophies, and very little to do with the last three. He just thinks he did.

Our last Super Bowl was 13 years ago ... going on 14 by the start of next season. Our last playoff win was 12 years ago.

What have you done for me lately???

Let's review.

1991 we go 12-4 or maybe 11-5. Then get ousted by Detroit because we couldn't muster a pass rush.

Off-season Jerry signs Haley behind Jimmy's back.

1992 Dallas wins the Championship.

I think regardless of what the prevalent opinion is, that move surely gained Jerry some credit.

 

[Alexander]

If you have read anything about Jerry from his wildcatting days in oil, he dealt directly with the geologists and didn't have "managers" making decisions for him.

He has also repeatedlt talked about gambling on dry holes when the experts told him otherwise and getting fortunate.

And your attempt at an analogy is not very good. He does not even have geologists to go to for advice right now. He had a qualified "geologist" in Coach Parcells and it revived the franchise. What he's doing right now is going it alone or consulting with the roughnecks.

However, Jerry is a man who has succeeded at every level of life. To suggest to him that he needs to let someone else drive is absured.

Donald Trump has succeeded even more than Jerry Jones. That did not make him qualified to run a professional football team alone either.

 

[TwoDeep3]

He has also talked about gambling on dry holes when the experts told him otherwise and getting fortunate.

And your attempt at an analogy is not very good. He does not even have geologists to go to for advice right now. He had a qualified "geologist" in Coach Parcells and it revived the franchise. What he's doing right now is going it alone or consulting with the roughnecks.

He also has talked about offering those "experts" who directed him to "sure things" to invest their money and they could have the "sure thing" profits and be rich like him.

They declined.

I quote "The Hustler."

"There's only one way to determine who won. Count up at the end of the day. The guy with the most money wins."

In the end, dry hole or not, Jerry made a fortune. That smells like winning to me.

Donald Trump doesn't have 20-years working in this industry, either.

 

[Mansta54]

Wrong. Jerry had nothing to do with the first two trophies, and very little to do with the last three. He just thinks he did.

Our last Super Bowl was 13 years ago ... going on 14 by the start of next season. Our last playoff win was 12 years ago.

What have you done for me lately???

You're DEAD WRONG here, he had plenty to do with the last 3 SB's. He hired both coaches who won them and I guarantee he had significant input on what went on with those teams. He's a hands on guy and luvs the Boyz. Don't think he didn't have a major infleunce on those teams, you're seriously mistaken....

 

[tomson75]

Actually, he cares quite a bit about winning. He just doesn't know when to get out of the way. There's a reason Donald Trump doesn't personally draw up the blueprints of the buildings he finances.

Exactly.

It's becoming a habit.

I agree with you.

I do too....and that's pretty telling. When the OP's first statement is so off-base that bbgun and I are seeing eye to eye in the opposition....you're WAY off.

 

[5Stars]

I think Werder could have a hay day with this info!!!

 

[Mansta54]

Amen Brother, spot on!

Jerry the owner needs to fire Jerry the GM ASAP!

How long would Jerry have lasted on any other team (that he did not own) as a GM???

I think Jerry the GM has loaded this team with talent and has done very well via the draft, he just hired the wrong HC and doen't know when to fire him. I wouldn't knock Jerry the GM that much....

 

[yimyammer]

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He has also repeatedlt talked about gambling on dry holes when the experts told him otherwise and getting fortunate.

And your attempt at an analogy is not very good. He does not even have geologists to go to for advice right now. He had a qualified "geologist" in Coach Parcells and it revived the franchise. What he's doing right now is going it alone or consulting with the roughnecks.



Donald Trump has succeeded even more than Jerry Jones. That did not make him qualified to run a professional football team alone either.

Good analogy, Jerry has too much gamble in him in an era where he really doesn't need to gamble that much

 

[yimyammer]

I get it, I do not agree. And if you would set aside emotion and look at this thing in reality - they pay the other team too - then you will note that the ball is pointy and bounces funny...sometimes you eat the bear, sometimes it eats you...and we have a better winning record in the SB except for two teams. And Jerry is one of the reasons for that.

I'm not suggesting you're incorrect, but what are your sources for the following assertions:

1. That Jerry faught "valiantly" to keep Jimmy
2. That Jerry made the trade for Haley behind Jimmys back

I've been following the Cowboys since I was 6 and I've never heard this and would like to read more about this.

 

[TwoDeep3]

I'm not suggesting you're incorrect, but what are your sources for the following assertions:

1. That Jerry faught "valiantly" to keep Jimmy

2. That Jerry made the trade for Haley behind Jimmys back.

I've been following the Cowboys since I was 6 and I've never heard this and would like to read more about this.

I used to write for Mike Fisher, a local sports journalist, for his Mavs website. Spoke with him about this issue at length. He got this directly from Jones. However, I understand that Jimmy laid claim to this as well after he and Jone s patched up their friendship when Jones catered his mother's wake. I do not believe Jones would fabricate this, nor Jimmy confirm when it if it wasn't true.

I believe that has been written about and spoken about by many of the media in dallas. I heard Galloway talk about it and have heard Jones himself say it in interviews on various Dallas radio stations.

 

[dadymat]

the OP's allegations are silly...........

plain and simple---if Jerry only cared about money he wouldnt be in this business.....he spends and loses more money in the NFL than he ever would in his other businesses .....he could just make money...he chooses to spend and take gambles for success of the Cowboys and the NFL.....he has done many great things for the team and the league to just narrow it down to him just wanting to make money........

Jerry has made foolish decisions over ther years but they have ALL been made for the purpose of what he believed would help the team win.....

to say he is not responsible for the 3 rings he brought us is also lame....yes Jimmy was a great coach ...but i wonder what his legacy would have been had he been brought in to the LIons, Bengals, Cardinals, Minn, Jets, Oilers, Chargers,Atlanta, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, St Louis, Seattle or Miami (oh yeah he did go there..howd he do? ) back then these teams owners were doing nothing to help their teams win.....Jerry gave him every possible advantage to succeed and they did it together.....well Jerry won without Jimmy ...Jimmy didnt do squat without Jerry...and save all the "Jerry and Switzer did it with Jimmys guys" because like Switzer says..."We could have lost with those guys too"

everyone wants to see Jimmy come back...I hope he doesnt ..ever...cause if he did the first losing season we had he would be crucified, tared and feathered and run into the ground as if he never did anything for the Cowboys

Jerry may not have a clue on how to build a team but to question his intentions are just silly...IMO

 

[Alexander]

He also has talked about offering those "experts" who directed him to "sure things" to invest their money and they could have the "sure thing" profits and be rich like him.

They declined.

I quote "The Hustler."

"There's only one way to determine who won. Count up at the end of the day. The guy with the most money wins."

In the end, dry hole or not, Jerry made a fortune. That smells like winning to me.

It smells like fortune (the other kind) too.

This franchise received a number of good bounces since Jones bought the team. Coming across a foolish GM like Mike Lynn was a gift. One that will never be repeated. Jones was fortunate to have Jimmy Johnson as well. And he has spent years trying to run through many of the 200 other people that supposedly could coach his team and he is still struggling.

I have noticed that you talk about how pointy ball has fickle bounces, but you pick and choose when you decide to allow fortune into the discussion.

 

[redskins1]

You're DEAD WRONG here, he had plenty to do with the last 3 SB's. He hired both coaches who won them and I guarantee he had significant input on what went on with those teams. He's a hands on guy and luvs the Boyz. Don't think he didn't have a major infleunce on those teams, you're seriously mistaken....

the problem with this statement is when jimmy was the coach the buck stopped with him and the players knew it,since jimmy's departure the cowboys won a superbowl but has been in turmoil ever since..until the players know they have to answer to the head coach you will not win,thats part of our problem in washington..

 

[5Stars]

the problem with this statement is when jimmy was the coach the buck stopped with him and the players knew it,since jimmy's departure the cowboys won a superbowl but has been in turmoil ever since..until the players know they have to answer to the head coach you will not win,thats part of our problem in washington..

How do you know the players knew it? Oh, and please! Don't try and compare the Commanders with the Cowboys management!

 

[ScipioCowboy]

However, Jerry is a man who has succeeded at every level of life. To suggest to him that he needs to let someone else drive is absured.

And stick around. All teams have performances like the Philly game. If you think otherwise my first question is: Was this your first season watching football?

I get it, I do not agree. And if you would set aside emotion and look at this thing in reality - they pay the other team too - then you will note that the ball is pointy and bounces funny...sometimes you eat the bear, sometimes it eats you...and we have a better winning record in the SB except for two teams. And Jerry is one of the reasons for that.

Absurd?

Really?

The Cowboys have not won a playoff game in 12 years, which is more than enough time for any competent GM in the era of salary cap and free agency to garner a few postseason victories.

And although it's true that all teams "pay their players" and "have games like Philly," isn't it funny how certain teams get better play from their players and have fewer games like Philly than other teams?

Building a playoff winner is not random chance. It's not luck. It's a skill--one that Jerry has not manifested in 12 years.

Jerry can make money. No one has questioned that. We're only contending that the ability to make money is not synonymous with the ability to win football games.

At this point, it's clear to me that Jerry needs to bring in someone else to handle GM duties.

 

[yimyammer]

Look, I don't hate everything Jerry does, I just want him to do what he did when he first came here (and briefly when he hired Parcells).

Hire good, strong coaches that have a strong presence, can evaluate talent and have great motivation skills and then don't undermine their authority.

I also want scouting and managment to have the expertise to identify and develop talent and have the courage and expertise to know when to let a guy go a year early vs overpaying and getting stuck with them or the cap hit well after their skills have eroded.

Turnover is a good thing and it's important to have competition at every position. A steady infusion of youth and a healthy fear of losing your job if you don't perform up to and beyond expectations is essential. No one should feel their salary or job is secure beyond a reasonable point.

Expect excellance and accountability from the jocks to the socks and equip everyone on staff to do so even if that means you have to take a step back from the limelight.

Lastly, win as an organization without caring who gets credit.

 

[MissionCoach]

the OP's allegations are silly...........

plain and simple---if Jerry only cared about money he wouldnt be in this business.....he spends and loses more money in the NFL than he ever would in his other businesses .....he could just make money...he chooses to spend and take gambles for success of the Cowboys and the NFL.....he has done many great things for the team and the league to just narrow it down to him just wanting to make money........

Jerry has made foolish decisions over ther years but they have ALL been made for the purpose of what he believed would help the team win.....

to say he is not responsible for the 3 rings he brought us is also lame....yes Jimmy was a great coach ...but i wonder what his legacy would have been had he been brought in to the LIons, Bengals, Cardinals, Minn, Jets, Oilers, Chargers,Atlanta, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, St Louis, Seattle or Miami (oh yeah he did go there..howd he do? ) back then these teams owners were doing nothing to help their teams win.....Jerry gave him every possible advantage to succeed and they did it together.....well Jerry won without Jimmy ...Jimmy didnt do squat without Jerry...and save all the "Jerry and Switzer did it with Jimmys guys" because like Switzer says..."We could have lost with those guys too"

everyone wants to see Jimmy come back...I hope he doesnt ..ever...cause if he did the first losing season we had he would be crucified, tared and feathered and run into the ground as if he never did anything for the Cowboys

Jerry may not have a clue on how to build a team but to question his intentions are just silly...IMO

Not saying I want Jimmy Johnson back, but simply stated

Jimmy took care of Football Business
Jerry opened his wallet
It was a great relationship

Jerry needs to stick with what he does best and find somebody else to take care of Football Business

 

[dadymat]

Not saying I want Jimmy Johnson back, but simply stated

Jimmy took care of Football Business
Jerry opened his wallet
It was a great relationship

Jerry needs to stick with what he does best and find somebody else to take care of Football Business

agreed..........i just hate seeing people discard everything Jerry has ever done ....he gets alot of heat for his screw ups and no credit for the good hes done

 

[RoadRunner]

Actually, he cares quite a bit about winning. He just doesn't know when to get out of the way. There's a reason Donald Trump doesn't personally draw up the blueprints of the buildings he finances.

Good point. Both Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder need to make the humbling realization that just because you are good at business, it does not necessarily mean you are good at everything else.