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MountaineerCowboy

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hmmm, reading comprehension problem..... this is how you are these days...some body says Door, you see D and you say Dak and then you comment Dak and Dak only..

someone said Alone, you see A, Dak has A in it, so its about Dak.

someone says Kool, you see K and Dak has K in it so its about Dak

dude, you are so obsessed. blinded by this obsession. and add your ego on top of it and its not a good combination. not healthy
You forgot L for loser.
 

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this may sound like a rant against Jerry, but I don't intend it to be that. its understanding the state of cowboys, so that we can understand and set our expectations of our cowboys. and I apologize in advance for the long post.

Jerry is all about marketing, fanbase, market perception, value value value. I guarantee you that the post SF game twit didn't go out without him being aware. Every move Jerry makes is about the bottom line and the business and public perception, managing it and growing the fan base and selling more Jersey's. Jerry has a good business sense. an intuition, sixth sense if you will. I give him that.

He stuck by Dak, because Jersey's were flying off the shelf. Given Dak's recent fan base hits, he can sense a market shift, so he is making moves. given the recent set backs, he is strategizing his steps. one at a time. he is waiting to see the market response and he can plan his next move with Dak and rest of the team. All these coaches firings are his response to current crisis and crisis management in his fanbase. He is a master of selling and he always sold hope. these moves are steps in the process. to generate hope to keep fan base engaged and interested. to show the fan base he is making changes. he has disappeared from the media, so he doesn't have to answer the tough questions until the tide changes to positive. in essence throwing everyone under the bus and not holding himself accountable.

There will be player moves coming. again some of it will be market driven. Do I mean every move he makes is about the market? in essence indirectly, yes, but building a successful team, that can produce a good product, intrigue, interest in fanbase, is part of that plan. a bad product is not going to sell for long. but he doesn't have to build a championship team to have that. do I mean he doesn't care about winning a championship? no, he does. but its not the top priority. its not get that at all costs.

It will be interesting to see his actions in regards to Dak, Tyron, Zeke, Lawrence and a few more. He does make these decisions sometimes personal, ala him dumping Cooper for peanuts was in essence getting back at cooper. He does have business and personal relationship with several of the players. He has touted Dak, stood by him and made him his center piece. Jerseys sold off the shelf. seats were full. money money money........now, not so much, so he has to figure out his next move. He has to figure out the story he has to tell (sell), how to sell hope for 2023. does he extend him? does he restructure?, does he stay with current contract? and impact to cap space and still be able to be competitive enough to generate interest and sell out home games...

Philly went to Superbowl, gave a large contract to their QB, then cut him, moved on, drafted well, changed coaches, rebuild the team all in 4 years. SF has rebuilt, is deep and competitive year in year out. in 4 years. both without Star, Elite QBs we covet and think is the elixir to our problems. Jerry is unable to do that. his focus is not on winning a championship at all cost. its building the most valuable franchise at any cost.


so my fellow fans. this is how it will be. I thought I came to grips with that last year. I wasn't as interested in the team earlier this year, but I got fooled once again. shame on me. perhaps a second time I will be smarter. perhaps playoff appearance and a playoff win is best we can do and will do and thus that should be our expectations. I don't think we will ever win a championship under jerry. this is not a Dak debate, because as we all know there was romo and before romo another QB and so on. and Dak will be gone and there will be the next QB, debates on this board will continue, arguments to be had and nothing will change. in essence 2022 is as good as it gets.... and that sucks.
As long as Jerry is in control you are correct.
If Jerry really cared about a Chip he would have hired a real GM
a long time ago when it became obvious that he does not have the right skillset
to be a top notch GM.
So we have to wait Jerry out. He is 80 and cant run this team forever.
Not wishing him any ill will by the way, just recognizing that no one lives forever.
I suspect Stephen will be different.
He may try and run the team as GM, but he wont luck into Romo and Dak like Jerry did,
and after several losing season will hire a real GM.
He will have no choice as the fans will turn on him and quit spending money on the team.
At least that's my hope.
 

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"I don't think we'll ever win a championship under Jerry" followed by "This is not a Dak debate".

The problem with that is we've won 3 championships under Jerry and that was because the QB position was taken seriously.

If we had even average QB play we win that game Sunday and are 1 game away from the Super Bowl right now and none of this matters.

Jerry sucks, yes, but you can't say we can't win with him as the owner because we have. You can fault him for sticking with players and coaches that don't deserve it though.
We won because Jerry hired Jimmy and did not get in the way.
Since Jimmy and his players left we have won squat with Jerry.
 

john van brocklin

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Jerry hired Jimmy.

That was why we won. Jerry has never taken the QB position seriously. Just like he thinks "Coaches dont matter"

The fish rots from the head on down and the head of this franchise has been rotting since Jimmy walked out those doors. Along with accountability, aggressiveness on the FA market, and culture.
:hammer:
 

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We won because Jerry hired Jimmy and did not get in the way.
Since Jimmy and his players left we have won squat with Jerry.
with him its not about the context of the discussion. its about arguing and feeling that he won and argument.

once you understand that, then you can see right through every one of his posts.
 

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"I don't think we'll ever win a championship under Jerry" followed by "This is not a Dak debate".

The problem with that is we've won 3 championships under Jerry and that was because the QB position was taken seriously.

If we had even average QB play we win that game Sunday and are 1 game away from the Super Bowl right now and none of this matters.

Jerry sucks, yes, but you can't say we can't win with him as the owner because we have. You can fault him for sticking with players and coaches that don't deserve it though.
We can win with Jerry as the owner. We can't win with Jerry as the GM. When we won, Jerry wasn't the GM. Since he has been the GM, we've failed time and again. Since Jerry's ego won't let him step down from being the GM, there's a point to be made that we can't win with him as the owner because he won't do what it takes in the end to win...get out of the way.
 

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"We won under Jerry" is a deceptivee play on words, one that Jerry himself uses to it's fullest extent.

First of all,owners do little to nothing when it comes to football operations except hire and fire a GM.


Hiring Jimmy Johnson, the most sought after college coach that year, was a no-brainer. Half a dozen teams wanted him but Jerry promised him full control and almost an unlimited checkbook.

Heck, Jimmy Johnson was on Tex Schram's list in case owner Bum Bright forced him to fire Landry.

Jimmy built a team that was so good, Jerry and Barry Switzer road the wave for a few years after Jimmy left before Jerry destroyed it with terrible management.

Owners don't make an impact u less it's a negative one.
 

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this may sound like a rant against Jerry, but I don't intend it to be that. its understanding the state of cowboys, so that we can understand and set our expectations of our cowboys. and I apologize in advance for the long post.

Jerry is all about marketing, fanbase, market perception, value value value. I guarantee you that the post SF game twit didn't go out without him being aware. Every move Jerry makes is about the bottom line and the business and public perception, managing it and growing the fan base and selling more Jersey's. Jerry has a good business sense. an intuition, sixth sense if you will. I give him that.

He stuck by Dak, because Jersey's were flying off the shelf. Given Dak's recent fan base hits, he can sense a market shift, so he is making moves. given the recent set backs, he is strategizing his steps. one at a time. he is waiting to see the market response and he can plan his next move with Dak and rest of the team. All these coaches firings are his response to current crisis and crisis management in his fanbase. He is a master of selling and he always sold hope. these moves are steps in the process. to generate hope to keep fan base engaged and interested. to show the fan base he is making changes. he has disappeared from the media, so he doesn't have to answer the tough questions until the tide changes to positive. in essence throwing everyone under the bus and not holding himself accountable.

There will be player moves coming. again some of it will be market driven. Do I mean every move he makes is about the market? in essence indirectly, yes, but building a successful team, that can produce a good product, intrigue, interest in fanbase, is part of that plan. a bad product is not going to sell for long. but he doesn't have to build a championship team to have that. do I mean he doesn't care about winning a championship? no, he does. but its not the top priority. its not get that at all costs.

It will be interesting to see his actions in regards to Dak, Tyron, Zeke, Lawrence and a few more. He does make these decisions sometimes personal, ala him dumping Cooper for peanuts was in essence getting back at cooper. He does have business and personal relationship with several of the players. He has touted Dak, stood by him and made him his center piece. Jerseys sold off the shelf. seats were full. money money money........now, not so much, so he has to figure out his next move. He has to figure out the story he has to tell (sell), how to sell hope for 2023. does he extend him? does he restructure?, does he stay with current contract? and impact to cap space and still be able to be competitive enough to generate interest and sell out home games...

Philly went to Superbowl, gave a large contract to their QB, then cut him, moved on, drafted well, changed coaches, rebuild the team all in 4 years. SF has rebuilt, is deep and competitive year in year out. in 4 years. both without Star, Elite QBs we covet and think is the elixir to our problems. Jerry is unable to do that. his focus is not on winning a championship at all cost. its building the most valuable franchise at any cost.


so my fellow fans. this is how it will be. I thought I came to grips with that last year. I wasn't as interested in the team earlier this year, but I got fooled once again. shame on me. perhaps a second time I will be smarter. perhaps playoff appearance and a playoff win is best we can do and will do and thus that should be our expectations. I don't think we will ever win a championship under jerry. this is not a Dak debate, because as we all know there was romo and before romo another QB and so on. and Dak will be gone and there will be the next QB, debates on this board will continue, arguments to be had and nothing will change. in essence 2022 is as good as it gets.... and that sucks.
One of the most ignorant threads of the year.
 

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Jerry hired Jimmy.

That was why we won. Jerry has never taken the QB position seriously. Just like he thinks "Coaches dont matter"

The fish rots from the head on down and the head of this franchise has been rotting since Jimmy walked out those doors. Along with accountability, aggressiveness on the FA market, and culture.
If your cliche actually applied the head would have rotted with Jimmy too.
 

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"I don't think we'll ever win a championship under Jerry" followed by "This is not a Dak debate".

The problem with that is we've won 3 championships under Jerry and that was because the QB position was taken seriously.

If we had even average QB play we win that game Sunday and are 1 game away from the Super Bowl right now and none of this matters.

Jerry sucks, yes, but you can't say we can't win with him as the owner because we have. You can fault him for sticking with players and coaches that don't deserve it though.
under Jimmy
 

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And I live in yours.
I told you last year, I should be paying you rent for living in my head. oh your greatness of Dak Obsessors.
but I know how if you feel you lost an argument, it bugs you, eats away at your ego and you have to say something to make you feel I won, I won that argument.
that's how you roll.

Dak lives in your head. you can't think straight.
 

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No. It wouldn’t have. Because Jerry didn’t let his ego control his decisions then. But. Nice try
:laugh: I get that you really want to believe this. The key to everything is Jerry checking his ego! You need to stop watching Lifetime.
 
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