Jerry isn't dumb on draft day

[dadymat]

Miles Austin- Monmouth College

Monmouth is in New Jersey... Parcells is a Jersey guy...He reached out to a fellow Jersey Kid....

Austin was all Parcells. Thats for sure

But Bobby Carpenter was all Parcells too. His dad played for Parcells..

Drafts/ Undrafted free agents are a crap shoot. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes u dont.

If Austin was all Parcells why was Austin working out at Jim Garrett's house prior to his Senior year at Monmouth?

Why was Dallas one of two teams at Austin's Pro Day on JG's recommendation?

Or you could think before you speak.

http://www.standard.net/topics/sports/2009/10/31/miles-austin-follows-unusual-career-path-success-cowboys

Bbbbut Miles is from Jersey and Parcells is from Jersey soooo....that means hes a Parcells guy......didnt you know all things Jersey are BP ?

 

[Hoofbite]

Aside from that special teams debacle draft, I'm okay with what has been done in the draft over the past few years.

I'm more worried about getting to the draft with all picks in tact. Seems to be that a wild hair will crawl up his *** and he'll blow his wad pre-draft.

 

[wileedog]

The last 5 drafts have been terrible. Period.

Forget Parcells, any GM in the league not named Matt Millen would be on the hot seat for 5 straight sub par drafts.

And if you want to bring up Romo, Austin and Rat, just note that the only late round pick worth a fig the last 4 years has been Phillips, who may or may not turn into a serviceable 2nd string TE. Every other pick that has had even a remote impact on the team since Parcells left is a first rounder.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

The last 5 drafts have been terrible. Period.

Forget Parcells, any GM in the league not named Matt Millen would be on the hot seat for 5 straight sub par drafts.

And if you want to bring up Romo, Austin and Rat, just note that the only late round pick worth a fig the last 4 years has been Phillips, who may or may not turn into a serviceable 2nd string TE. Every other pick that has had even a remote impact on the team since Parcells left is a first rounder.

So Jerry is an idiot and everyone surrounding him is an idiot.


Sounds about right.

:laugh2:

 

[wileedog]

So Jerry is an idiot and everyone surrounding him is an idiot.


Sounds about right.

:laugh2:

15 years, 1 playoff win.

Carry on.

 

[watertown]

Over the years we've all seen Dallas(Jerry) make some head-scratching moves. But what fans don't give him credit for is the picks he's made that have been good for the Cowboys.

For every bust that Dallas has gotten, There's been a Austin, a Romo, a Ratliff. Just take a look as how fantastic that is. Three integral parts of the team were drafted from the 7th round to UDFA. How is that for Jerry Jones is a lousy GM?

Don't get me wrong, there's draft like recent drafts that have been utter failures. In my opinion the team and Jerry in particular need to stop trying to be cute on draft day. Pick a guy and stop trying to pile up 6th and 7th round picks. That's why Dallas has a team full of worthless depth behind the starters. Basically because the team is "DEVELOPING" projects. If you're going to pile picks by trading down in the 1st, use them picks. Don't trade again for a 4th round pick because you see a guy who you can have then. There's a 2nd round pick that you can fill a hole too.

This yr it "seems" like there's a plan. I guess we'll see come draft day. If Jerry trades down from the 9th pick. Hopefully when that pick they pick up in the trade, they use it. Build up the depth this team sorely lacks.

But we call Jerry the worst GM in the nfl lets remember one thing. If Parcells would've had his way Marcus Spears would've been the 11th pick and Ware wouldn't be in Dallas. Yes Jerry makes mistakes, But he knows football, and I'd say moreso then any person posting hate on the man in any fan forum. Seems like for every failure everybody wants to put all the blame on Jerry. But all the hits everybody wants to give all the credit to the coach. Just remember no pick or decision is made without Jerry's approval.

Parcells did wonders with Miami

 

[watertown]

Parcells did wonders with Miami

Atleast our owner wants to win

 

[wileedog]

Atleast our owner wants to win

Yeah he's just not very good at it anymore.

 

[2233boys]

Drafts after Jimmy You decide, I see more suck then anything else
1994
23 23 Shante Carver Defensive End Arizona State
2 17 46 Larry Allen Guard Sonoma State
3 37 102 George Hegamin Offensive Tackle North Carolina State
4 6 109 Willie Jackson Wide Receiver Florida
4 28 131 DeWayne Dotson Linebacker Mississippi
6 30 191 Darren Studstill Defensive Back West Virginia
7 22 216 Toddrick McIntosh Defensive Tackle Florida State

[edit] 1995 DraftRound Pick # Overall Name Position College
2 14 46 Sherman Williams Running Back Alabama
2 27 59 Kendell Watkins Tight End Mississippi State
2 31 63 Shane Hannah Guard Michigan State
3 28 92 Charlie Williams Defensive Back Bowling Green
4 12 110 Eric Bjornson Tight End Washington
4 31 129 Alundis Brice Defensive Back Mississippi
4 32 130 Linc Harden Linebacker Oklahoma State
5 32 166 Edward Hervey Wide Receiver Southern Cal
5 34 168 Dana Howard Linebacker Illinois
7 28 236 Oscar Sturgis Defensive End North Carolina

[edit] 1996 DraftRound Pick # Overall Name Position College
2 7 37 Kavika Pittman Defensive End McNeese State
2 19 49 Randall Godfrey Linebacker Georgia 3 6 67 Clay Shiver Center Florida State
3 33 94 Stepfret Williams Wide Receiver Northeast Louisiana
3 34 95 Mike Ulufale Defensive Tackle Brigham Young
5 25 157 Kenneth McDaniel Guard Norfolk State
5 35 167 Alan Campos Linebacker Louisville
6 40 207 Wendell Davis Cornerback Oklahoma
7 34 243 Ryan Wood Running Back Arizona State

[edit] 1997 DraftRound Pick # Overall Name Position College
1 22 22 David LaFleur Tight End LSU
3 5 65 Dexter Coakley Linebacker Appalachian State
3 23 83 Steve Scifres Guard Wyoming
3 34 94 Kenny Wheaton Running Back Oregon
4 5 101 Antonio Anderson Defensive Tackle Syracuse
4 31 127 Macey Brooks Wide Receiver James Madison
4 33 129 Nicky Sualua Fullback Ohio State
6 24 187 Lee Vaughn Defensive Back Wyoming
7 23 224 Omar Stoutmire Safety Fresno State
[edit]

1998 DraftRound Pick # Overall Name Position College
1 8 8 Greg Ellis Defensive End North Carolina
2 8 38 Flozell Adams Offensive Tackle Michigan State
4 8 100 Michael Myers Defensive Tackle Alabama
5 7 130 Darren Hambrick Linebacker South Carolina
5 15 138 Oliver Ross Offensive Tackle Iowa State
6 35 188 Izell Reese Safety Alabama-Birmingham
7 34 223 Tarik Smith Running Back California
7 38 227 Antonio Fleming Guard Georgia
7 48 237 Rodirck Monroe Tight End Cincinnati

[edit] 1999 DraftRound Pick # Overall Name Position College
1 20 20 Ebenezer Ekuban Defensive End North Carolina
2 24 55 Solomon Page Guard West Virginia
3 24 85 Dat Nguyen Linebacker Texas A&M
4 23 118 Wane McGarity Wide Receiver Texas
4 37 132 Peppi Zellner Defensive End Fort Valley State
6 24 193 MarTay Jenkins Wide Receiver Nebraska-Omaha
7 23 229 Mike Lucky Tight End Arizona
7 37 243 Kelvin Garmon Guard Baylor

[edit] 2000 DraftRound Pick # Overall Name Position College Possibly the worst draft ever
2 18 49 Dwayne Goodrich Cornerback Tennessee
4 15 109 Kareem Larrimore Cornerback West Texas A&M
5 15 144 Michael Wiley Running Back Ohio State
6 14 180 Mario Edwards Cornerback Florida State
7 13 219 Orantes Grant Linebacker Georgia

[edit] 2001 DraftRound Pick # Overall Name Position College Horrible Draft

2 22 53 Quincy Carter Quarterback Georgia
2 25 56 Tony Dixon Safety Alabama
3 31 93 Willie Blade Defensive Tackle Mississippi State
4 27 122 Markus Steele Linebacker Southern Cal
5 6 137 Matt Lehr Guard Virginia Tech
6 8 171 Daleroy Stewart Defensive Tackle Southern Mississippi
7 7 207 Colston Weatherington Defensive End Central Missouri State
7 40 240 John Nix Defensive Tackle Southern Mississippi
7 42 242 Char-ron Dorsey Offensive Tackle Florida State

[edit] 2002 DraftRound Pick # Overall Name Position College
1 8 8 Roy Williams Safety Oklahoma
2 5 37 Andre Gurode Center Colorado
2 31 63 Antonio Bryant Wide Receiver Pittsburgh
3 10 75 Derek Ross Cornerback Ohio State
31 129 Jamar Martin Fullback Ohio State
5 33 168 Pete Hunter Defensive Back Virginia Union
6 7 179 Tyson Walter Guard Ohio State
6 36 208 Deveren Johnson Wide Receiver Sacred Heart Horrible pick
6 39 211 Bob Slowikowski Tight End Virginia Tech Horrible pick

[edit] 2003 DraftRound Pick # Overall Name Position College
1 5 5 Terence Newman Cornerback Kansas State
2 6 38 Al Johnson Center Wisconsin
3 5 69 Jason Witten Tight End Tennessee
4 6 103 Bradie James Linebacker LSU
6 5 178 B. J. Tucker Cornerback Wisconsin Horrible pick
6 13 186 Zuriel Smith Wide Receiver Hampton Horrible pick
7 5 219 Justin Bates Guard Colorado Horrible pick

[edit] 2004 DraftRound Pick # Overall Name Position College
2 11 43 Julius Jones Running Back Notre Dame
2 20 52 Jacob Rogers Offensive Tackle Southern Cal Horrible pick
3 20 83 Stephen Peterman Guard LSU
4 25 121 Bruce Thornton Cornerback Georgia
5 12 144 Sean Ryan Tight End Boston College
7 4 205 Nathan Jones Cornerback Rutgers
7 15 216 Patrick Crayton Wide Receiver Northwestern Oklahoma State
7 22 223 Jacques Reeves Cornerback Purdue

[edit] 2005 DraftRound Pick # Overall Name Position College
1 11 11 DeMarcus Ware Linebacker Troy
1 20 20 Marcus Spears Defensive End LSU
2 10 42 Kevin Burnett Linebacker Tennessee
4 8 109 Marion Barber III Running Back Minnesota
4 31 132 Chris Canty Defensive End Virginia
6 34 208 Justin Beriault Safety Ball State Horrible pick
6 35 209 Rob Petitti Offensive Tackle Pittsburgh Horrible pick
7 10 224 Jay Ratliff Defensive Tackle Auburn

[edit] 2006 DraftRound Pick # Overall Name Position College
1 18 18 Bobby Carpenter Linebacker Ohio State
2 21 53 Anthony Fasano Tight End Notre Dame
3 28 92 Jason Hatcher Defensive End Grambling State
4 28 125 Skyler Green Wide Receiver LSU Horrible pick
5 5 138 Pat Watkins Safety Florida State
6 13 182 Montavious Stanley Defensive Tackle Louisville
7 3 211 Pat McQuistan Offensive Tackle Weber State
7 16 244 E. J. Whitley Center Texas Tech

[edit] 2007 DraftRound Pick # Overall Name Position College
1 26 26 Anthony Spencer Linebacker Purdue
3 3 67 James Marten Offensive Tackle Boston College
4 4 103 Isaiah Stanback Wide Receiver Washington Horrible pick
4 23 122 Doug Free Offensive Tackle Northern Illinois
6 4 178 Nick Folk Kicker Arizona
6 21 195 Deon Anderson Fullback Connecticut
7 2 212 Courtney Brown Defensive Back Cal Poly
7 27 237 Alan Ball Cornerback Illinois

[edit] 2008 DraftRound Pick # Overall Name Position College
1 22 22 Felix Jones Running Back Arkansas
1 25 25 Mike Jenkins Cornerback South Florida
2 30 61 Martellus Bennett Tight End Texas A&M
4 23 122 Tashard Choice Running Back Georgia Tech
5 8 143 Orlando Scandrick Cornerback Boise State
6 1 167 Erik Walden Linebacker Middle Tennessee State

[edit] 2009 DraftRound Pick # Overall Name Position College
3 5 69 Jason Williams Linebacker Western Illinois
3 11 75 Robert Brewster Offensive Tackle Ball State
4 1 101 Stephen McGee Quarterback Texas A&M
4 10 110 Victor Butler Linebacker Oregon State
4 20 120 Brandon Williams Defensive End Texas Tech
5 7 153 DeAngelo Smith Cornerback Cincinnati
5 30 166 Michael Hamlin Safety Clemson
5 36 172 David Buehler Kicker USC
6 24 197 Stephen Hodge Safety TCU
6 35 208 John Phillips Tight End Virginia
7 18 227 Mike Mickens Cornerback Cincinnati
7 20 229 Manuel Johnson Wide Receiver Oklahoma

[edit] 2010 DraftRound Pick # Overall Name Position College
1 24 24 Dez Bryant Wide Receiver Oklahoma State
2 23 55 Sean Lee Linebacker Penn State
4 28 126 Akwasi Owusu-Ansah Safety Indiana (PA)
6 10 179 Sam Young Offensive Tackle Notre Dame
6 27 196 Jamar Wall Cornerback Texas Tech
7 27 234 Sean Lissemore Defensive Tackle William & Mary


Bolds decent picks Itlaics ok picks for us at the time, or for others.

 

[funkytown]

If Austin was all Parcells why was Austin working out at Jim Garrett's house prior to his Senior year at Monmouth?

Why was Dallas one of two teams at Austin's Pro Day on JG's recommendation?

Or you could think before you speak.

http://www.standard.net/topics/sports/2009/10/31/miles-austin-follows-unusual-career-path-success-cowboys

Thanks for posting the article...Nice read, i've read all this before.. And as the article states his college coach was a friend of Parcells.. That had just as much to do with him signing with the cowboys as did practicing in the Garrett's back yard........

But thanks again for posting the article buddy.

 

[CCBoy]

I'm amazed at the ridiculous lengths people will go to dismiss what Parcells did in Dallas.

He took the team from a three time 5-11 squad to the playoffs in his first year there. Rebuilt the roster and laid the foundation that is there now.

Once he left, Phillips was able to get a couple of good years out of the team he had built, but they eventually slipped back without that strong influence. This past year shows the impact of having a weak HC like Phillips.

BP's time was up. He'd worn out his welcome, but what he did in Dallas was an overall positive gain for the team. Honestly, you can't say that for any other coach in Cowboys history other than Landry and Jimmy.

Oh yea, baby...the wizard of New York made the whole deal. His implants along the offensive line and linebacker are exactly where now? The USC offensive tackle along with the LSU guard? Then Bobby Carpenter?

Yea, we see the depth of your tar bucket and feather pile...

Oh, and with some of that wizardry, with the shell of the Super Bowl Dynasty finally falling off, he started: (drum roll).....'grass blade trippin' Hamster. And set the franchise solidly upon Julius Jones, and now our reverenced Marion the 'Barberian.' He made Emmitt Smith pack his bags, and then insulted Larry Allen to another team. As to changing the landscape from the five win teams...ooops again, he hit that mark every other season.

That was ONLY four drafts...maybe you should do an actual cross comparison of who was picked during his time and now retained, and those done more recently.

As Latinmind suggested, don't be bised solely to one side of view...and that being cherry picked to insult with....as was returned above.

No, Bill Parcells was a solid coach. He did a lot of good for Dallas, and implanted the current and franchise departing defensive scheme that is still in use today.

His principals often lacked applications that weren't born by individual achievement due to a changed NFL skillset and a somewhat lack of a complete view necessary to achieve the success that he was entrusted for delivering. His offensive lines were and continued to be the stumbling blocks for his team while here in Dallas.

But transitions were not directly reflective of an inability for Jerry Jones to function as a GM. There was more to the picture than was presented during the Dallas Dynasty period and limited to it's successes.

Today's NFL is dynamic and tough. Make no mistake here. A team such as New England, with a fountain of youth located in it's backyard, still has trouble making it to the final dance even now.

Consistency is part of a Pittsburgh franchis although. They do a great job during the first four rounds of the draft. Here, there have been a lot of projected talent levels involved with a lot of more recent picks. But to be fair to Jerry, the drafts have brought in an improved talent level to those that failed to make it through the beyond journeyman levels of being professionals with most of Bill Parcells' drafts.

By the way, how are Bill's Players concepts holding up in Miami?

 

[CCBoy]

The last 5 drafts have been terrible. Period.

Forget Parcells, any GM in the league not named Matt Millen would be on the hot seat for 5 straight sub par drafts.

And if you want to bring up Romo, Austin and Rat, just note that the only late round pick worth a fig the last 4 years has been Phillips, who may or may not turn into a serviceable 2nd string TE. Every other pick that has had even a remote impact on the team since Parcells left is a first rounder.

Bet...and I thought Wiley was a Coyote.

Not a dog...so, explain how totals of wins, NFC East Championships, and even a playoff victory happended AFTER the Dynasty of Parcells.

 

[junk]

Oh, and with some of that wizardry, with the shell of the Super Bowl Dynasty finally falling off, he started: (drum roll).....'grass blade trippin' Hamster. And set the franchise solidly upon Julius Jones, and now our reverenced Marion the 'Barberian.' He made Emmitt Smith pack his bags, and then insulted Larry Allen to another team.

Yes, the team really missed Emmitt and his 1100 odd yards he got in 2 futile years in Arizona. Could have really used that 2.8 and 3.5 YPC. Allen was washed up too. I loved both guys, but moving on was essential to moving forward. Emmitt didn't exactly have the rep as a locker room leader and for Parcells' message to work, he needed control over the locker room.

Apparently worked too. 5-11 to 10-6 after ditching Emmitt and going to Hambrick. Why was a 5 win improvement bad?

As to changing the landscape from the five win teams...ooops again, he hit that mark every other season.

What? Parcells never went 5-11 ever, much less "every other season". This basically invalidates anything you've said due its gross inaccuracy.

10-6, 6-10, 9-7, 9-7

That was ONLY four drafts...maybe you should do an actual cross comparison of who was picked during his time and now retained, and those done more recently.

Sure, look at the earlier post in this thread. While Parcells was here, Dallas drafted Newman, Ware, Witten and Ratliff. No one drafted since even compares to that level of talent. Dez might eventually. The best from the rest could only be described as solid starters (or in the case of Free maybe slightly above average)

As Latinmind suggested, don't be bised solely to one side of view...and that being cherry picked to insult with....as was returned above.

What am I biased about? I thought Parcells was a good coach and helped get the franchise pointed in the right direction. What he did here was overwhelmingly positive and I feel much of that was undone by Phillips.

No, Bill Parcells was a solid coach. He did a lot of good for Dallas, and implanted the current and franchise departing defensive scheme that is still in use today.

Uh, sure. That's all I'm saying. Everyone wants to dismiss his time here. I thought it was value added to the franchise.

His principals often lacked applications that weren't born by individual achievement due to a changed NFL skillset and a somewhat lack of a complete view necessary to achieve the success that he was entrusted for delivering. His offensive lines were and continued to be the stumbling blocks for his team while here in Dallas.

But transitions were not directly reflective of an inability for Jerry Jones to function as a GM. There was more to the picture than was presented during the Dallas Dynasty period and limited to it's successes.

1 playoff win in how many years? What has been the one constant? Jerry Jones. That's the real issue here.

By the way, how are Bill's Players concepts holding up in Miami?

First year was a 10 win improvement. Still had a better record than Dallas this year.

 

[CCBoy]

Yes, the team really missed Emmitt and his 1100 odd yards he got in 2 futile years in Arizona. Could have really used that 2.8 and 3.5 YPC. Allen was washed up too. I loved both guys, but moving on was essential to moving forward. Emmitt didn't exactly have the rep as a locker room leader and for Parcells' message to work, he needed control over the locker room.

Apparently worked too. 5-11 to 10-6 after ditching Emmitt and going to Hambrick. Why was a 5 win improvement bad?


What? Parcells never went 5-11 ever, much less "every other season". This basically invalidates anything you've said due its gross inaccuracy.

10-6, 6-10, 9-7, 9-7


Sure, look at the earlier post in this thread. While Parcells was here, Dallas drafted Newman, Ware, Witten and Ratliff. No one drafted since even compares to that level of talent. Dez might eventually. The best from the rest could only be described as solid starters (or in the case of Free maybe slightly above average)


What am I biased about? I thought Parcells was a good coach and helped get the franchise pointed in the right direction. What he did here was overwhelmingly positive and I feel much of that was undone by Phillips.


Uh, sure. That's all I'm saying. Everyone wants to dismiss his time here. I thought it was value added to the franchise.


1 playoff win in how many years? What has been the one constant? Jerry Jones. That's the real issue here.


First year was a 10 win improvement. Still had a better record than Dallas this year.

Your whole post was an attempt to defend your position, and not in issues involved. But your logic in comparison never touched directions pointed towards, but less disproved the premise that Parcells didn't change the environment superior to what occurred since his up and quitting. Neither in Dallas...or in Miami. You go.

Oh, and on last season, you might reconsider some of the effects that injury did play on team outcomes. That, and the coaching affect that Wade Phillips had on team play. But neither of those aspects breeches the contribution of Jerry Jones...which your WHOLE summation was to address.

 

[TNCowboy]

:laugh1: at the OP. All those guys were acquired in Parcells' time. The drafts prior to Parcells and subsequent to Parcells have generally been garbage. Acting as though Jones is responsible for that is laugable. The roster went into a downwards spiral soon after Jimmy Johnson left, and it's now done the same since Parcells left. If anyone thinks that's a coincidence, their head's in the sand.

Homers will desperately cling to the notion that Jones was at least somewhat responsible for those acquisitions, because if he wasn't, we're stuck with a guy whose recent accomplishments include giving up 2 high picks for roy williams and spending an entire draft on special teams hopefuls.

 

[burmafrd]

Romo was Sean Paytons find. This BS about BP not wanting him is just haters agenda. BP was interested but not enthusiastic. And you of course remember how Jerruh was with QBs. Q, Henson, Hutch? And back then Steven had little influence (2003). What BP was agree with Sean Payton that Romo had real promise but needed a lot of work. And what BP really did was to hide Romo on the roster while Jerruh had his Q, Hutch, Henson love. We should be grateful to Henson- Jerruh fell in love and fixated on him and it allowed Romo the time to develope.

Now BP had problems with the O line drafting no doubt about it. BUT he was the one that spotted Colombo; and he was the only one that wanted to give Gurode one more chance at center. AND he was the one that got Kosier. So drafting he was bad but he could spot the guys that could get it done once they were in the Pros.

 

[CCBoy]

:laugh1: at the OP. All those guys were acquired in Parcells' time. The drafts prior to Parcells and subsequent to Parcells have generally been garbage. Acting as though Jones is responsible for that is laugable. The roster went into a downwards spiral soon after Jimmy Johnson left, and it's now done the same since Parcells left. If anyone thinks that's a coincidence, their head's in the sand.

Homers will desperately cling to the notion that Jones was at least somewhat responsible for those acquisitions, because if he wasn't, we're stuck with a guy whose recent accomplishments include giving up 2 high picks for roy williams and spending an entire draft on special teams hopefuls.

Oh, hooray for Richard the ____________ hearted. (fill in the blank)

 

[CCBoy]

Romo was Sean Paytons find. This BS about BP not wanting him is just haters agenda. BP was interested but not enthusiastic. And you of course remember how Jerruh was with QBs. Q, Henson, Hutch? And back then Steven had little influence (2003). What BP was agree with Sean Payton that Romo had real promise but needed a lot of work. And what BP really did was to hide Romo on the roster while Jerruh had his Q, Hutch, Henson love. We should be grateful to Henson- Jerruh fell in love and fixated on him and it allowed Romo the time to develope.

Now BP had problems with the O line drafting no doubt about it. BUT he was the one that spotted Colombo; and he was the only one that wanted to give Gurode one more chance at center. AND he was the one that got Kosier. So drafting he was bad but he could spot the guys that could get it done once they were in the Pros.

Good morning, burmafrd!:starspin

 

[casmith07]

Nobody's doubting that the 2009 draft was garbage. It had Wade's prints all over it. But he's done fairly well elsewhere.

 

[visionary]

...Three integral parts of the team were drafted from the 7th round to UDFA. How is that for Jerry Jones is a lousy GM?...Basically because the team is "DEVELOPING" projects.

Build up the depth this team sorely lacks.

Just remember no pick or decision is made without Jerry's approval.

it is not as if JJ became the GM last year, if he is such a good GM why does this team lack depth?

arent late rounds and UDFAs where most teams get and develop their depth players?

then read the list line in my quote and the answer will become evident.

JJ is one of the worst GMs in football

the coolaid is definitely strong in this post