Jerry Jones explains Cowboys' trade for Matt Cassel

[Derinyar]

If Weeden gets hurt then the next guy plays. Isn't that the idea behind "next man up"? What if Weeden and Cassel both get hurt? Who plays? Does the team trade another pick for someone else's backup?

At that point I'd guess Ponder or one of the guys we worked out before the trade is back in here.

 

[TwoDeep3]

They have a great warm sound. Even the Studio versions, but the attention to detail isn't what it should be with the Gibson Studio Les Paul models. Go with at least a standard if you can. My Studio sounded great, but it had paint on the neck. No way a $1k+ guitar should have paint on the side of the fredboard.

I will get another, but I will hands on inspect it. I will take another studio *IF* it passes hands on inspection. (it sounded awesome) Otherwise, it will at least be a standard version.

I hear people claim Craigslist is a waste, But I bought the Strat and a New Bugera 6260 120W 212 Tube Combo Amp for less than 1100 bucks. The guy who sold me the amp won a contest at his job and his friends talked him into the amp. He sold it to me for half what the sale price was on a new one. And it was less than a month old.

I watch CL and one day that tobacco sunburst Les Paul Custom will be sitting there for a price I can't pass up.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Cassel is an insurance policy in case either of these two things happen............

A. If Weeden gets injured

B. If Weeden is a total dumpster fire.

 

[Hoofbite]

Wow! I just don't know what to tell you. No team carries 3 or more vet QBs. You carry a starter, a vet backup and a developmental QB. If an injury happens, you adjust. That's what we did. You can't carry veterans three Deep at every position. There's this thing called a salary cap and a 53 man roster. You simply make adjustments when you have to. This is not hard to follow.

Yes, there is a salary cap. No, it doesn't prevent a team from having 3 veteran QBs. The cap charge difference between whatever experienced QB you would have compared to the "developmental QB" is inconsequential.

Yes, there are roster limits. Half the league has 3 QBs on their 53 man roster so apparently having 3 QBs is not impossible from a roster limit standpoint.

These are non-issues. Neither of these is why teams typically don't have 3 veteran QBs.

Furthermore, I know you'd like to think Dallas had a starter, a veteran backup, and a developmental player but you must not have been paying much attention to Coach Garrett over the last couple of offseasons. Brandon is the developmental player. He said it himself so it looks like Dallas actually went into the season with a starter and 2 developmental players. Seems like there might be room for a veteran in the mix, no?

The real reason most teams don't have 3 veteran QBs is because there aren't enough veteran QBs. Hell, over a dozen teams have a backup with 4 or fewer seasons in the NFL. Same as Kellen Moore. That said, a team who saw a need for 3 veteran QBs could most certainly make it happen. Say......a team with a QB with questionable health.......or, maybe a team that would feel the need to acquire another veteran QB if their starter went down. They could make that happen during free agency.

There's my dislike for the move. Dallas has a QB with questionable health, and they just felt the need to acquire another veteran. Not only does this highlight the fact that the cap and roster limit are irrelevant in terms of a team's ability to carry 3 veteran QBs, but it also raises the question as to why they didn't just sign Cassel (or someone else) during free agency. What if Cassel would have beaten out Weeden for the backup job? Would you not feel any more confident with the winner of the backup job starting this week compared to the developmental guy who was handed the job on a silver platter?

If you knew your backups weren't up to snuff and you knew that you would seek a better alternative if they were called upon, why the hell didn't you just seek better backups in the first place? What sense does it make to say, "we're confident in our backups provided they never have to sniff the field"?

 

[Bullflop]

It looks to me as though the FO panicked and got Moore out of desperation. Once they got him in house, they fully realized how unprepared he was and decided to trade for Cassel, giving up a 2017 fifth round pick for the Bills #7. Someone (unrevealed) in the organization let it be known that the current plan is to indoctrinate Cassel into the C'boys system. Once he's ready, Cassel becomes our #2 and Moore is relegated to the #3 role.

It seems an unorganized way of doing business by the looks of things but I suppose that's what you get when panic ensues. The question now becomes what does the future hold for Moore? Will be be retained as our QB of the future or will he eventually be disposed of as the object of a premature decision? If I were Moore, I'd be asking that question (be it either inwardly or vocally.) We're seeing some bizarre goings-on at VR these days.

 

[dallasdave]

Jones talks about the reasoning behind the signing. (if it wasn't obvious)

The most interesting thing is what David Lee said at the bottom of the article. Is that a typo?!??!


LINK to Article

Good article

 

[BourbonBalz]

Yes, there is a salary cap. No, it doesn't prevent a team from having 3 veteran QBs. The cap charge difference between whatever experienced QB you would have compared to the "developmental QB" is inconsequential.

Yes, there are roster limits. Half the league has 3 QBs on their 53 man roster so apparently having 3 QBs is not impossible from a roster limit standpoint.

These are non-issues. Neither of these is why teams typically don't have 3 veteran QBs.

Furthermore, I know you'd like to think Dallas had a starter, a veteran backup, and a developmental player but you must not have been paying much attention to Coach Garrett over the last couple of offseasons. Brandon is the developmental player. He said it himself so it looks like Dallas actually went into the season with a starter and 2 developmental players. Seems like there might be room for a veteran in the mix, no?

The real reason most teams don't have 3 veteran QBs is because there aren't enough veteran QBs. Hell, over a dozen teams have a backup with 4 or fewer seasons in the NFL. Same as Kellen Moore. That said, a team who saw a need for 3 veteran QBs could most certainly make it happen. Say......a team with a QB with questionable health.......or, maybe a team that would feel the need to acquire another veteran QB if their starter went down. They could make that happen during free agency.

There's my dislike for the move. Dallas has a QB with questionable health, and they just felt the need to acquire another veteran. Not only does this highlight the fact that the cap and roster limit are irrelevant in terms of a team's ability to carry 3 veteran QBs, but it also raises the question as to why they didn't just sign Cassel (or someone else) during free agency. What if Cassel would have beaten out Weeden for the backup job? Would you not feel any more confident with the winner of the backup job starting this week compared to the developmental guy who was handed the job on a silver platter?

If you knew your backups weren't up to snuff and you knew that you would seek a better alternative if they were called upon, why the hell didn't you just seek better backups in the first place? What sense does it make to say, "we're confident in our backups provided they never have to sniff the field"?

It's clear all you want to do is argue and bash the front office for making a responsible move. So be it. Enjoy. Most fans with a shread of common sense and knowledge like the move for what it is.

 

[Stash]

I see two things. A public pledge of support and confidence for Brandon Weeden, accompanied by a hedging your bet transaction in case he stumbles.

Weeden has a ton of pressure, and a ton of opportunity. He's at a career crossroads in the biggest audition of his life. He can potentially resurrect what has been, to date, a disappointing pro career, or he can confirm what everyone believed of him and fail.

The Cowboys have publicly said that they support him, but the have insured themselves against him not meeting expectations. I feel that, if Weeden struggles or costs the team games over the next two weeks, the team will close the door on him and go with Cassel, possibly to the point of releasing Weeden.

I think things can go from that one extreme to the next. He can be the guy leading this team and angling toward being a possible starting quarterback again, or he can go to being another failed first round pick trying to get back in the league.

But this team has refused to tie their entire season to one player.

 

[manster4ever]

I see two things. A public pledge of support and confidence for Brandon Weeden, accompanied by a hedging your bet transaction in case he stumbles.

Weeden has a ton of pressure, and a ton of opportunity. He's at a career crossroads in the biggest audition of his life. He can potentially resurrect what has been, to date, a disappointing pro career, or he can confirm what everyone believed of him and fail.

The Cowboys have publicly said that they support him, but the have insured themselves against him not meeting expectations. I feel that, if Weeden struggles or costs the team games over the next two weeks, the team will close the door on him and go with Cassel, possibly to the point of releasing Weeden.

I think things can go from that one extreme to the next. He can be the guy leading this team and angling toward being a possible starting quarterback again, or he can go to being another failed first round pick trying to get back in the league.

But this team has refused to tie their entire season to one player.[/quote

Great post....I agree with every word stasheroo

 

[Doomsday101]

That's generally how backups work. Guy in front of them get hurt, so now they play. The problem I have is that the move looks to more than just a "need a backup for Weeden". It looks like they're insuring themselves against the possibility that Weeden might not get the job done.

I'm sure that is a part of it, I don't see the issue with covering yourself. I think it falls to Weeden to show he is the man and to keep the job he has to play well, if not then Dallas has something to turn to besides Moore. I would think the last thing we would want is a situation where the season falls on Weeden with no backup plan. I think the move is justified and given the fact you will not find much out there I think Cassel is not a bad option. He has performed well when he has had talent around him

 

[Doomsday101]

Yes, there is a salary cap. No, it doesn't prevent a team from having 3 veteran QBs. The cap charge difference between whatever experienced QB you would have compared to the "developmental QB" is inconsequential.

Yes, there are roster limits. Half the league has 3 QBs on their 53 man roster so apparently having 3 QBs is not impossible from a roster limit standpoint.

These are non-issues. Neither of these is why teams typically don't have 3 veteran QBs.

Furthermore, I know you'd like to think Dallas had a starter, a veteran backup, and a developmental player but you must not have been paying much attention to Coach Garrett over the last couple of offseasons. Brandon is the developmental player. He said it himself so it looks like Dallas actually went into the season with a starter and 2 developmental players. Seems like there might be room for a veteran in the mix, no?

The real reason most teams don't have 3 veteran QBs is because there aren't enough veteran QBs. Hell, over a dozen teams have a backup with 4 or fewer seasons in the NFL. Same as Kellen Moore. That said, a team who saw a need for 3 veteran QBs could most certainly make it happen. Say......a team with a QB with questionable health.......or, maybe a team that would feel the need to acquire another veteran QB if their starter went down. They could make that happen during free agency.

There's my dislike for the move. Dallas has a QB with questionable health, and they just felt the need to acquire another veteran. Not only does this highlight the fact that the cap and roster limit are irrelevant in terms of a team's ability to carry 3 veteran QBs, but it also raises the question as to why they didn't just sign Cassel (or someone else) during free agency. What if Cassel would have beaten out Weeden for the backup job? Would you not feel any more confident with the winner of the backup job starting this week compared to the developmental guy who was handed the job on a silver platter?

If you knew your backups weren't up to snuff and you knew that you would seek a better alternative if they were called upon, why the hell didn't you just seek better backups in the first place? What sense does it make to say, "we're confident in our backups provided they never have to sniff the field"?

I think they feel Weeden can do the job or he would not be here but it does not change the fact that now you are down to the backup so then who backs him up? Cassel deal is 1.7 mill 1 year deal very reasonable for a backup QB. Even if people on this board were 100% sold on Weeden it does not change the fact now who is his backup? If Dallas felt Moore was ready he would be the backup evidently they see him as developmental at this stage.