Jerry Jones has become the late stage version of Al Davis

[J_Allen]

At least the Raiders were competitive and did make the Super Bowl and almost made it again if not for the tuck rule. We haven't been near the Super Bowl in almost 30 years.

There is no hope for us fans.

 

[OGSixshooter]

and then if you take the analogy out even further...Stephen Jones is Mark Davis. Oy vey...

 

[RonWashington]

Mark Davis looks like Mo Howard with blond hair.

Mo Howard the LB ?

 

[805BoysInBlue]

How has that equated to wins?

That’s great for his personal life, not so much for his team. .

Lmao. You can't be serious.

 

[805BoysInBlue]

Think his money is helping him? Or his looks?

From what I've read he dosent have a lot of money. OF models aren't known for their smarts though.

 

[rocknrobcowboy]

As well as JB

 

[J_Allen]

From what I've read he dosent have a lot of money. OF models aren't known for their smarts though.

His net worth is 2.3 billion.

 

[acr731]

Mo Howard the LB ?

Moe Howard from the 3 Stooges.... Moe is on the left.

Bob is showing his age LOL

 

[RonWashington]

Moe Howard from the 3 Stooges.... Moe is on the left.

Bob is showing his age LOL

I was always a Schemp fan .

 

[Bobhaze]

Moe Howard from the 3 Stooges.... Moe is on the left.

Bob is showing his age LOL

I’m old.

 

[RonWashington]

I’m old.

I’ve joined that club myself

 

[Bobhaze]

Big difference is Al Davis really was a football guy, more so than Jerry could ever claim. He had a 15 year stint in coaching that ran from 1950 to 1965. What is on Jerry's resume that screams 'football guy'? Not a damn thing.

Al just turned crazy as he aged while Jerry fell off his rocker by age 55.

This is true - unlike Jerry, Al Davis WAS a true football man. He was once a position coach at the college and pro level and was also the raiders head coach for 3 seasons. Davis was a serious scout who studied tons of film and traveled to scout players all over the place.

Al Davis knew more about football than Jerry ever will. The closest Jerry has ever been to a film room is at a public movie theater,

 

[dupree89]

Both of them have a similar problem.

It's not that Jerry doesn't care about winning. Jerry just doesn't care about winning unless it's done his way. It's not fun for him otherwise, it's someone elese's accomplishments.

He will accept endless seasons of mediocrity and early playoff exists over one season with a Super Bowl where Jerry sat quietly and the trophy was won by an outside GM and coach that had freedom and roster authority.

great post

 

[RonWashington]

This is true - unlike Jerry, Al Davis WAS a true football man. He was once a position coach at the college and pro level and was also the raiders head coach for 3 seasons. Davis was a serious scout who studied tons of film and traveled to scout players all over the place.

Al Davis knew more about football than Jerry ever will. The closest Jerry has ever been to a film room is at a public movie theater,

Great post . Al Davis was part of the old AFL helped get it off the ground and the NFL had to merge couldn’t ignore them .

 

[Boysdaboys]

Record wise, the Cowboys are much better under Jerry vs Raiders under old Al. We went to the postseason more. Drafted way better.

That said, we are no closer to a title because the front office doesn't believe in free agency. They also get attached to players and overrate them.

 

[RonWashington]

Record wise, the Cowboys are much better under Jerry vs Raiders under old Al. We went to the postseason more. Drafted way better.

That said, we are no closer to a title because the front office doesn't believe in free agency. They also get attached to players and overrate them.

And the Cowboys have 5 SB wins the Raiders only 3 . Raiders last SB win 1984 . 40 yrs . Yikes

 

[atlantacowboy]

The late great Hall of Fame owner, GM and former head coach of the Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders Al Davis was certainly an enigma. He was both great and weird. He was innovative but eventually became stuck in the past. His raiders teams won 3 Super Bowls and were a dominant force in the old AFL and eventually the NFL in the 1960s through the 1980s.

But at the end of his life, Davis was a stubborn old man, refusing to step aside even as his health and ability to put a winner on the field began to decline. His raiders suffered 7 straight losing seasons in his last 8 seasons as GM. In his last season in 2011, he died before the season ended and his team finished 8-8.

Sound familiar? We may be entering the Jerry Jones version of Al Davis’ career ending. Hope not but does anyone think Jerry would listen to reason at this point?

Al Davis was known to be the primary mentor for Jerry Jones when he became an owner and GM of the Cowboys at aged 46 in early 1989. Davis always told Jerry that he should never cede control of his team to anyone. And Jerry has certainly taken that to heart. It is certainly no coincidence that Jerry has now tied Al Davis as the oldest General Manager in NFL history. At some point in 2025, Jerry will surpass Davis as THE oldest.

The saddest part of all this is at the end of his storied career, Al Davis basically went into a cocoon, listening to no one but family and sycophants who feared him too much to tell him he was hurting his team. If you look at some of Davis’ actions the last few years, it was crazy. Some examples include:

• He drafted K Sebastian Janakowski in the first round of the 2000 draft, and although he was a good K, he would have been available in the later rounds.
• He drafted QB JaMarcus Russell with the first pick of the 2007 draft and Russell turned into perhaps the biggest QB bust of this century.
• He hired and fired 7 head coaches in a little over a decade, making Jerry look stable. He hired two coaches for one year stints.

Davis was famous for firing coaches at the drop of a hat and was famously hard to work for late in his career as opposed to his earlier years when he had all time great coaches like John Madden and Tom Flores who won SBs in the 70s and 80s. Unlike Jerry he did not hold post game pressers after every game and did not do media interviews around the clock.

Bottom line: Jerry Jones has become what Al Davis became late in his career - out of touch, angry, isolated and not capable of putting a team together anymore that could win playoff games. I would love to think Stephen or Charlotte could do an intervention but that is not likely.

Yep, I've seen this before many times. Jerry lashing out at radio hosts asking him legit questions is yet another sign he has dementia. These seniors are quick to anger and lash out without much provocation. They insist on their own mental acuity and are the last ones to recognize their illness. Some never do. They live in their own reality. Stephen and Charlotte should insist on an MRI.

 

[Established1971]

bingo

 

[Established1971]

Bob I'd love it if you did some kind of analysis of the history (at least recent) of franchises where the famous owner passes and the children keep running it. That would be very interesting. Giants, Chiefs, Raiders come to mind. What's the general track record of the successors, what are the biggest success and biggest flops. Its kind of impolite I suppose, even on a forum the family likely doesn't read, but we are all thinking it. Jerrys time is short. What might await us.

 

[Established1971]

Yep, I've seen this before many times. Jerry lashing out at radio hosts asking him legit questions is yet another sign he has dementia. These seniors are quick to anger and lash out without much provocation. They insist on their own mental acuity and are the last ones to recognize their illness. Some never do. They live in their own reality. Stephen and Charlotte should insist on an MRI.

Yikes, a bit of bias in these comments here.