Jerry Jones has become the late stage version of Al Davis

[offlimits]

This is true - unlike Jerry, Al Davis WAS a true football man. He was once a position coach at the college and pro level and was also the raiders head coach for 3 seasons. Davis was a serious scout who studied tons of film and traveled to scout players all over the place.

Al Davis knew more about football than Jerry ever will. The closest Jerry has ever been to a film room is at a public movie theater,

Jerry Jones was co-captain of the Arkansas Razorbacks, which won the NCAA National Championship in 1964, so I think he has watched some game film in his time.

 

[Bobhaze]

Jerry Jones was co-captain of the Arkansas Razorbacks, which won the NCAA National Championship in 1964, so I think he has watched some game film in his time.

Yeah that 1964 Razorback highlight film might have been his last film watch. According to Jerry himself, he doesn’t watch film.

 

[offlimits]

There's only one hope in our future that someone with a lot more money than Jerry and who is as big a cowboy fan as we all are on this forum gets fed up watching this Spit show and makes Jerry an offer he can't refuse.

Has to be somebody young enough and wealthy enough also disgusted enough to take on this project and make something out of this team again.

How many of those people exist on the planet I'm not sure probably some that don't even know what football is or care.

But as long as Jerry or any of his descendants own this team we will never see a championship.

New ownership is our only salvation

A member of the Jones family will ALWAYS own Dallas Cowboys, Inc. at least in our lifetimes and probably beyond. This nonsense about the Jones family selling gets old.

 

[Bobhaze]

A member of the Jones family will ALWAYS own Dallas Cowboys, Inc. at least in our lifetimes and probably beyond. This nonsense about the Jones family selling gets old.

Not as old as having to watch and listen to the Jones family.

 

[Diehardblues]

Yeah that 1964 Razorback highlight film might have been his last film watch. According to Jerry himself, he doesn’t watch film.

Yea. It’s amazing how defenders of our owner like to use his playing days on Arkansas National Champ team in a time when 190 lbs was enough for a lineman in an all white league.

High schools have greater, bigger and faster athletes now. Maybe some Jr Highs.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Yea. It’s amazing how defenders of our owner like to use his playing days on Arkansas National Champ team in a time when 190 lbs was enough for a lineman in an all white league.

High schools have greater, bigger and faster athletes now. Maybe some Jr Highs.

It's the AL Bundy defense. Lol

 

[Diehardblues]

A member of the Jones family will ALWAYS own Dallas Cowboys, Inc. at least in our lifetimes and probably beyond. This nonsense about the Jones family selling gets old.

That’s not an absolute certainty written in stone. Remember this was Jethro’s dream not theirs.

And with several siblings involved it’s not as likely they’d agree for only one to take a similar approach and control as their Daddy has. Their mother stated years ago she didn’t want any to place themselves in the same public scrutiny.

Most owners whose family carry’s the torch are only child and no siblings to squabble with in operations .

There’s always hope the siblings could come to a conclusion if the team was struggling with continued public pressure and fallout to sell out to save face .

The other hope is the siblings will take a lesser more normal owners role and hire real GM and or VP to run football operations .

 

[Diehardblues]

I honestly don’t believe Jethro cares about the Cowboys unless he’s involved. In other words he wouldn’t want to be an owner unless he was able to live out his dream to be a celebrity football guy.

Remember winning back to back championships wasn’t enough unless he was credited and more in the spotlight . He wasn’t taking a lesser role and playing second fiddle to anyone regardless if it meant less success on the field .

He wants to be the face of the franchise despite whatever those circumstances or results present. It’s always been more about him than the Dallas Cowboys.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

That’s not an absolute certainty written in stone. Remember this was Jethro’s dream not theirs.

And with several siblings involved it’s not as likely they’d agree for only one to take a similar approach and control as their Daddy has. Their mother stated years ago she didn’t want any to place themselves in the same public scrutiny.

Most owners whose family carry’s the torch are only child and no siblings to squabble with in operations .

There’s always hope the siblings could come to a conclusion if the team was struggling with continued public pressure and fallout to sell out to save face .

The other hope is the siblings will take a lesser more normal owners role and hire real GM and or VP to run football operations .

The latter is our best hope. I could see Stephen and the rest wanting to enjoy the billions and not be going to bed having millions of people hoping you become plant food. Jerry puts up with it because it’s in his nature. His dream to not just be wealthy but be recognized and talked about. Otherwise he would just be another old billionaire.

 

[gtb1943]

Jerry Jones was co-captain of the Arkansas Razorbacks, which won the NCAA National Championship in 1964, so I think he has watched some game film in his time.

he certainly remembered nothing or he would have known that having very good DTs is a requirement for a good Defense
I mean a guard OUGHT TO KNOW how important a DEFENSIVE TACKLE is to a DEFENSE, right?

 

[RonWashington]

Jerry Jones was co-captain of the Arkansas Razorbacks, which won the NCAA National Championship in 1964, so I think he has watched some game film in his time.

Playing college football 60 yrs ago does not make you an NFL GM . Sorry it doesn’t .

 

[RodeoJake]

Jerry Jones was co-captain of the Arkansas Razorbacks, which won the NCAA National Championship in 1964, so I think he has watched some game film in his time.

You really believe college teams used film in 1964?

 

[offlimits]

Playing college football 60 yrs ago does not make you an NFL GM . Sorry it doesn’t .

I agree perhaps but he has more football cred than 75 % of the kids on this website.

 

[RonWashington]

I agree perhaps but he has more football cred than 75 % of the kids on this website.

Well I hope owning a team since 89 some football has rubbed off on him . You had the perfect storm with Jimmy knowing Jerry and with help a three time SB winner was crafted . Now it’s like seriously without Jerry the Cowboys may come back with him it looks doubtful

 

[RonWashington]

Are you serious? Yes. You must be very young or stu***

I had a comment about film early 60’s that’s historical but I’m not going to go there . In Dallas no less .

 

[TheCritic]

Makes you appreciate Jimmy Johnson even more! Probably the only coach on the planet at the time that had the clout, the will, the balls and intensity to override Jerry Jones and the soft culture of the late 80s Landry era. And even Johnson could only stomach it for so long. Johnson had to have known in his last season with the Cowboys that he was fighting a losing battle with Jerry Jones and parasitic culture of Cowboys nation (media, fans) and got out at the right time.
Getting rid of the Jones family would be the best thing ever, but to me it's only a start. The Dallas Cowboys need to find a new identity, shed the America's Team image, get rid of the 90s hanger-ons and just build a new tradition based on winning as if nothing else matters.

 

[RodeoJake]

I had a comment about film early 60’s that’s historical but I’m not going to go there . In Dallas no less .

I'd be interested in hearing what you know.

 

[RonWashington]

Makes you appreciate Jimmy Johnson even more! Probably the only coach on the planet at the time that had the clout, the will, the balls and intensity to override Jerry Jones and the soft culture of the late 80s Landry era. And even Johnson could only stomach it for so long. Johnson had to have known in his last season with the Cowboys that he was fighting a losing battle with Jerry Jones and parasitic culture of Cowboys nation (media, fans) and got out at the right time.
Getting rid of the Jones family would be the best thing ever, but to me it's only a start. The Dallas Cowboys need to find a new identity, shed the America's Team image, get rid of the 90s hanger-ons and just build a new tradition based on winning as if nothing else matters.

Jones family ain’t selling . Cash cow on the Arlington prairie off Interstate 30

 

[nate dizzle]

The late great Hall of Fame owner, GM and former head coach of the Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders Al Davis was certainly an enigma. He was both great and weird. He was innovative but eventually became stuck in the past. His raiders teams won 3 Super Bowls and were a dominant force in the old AFL and eventually the NFL in the 1960s through the 1980s.

But at the end of his life, Davis was a stubborn old man, refusing to step aside even as his health and ability to put a winner on the field began to decline. His raiders suffered 7 straight losing seasons in his last 8 seasons as GM. In his last season in 2011, he died before the season ended and his team finished 8-8.

Sound familiar? We may be entering the Jerry Jones version of Al Davis’ career ending. Hope not but does anyone think Jerry would listen to reason at this point?

Al Davis was known to be the primary mentor for Jerry Jones when he became an owner and GM of the Cowboys at aged 46 in early 1989. Davis always told Jerry that he should never cede control of his team to anyone. And Jerry has certainly taken that to heart. It is certainly no coincidence that Jerry has now tied Al Davis as the oldest General Manager in NFL history. At some point in 2025, Jerry will surpass Davis as THE oldest.

The saddest part of all this is at the end of his storied career, Al Davis basically went into a cocoon, listening to no one but family and sycophants who feared him too much to tell him he was hurting his team. If you look at some of Davis’ actions the last few years, it was crazy. Some examples include:

• He drafted K Sebastian Janakowski in the first round of the 2000 draft, and although he was a good K, he would have been available in the later rounds.
• He drafted QB JaMarcus Russell with the first pick of the 2007 draft and Russell turned into perhaps the biggest QB bust of this century.
• He hired and fired 7 head coaches in a little over a decade, making Jerry look stable. He hired two coaches for one year stints.

Davis was famous for firing coaches at the drop of a hat and was famously hard to work for late in his career as opposed to his earlier years when he had all time great coaches like John Madden and Tom Flores who won SBs in the 70s and 80s. Unlike Jerry he did not hold post game pressers after every game and did not do media interviews around the clock.

Bottom line: Jerry Jones has become what Al Davis became late in his career - out of touch, angry, isolated and not capable of putting a team together anymore that could win playoff games. I would love to think Stephen or Charlotte could do an intervention but that is not likely.

Can't wait for end stage Al Davis

 

[RonWashington]

I'd be interested in hearing what you know.

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