Jerry Jones: Zeke was (picked) too high for us"

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I’d take Adrian Peterson but that’s about it in the last 20 years.

If Romo had stayed healthy though and won a title I think Zeke would have been worth it.

Zeke was amazing when he could outrun the whole defense.

A lot of backs have power or speed but he had both.
He was a clown from day1 who never took his gifts seriously. Its sad that his career amounted to 3 good years. The annals of NFL history are littered with RBs who could have and should have done more with their talent.
 

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So Dak flopped in the playoffs? You mean the Packers game where he went for 300 yards and 3 TD's and a 103 QBR? :lmao::lmao::laugh::laugh:

You trolls cant even get your story striaght?

This argument isnt about who had more of an impact, this argument is that some clown said Dak had no impact.

Game, Set, Match!!!


The biggest impact in the 2016 season was the Oline. That was what lead the offense. Gave Zeke the holes he so desparately needed and Dak the time he needed to throw the football.

You put any quality back behind that 2016 line and they look great.

As soon as the line went, Zeke went.
No, he went for 290 yards AT HOME against a Packers secondary that was giving up over 400 yards on defense regularly against bums going into the playoffs, including a crucial INT in the third, while Linehan as usual went heavy Zeke. Also, it's comical that Dak was the hero, but Dez became the scape-goat despite going buckwild that game, only to be canned the next off-season and the scapegoat for Dak sucking.

AGAIN you completely ignore the fact Dallas sat Zeke in the final game of the season, and still played Dak who looked like a disaster against the Eagles, while Romo had no problems marching down the field and putting the ball in the end-zone without Zeke. Again 2017, it was same OL and Dak competely sucked when Zeke was suspended and defenses basically just sat on Cole Beasley's out routes, with Cole becoming the next scapegoat in 2018, only to be followed by Cooper 2 seasons ago. Dak actually sucked even before Zeke, when Linehan apparently thought Dak could take on some additional duties, but was a walking pick 6 against Denver, so Linehan then took the ball away from his hands and went heavy dosage of Zeke, until he was suspended. Dak didn't beat a winning team, couldn't even put up double digit scoring against winning teams, even with Smith came back, before you try and use that excuse.

Again, it's comical how yuo Dak-homers will say that the roster carried Cooper Rush, but the same roster caused Dak to suck. Rush got the COwboys within 3 against the Eagles in his 4th career start. He was entitled to a bad game, unliek Dak's multiple bad games against the Vikings and Giants in 2016, the only decent defenses he played, all of 2017 and 2018 without Amari Cooper, 2019 against teams like the Jets, Bills and other bottom dwellers during that season and with his 7 TOs to start 2020 and 2021 and this year with all his pick 6s.

But then again, we are talking about a third string backup QB you Dak-azoid are trying to seek some validation for regrading Dak. Rush did exactly what Dak was doing in 2016.
 
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Any good back? In 2016 Alfred Morris averaged 3.5 ypc and Darren McFadden 3.6 behind that same line. And I dare say both those guys were at least "good" backs.. though neither was ever what I would consider "great."

And Zeke did not "challenge for the rushing title." He won it by 300 yards while sitting out the last game. He averaged over 5 yards per carry and scored 15 rushing TDs while combining for almost 2000 yards from scrimmage. By comparison you keep bringing up McFadden's 1100 yard 2015 but gloss over his FOUR rushing TDs. Zeke ran for 500 more yards, had more receiving yards and oh yeah.. found pay dirt 4 times more often. All while playing one less game. Even Murray's magnificent 2014 he needed 1 more game and 70 more carries to achieve what he did.. And he ALSO scored three fewer TDs. And did I mention that the 2014 team ran the ball MORE than the 2016 team?

Point being.. it's okay to acknowledge that Zeke was special when he came into the league and thanks to Moore slamming him into the line over and over and making him pass block 40 times a game his body gave out. Both things can be true. If I'm not mistaken during the season that Zeke won his second rushing title in 2018 Joe Looney was the center, some rookie named Connor Williams was the left guard and Tyron missed 3 games and Zack missed 2. Let's quit acting as if the guy was not special his first 4 years in the league because he absolutely was. And we should all be saddened that the Cowboys wasted it. I know I am.
Lol….maybe in your book. Morris is not a good back. McFadden is on the fringe of good. And 2017 line isn’t the 2016 line. In 2015 McFadden averaged 4.6 ypc behind that great line.

and yes zeke was good when he first came in. Never said he wasnt. But the line made him look better than he was.
 

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No, he went for 290 yards AT HOME against a Packers secondary that was giving up over 400 yards on defense regularly against bums going into the playoffs, including a crucial INT in the third, while Linehan as usual went heavy Zeke. Also, it's comical that Dak was the hero, but Dez became the scape-goat despite going buckwild that game, only to be canned the next off-season and the scapegoat for Dak sucking.

AGAIN you completely ignore the fact Dallas sat Zeke in the final game of the season, and still played Dak who looked like a disaster against the Eagles, while Romo had no problems marching down the field and putting the ball in the end-zone without Zeke. Again 2017, it was same OL and Dak competely sucked when Zeke was suspended and defenses basically just sat on Cole Beasley's out routes, with Cole becoming the next scapegoat in 2018, only to be followed by Cooper 2 seasons ago. Dak actually sucked even before Zeke, when Linehan apparently thought Dak could take on some additional duties, but was a walking pick 6 against Denver, so Linehan then took the ball away from his hands and went heavy dosage of Zeke, until he was suspended. Dak didn't beat a winning team, couldn't even put up double digit scoring against winning teams, even with Smith came back, before you try and use that excuse.

Again, it's comical how yuo Dak-homers will say that the roster carried Cooper Rush, but the same roster caused Dak to suck. Rush got the COwboys within 3 against the Eagles in his 4th career start. He was entitled to a bad game, unliek Dak's multiple bad games against the Vikings and Giants in 2016, the only decent defenses he played, all of 2017 and 2018 without Amari Cooper, 2019 against teams like the Jets, Bills and other bottom dwellers during that season and with his 7 TOs to start 2020 and 2021 and this year with all his pick 6s.

But then again, we are talking about a third string backup QB you Dak-azoid are trying to seek some validation for regrading Dak. Rush did exactly what Dak was doing in 2016.
What do I care when they sat zeke? This is about a dumb comment about dak doing nothing his rookie year.

the Rest of your comments your not talking to me. Just and angry little dak troll.
 

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I could think of many worse picks Jerry made than Zeke.
It was a good pick. Eliete RB that curb stomped the best the NCAA had to offer in 2014. Not patsies, ...but essentially had to beat 4 good teams in a playoff. Mighty Bama and media darling ducks. 750 yard and 8 TDs in those 4 games...a seasons worth for some RBs/


As usual for jerry a stupid contract was the problem.
 

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I do, the defense would've been a lot better. Zeke wasn't responsible solely for the offense success at first. It was 80% the OL, 10% Dak and 10% Zeke. They certainly benefitted from a Beast Offensilve Line and the defensive would certainly been upgraded during that time with a player like Ramsey. That Oline was locked in, Zeke didn't do anything special with that line. Any quality starting RB wouldve had a good year just like McFadden and Demarco Murray the years before.
lets accept your premise... what happens each year then? Do we win a SB? do we make it to the title game? That is wild speculation.
 

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He WAS NOT special. He was good. Just looked special behind a locked in and Elite Offensive Line. Soon as the line disintegrated, Zeke became a JAG. McFadden/Zeke/Murray all did pretty well with the core offensive line when it was intact. Murray was better than Zeke.
same with Emmitt... he was just an avg guy behind that line........smh

IN the words of Nate Newton... I was just an avg player. Emmitt Smith showed up, and I became a pro bowler.
 

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lets accept your premise... what happens each year then? Do we win a SB? do we make it to the title game? That is wild speculation.
Never know, what happens if Jaylon Ramsey picks Aaron Rodgers on 3rd and forever in the playoff game. We know Zeke didn't break any runs or open the game up, that's for sure...
 

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same with Emmitt... he was just an avg guy behind that line........smh

IN the words of Nate Newton... I was just an avg player. Emmitt Smith showed up, and I became a pro bowler.
Emmitt was better pretty much in every way compared to Zeke, especially in breaking tackles and vision. Wasn't even close...hungover Zeke had to have a wide open field to break one.
 

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Emmitt was better pretty much in every way compared to Zeke, especially in breaking tackles and vision. Wasn't even close...hungover Zeke had to have a wide open field to break one.
sure.... a rushing champion was not able to break tackles.....lol
 

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sure.... a rushing champion was not able to break tackles.....lol
Umm.. I meant break a long run. Zeke COULD break tackles but he had trouble, the last few years he couldn't break ANY.

You are not giving the offensive line any credit. Most of his long runs his rookie season he wasn't touched until the second level and most of the time, he'd fall over someone. Emmitt regularly made guys miss or broke through their tackles and he did it for a LOOOONG time.

I get it man. Guys like you just see the player get a TD, rush out buy his jersey to put his name on your back and then you're happy as a clam and the player can do no wrong. I just don't think Zeke was ever THAT good. The stud oline got him his running title, fell off the side of the mountain and wasn't the same when key people left. Got exposed for the average to good RB he was. NOT ELITE...
 

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Umm.. I meant break a long run. Zeke COULD break tackles but he had trouble, the last few years he couldn't break ANY.

You are not giving the offensive line any credit. Most of his long runs his rookie season he wasn't touched until the second level and most of the time, he'd fall over someone. Emmitt regularly made guys miss or broke through their tackles and he did it for a LOOOONG time.

I get it man. Guys like you just see the player get a TD, rush out buy his jersey to put his name on your back and then you're happy as a clam and the player can do no wrong. I just don't think Zeke was ever THAT good. The stud oline got him his running title, fell off the side of the mountain and wasn't the same when key people left. Got exposed for the average to good RB he was. NOT ELITE...
Guys like me???? To avoid getting suspended...... imagine being told off.
 

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You had to purposely misunderstand him. The only way you do that is if you have your own personal agenda to push.
Exactly. The word "picked" was added to what he actually said.

”Zeke is a good football player. He’s still an outstanding football player. I’ll say the word, ‘outstanding’ football player. He’s too high for us, where he was. That has a lot to do with this conversation about running back.”
 

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we had a super bowl window with zeke and dak as rookies and A A Ron on a lucky play closed it
 

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we had a super bowl window with zeke and dak as rookies and A A Ron on a lucky play closed it
Imaginary Super Bowl window. The defense gave up four TD drives of 75+ yards to the Packers. Even after the Cowboys tied it with less than a minute to play, they failed.

Dak and Zeke weren't the problem in 2016. The if-Romo-had-played fantasy is nonsense. The defense wasn't good enough, and got exposed in the 34-31 loss.
 
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