Jerry Jones: Zeke was (picked) too high for us"

sandbridge77

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Zeke and the run game were a big part of the success. That was never in doubt and not what the argument is about. The argument is about the clowns that try to claim that Zeke carried Dak or that Dak had nothing to do with the success that year. That claim is easily dispelled.

The accurate analysis is that the Oline was the #1 thing that year that made that offense go. If you had to pick ONE factor it would be the Oline.

Those that dont understand football, will see only a RB picking up yards. Those that do understand football, know that the Oline was the heartbeat of that football team for several years around that time.

If it wasnt Zeke it was Murray. Put any good back behind that great Oline and give them 300 carries and they will challenge for the rushing title.
Why didn’t that happen the year Elliot was suspended?
 

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Once again Jerry's comments taken out of context. And depending ones agenda and narratives will come into play.

It was the right decision at the time. As Tony needed a RB, not a CB.

If Ramsey was picked, he would have pulled the same crap he did in Jacksonville and would want out. Or, he would have done the same thing and want a HUGE contract. Jerry would have overpaid or trade him for a 5th round pick. The same fans that wanted him then, and now would be complaining and hate on the guy.

If I had my way that draft, what I really wanted was a QB in the 1st round, RB, such as Henry in the 2nd round. Regardless of how much I wanted them to take Zeke, that was what I preferred, QB then RB. If not a QB, then RB over CB.

Instead we are still stuck with a certain QB and no RB. :popcorn:


Not to mention that he'd have had Marinelli as his DC. He'd probably have been considered a bust here, and this forum probably would've wished we had gotten Zeke.
 

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Putting any back behind that great o line, didn’t say his suspension ruined the season? Any good back could win a rushing title behind that line, is what you said I believe.
Yes I have said many times that Zeke's suspension single hadidly ruined that season.

What I said about the line is that you put any good back behind that 2016 line and give him 300 carries and he will be challenging for the rushing title.

What of it?

Murray had 1800 yards behind that line. McFadden had 1400 combined yards behind that line the year prior. 1100 yards rushing and 4.6 ypc in 2015.
 

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I thought the buck stops at Jerry’s desk?
I think it does, which is why they released him. Here's what Jerry actually said. Notice which word is missing:

”Zeke is a good football player. He’s still an outstanding football player. I’ll say the word, ‘outstanding’ football player. He’s too high for us, where he was. That has a lot to do with this conversation about running back.”

He wasn't talking about where they picked him. He was talking about why they cut him, but adding (picked) made for a better tweet/headline.
 

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I think it does, which is why they released him. Here's what Jerry actually said. Notice which word is missing:

”Zeke is a good football player. He’s still an outstanding football player. I’ll say the word, ‘outstanding’ football player. He’s too high for us, where he was. That has a lot to do with this conversation about running back.”

He wasn't talking about where they picked him. He was talking about why they cut him, but adding (picked) made for a better tweet/headline.
I just lost a lot of respect for Clarence. Maybe Clarence should retire.
 

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To be fair….

Both Morris and McFadden both struggled that year.

But Zeke dominated.
Are you talking 16? Cause in 15 McFadden did not struggle he had over 1000 and truth be told morris was used up by the time we got him

Pretty much any one zekes age could have excelled with that line if we had Henry he would probably had 2000 yards or more

Roy is right IMO
 

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Honestly I’m still glad we didn’t take Ramsey. That guy has been a locker room disaster and is on his third team already. You look at the 2016 first round and there are tons of busts. Tunsil and Buckner were probably the best picks and both those dudes were traded.
Tunsil wore a face diaper before they were in vogue If you remember! The guy has done quite well for himself.
 

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Honestly I’m still glad we didn’t take Ramsey. That guy has been a locker room disaster and is on his third team already. You look at the 2016 first round and there are tons of busts. Tunsil and Buckner were probably the best picks and both those dudes were traded.
Ya Ramsey may have been a distraction but maybe not here and can you imagine Byron Jones and Ramsey in defense backfield and Henry in the second round behind the line. Guarantee you Ramsey don’t allow the 3rd and 21 completion that Rodgers did in 16 to knock us out

Well I won’t guarantee it but I like our chances of knocking him out that year
 

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You wonder, If the second coming of Emmitt Smith is available in the draft, and it is a known fact, I'm talking long, productive HOF career, multiple rushing titles, the whole Emmitt package, does he go in the top 10 in tomorrow's draft?
 

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You wonder, If the second coming of Emmitt Smith is available in the draft, and it is a known fact, I'm talking long, productive HOF career, multiple rushing titles, the whole Emmitt package, does he go in the top 10 in tomorrow's draft?
I loved me some emmitt but he was made by the line imo

So I’m not opposed to the line being our first pick but I’m also cool with Bijan or Gibbs either
 

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I think it did help them though.

The logic was to help Romo and that piece may very well have put us over the top and in the Super Bowl had Romo stayed healthy.

It also took a lot of pressure off Dak at a time where if the left tackle set out a game his career was in jeopardy.

Zeke and the OL is the only reason Dak gained the confidence to last this long.
Team would have been worlds better with Ramsey in the first and Henry in the 2nd. Henry was the better back and we needed defense and a defensive leader.
 

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So he picked him to high and then paid him too much. What a clown of a GM.
 

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Yes I have said many times that Zeke's suspension single hadidly ruined that season.

What I said about the line is that you put any good back behind that 2016 line and give him 300 carries and he will be challenging for the rushing title.

What of it?

Murray had 1800 yards behind that line. McFadden had 1400 combined yards behind that line the year prior. 1100 yards rushing and 4.6 ypc in 2015.
So how could a guy who got suspended ruin a season when anybody could run behind that line ?
 
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