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Jerry would be the best owner if he would back off the GM roll and hire a real one...its not going to happen though....one of the best.
 

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I will have to go with Dan Rooney as the best owner in the game today just because I have tremendous respect for the families of the original NFL owners. Dan took over in 1988 after his father Art stepped aside. He has been part of the inner workings of that team since 1955.

The other long time families are the Browns in Cincy, Halas' duaghter in Chicago and Bidwell with the Cardinals. They simply have not had the same success as Rooney who was following a true giant in his father.

The Mara's in New York for the Giants and Lamar Hunt's son in Kansas City are owners I do respect a lot.

I have tremendous respect for Ralph Wilson as well. The only owner the Bills have ever had. Bought them in 1960.

I wish I had the same respect for Bud Adams as the only owner of the Oilers/Titans, but I don't.

I respect Al Davis far more than most would expect. He has been at the rudder of the Raiders since 1976 and was their head coach at one time. Truly a football man. It is a shame he is fading.
 

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cowboyrock;2145935 said:
Bingo! what Jerry is doing is foolish. he is paying players millions who have never even won a playoff game. some of these guys have been in the nfl for years.what happen to the days of winning something first then you get paid? 13 years of nothing is what he's paying for.NOT GOOD!
Except for the fact that Hamlin has won a playoff game in his career.
 

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Hostile;2145986 said:
I will have to go with Dan Rooney as the best owner in the game today just because I have tremendous respect for the families of the original NFL owners. Dan took over in 1988 after his father Art stepped aside. He has been part of the inner workings of that team since 1955.

The other long time families are the Browns in Cincy, Halas' duaghter in Chicago and Bidwell with the Cardinals. They simply have not had the same success as Rooney who was following a true giant in his father.

The Mara's in New York for the Giants and Lamar Hunt's son in Kansas City are owners I do respect a lot.

I have tremendous respect for Ralph Wilson as well. The only owner the Bills have ever had. Bought them in 1970.

I wish I had the same respect for Bud Adams as the only owner of the Oilers/Titans, but I don't.

I respect Al Davis far more than most would expect. He has been at the rudder of the Raiders since 1976 and was their head coach at one time. Truly a football man. It is a shame he is fading.
The Bills franchise started in 1960.;)
 

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cowboyrock;2145952 said:
And it should baffle your mind. it should tell you that Jerry the GM does not know what he's doing. it's his money. but i think paying all this money to players who have not won a playoff game in over a decade is foolish. Jerry the GM is not very good.

Yeah, Jerry shouldn't have paid Romo, Witten, Gurode, or Newman.

Good thinking.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2146025 said:
Yeah, Jerry shouldn't have paid Romo, Witten, Gurode, or Newman.

Good thinking.
Yeah, but Brad Johnson has won a playoff game.


we'd be set at QB.
 

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Cowboyscrazy, thanks. Im still waiting for that free gift, work on that for me.[jk]

Guys, one thing to remember here is the salary cap is not what it once was. Before it was 52 players for 65 million dollars. In todays game, its like 104 million for 52. You can overpay players in todays game and I dont think its anything to jump out of your boots for. Theres plenty of space if contracts are worked right.
 

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windward;2146016 said:
The Bills franchise started in 1960.;)
Thank you. I knew that. I'm on my laptop, hit the wrong key and didn't notice.
 

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xpistofer;2145774 said:
i disagree...

he went to an NFC title game, won a superbowl, and made two other playoff appearances during that time....

Agreed.

he certainly made some bad decisions, but....

(1) what if Irvin didnt hurt his neck on the Philly turf?

Agreed.


(2) what if Galloway didnt tear up his knee in the opener?

Galloway was a case of giving up way too much for somebody who didn't play QB or DE. He simply wasn't worth what Dallas gave up for him, even if he played pretty well. I can justify giving up that much for a WR if the WR is playing at a Randy Moss in '07 level, but most receivers never reach those heights.

(3) what if Novacek and Haley didnt tear up their backs?

True. Although you start to see that Jerry didn't really understand the risk that players who near 30 years old or older carry with them.

(4) what if Dallas didn't go dwon 21-0 to SF in the first 7 minutes...

True, although I don't think Dallas gets down by that much if Jimmy is the coach (and i'm not a big Jimmy fan).

(5) what if Q had the discipline to say no to drugs?

Q had problems coming out of college and Jerry ignored them anyway because he was too infatuated with the Q hype and the fact they shared the same birthday.

Dallas had a string of bad fortune, and they had some bad drafts (I will lay the latter at Jerry's feet), but despite these things, Jerry still was in the top 5 during that time period...

I sort of fail to see Jerry as a top 5 GM during that time. He did have the NFC Championship game in '94 and then the Super Bowl in '95, but it's safe to say that those were guys that the old administration brought in. After '95 Dallas just wasn't good enough to be considered a top 5 organization. I think this time is a little different because Dallas has gotten far better without Parcells and Jerry has made moves that Parcells refused to make (Hamlin, Folk and Davis).

Jerry really did a poor job of adjusting to the salary cap, but then again just about all of the big market teams did because the salary cap makes it so teams that build through the draft are likely to do better (i.e. small market teams) and teams that were used to building through FA (i.e. big market teams) would then struggle.

Part of the problem is Jerry got away from what worked for them in the past. Contrary to popular belief, Dallas didn't build their rosters in the past through free agency. But for some reason, perhaps the success of getting Haley and then Deion, he started to go a bit nuts with free agency and trades and Dallas was pretty much doomed.

I think he's a fabulous owner and right now I'd probably label him as a top 5 GM because he's learned from his mistakes, they manage the cap beautifully and they've had a hot streak of finding quality players in the draft and free agency. But from '95 through '02, there's no way he was a top 5 GM in my mind. Far from it.

I think people tend to place one's desire to win with being good. Personally, I'll take the smart GM over the fanboy any day.




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Jerry Jones is the Texas Godfather. Steroid dealers gonna name names? nope they "commit suicide" (wink, wink) possible eye witnesses hanging out with his player during a shooting? nope, thrown off a building. Don Jones rules Texas.
 

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Double Trouble;2145761 said:
Jerry the owner kept Jerry the GM, in spite of a decade of bad decisions.

We haven't won a SB in 13 years.

Overpaying a player like Hamlin hardly makes him the best owner.

There are alot of teams that have NEVER won a SB, so to complain we havent won our 6th yet and it has only been 13 yrs since #5 is not really being fair to Jerry.

From 1960 to 1989 we won only 2 titles, so lets keep some perspective here.

As far as Hamlin, he did not get overpaid. Go look at what the going market rate is for safeties and get back to me. Hamlin got 39/6 and Wilson got 36/6, not much of a difference. Now you can say that is too much money for any safety, however the market price is the market price. Hamlin was not overpaid, he was paid according to market.

What makes Jerry a great owner is that he is willing to spend the money on players. We could have freaking Bidwell or Bud Adams as our owner. Did you notice Albert Haynesworth, maybe their best player on the entire team, get snubbed with no contract before the deadline. The Titans have plenty of cap space, Bud Adams is just a cheap *** and didnt want to open the wallet.

That is why Jerry is the best.
 

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ilovejerry;2145847 said:
Dan Rooney ,,Im sick of these Rooney's cant stand them pukes, Old hat NFL blue bloods,, I love me noveaux riche hillbilly over anyone of these old farts, except for Al Davis who was a bloody thorn in there side ,,, Go Jerrrauh

The NFL handed the trophy to the Steelers in that fixed SB against the Seahawks.

No way the refs were going to let the Steelers lose that game, every time Seattle made a play there was a flag on the field.

When is Jerry going to start getting some love from the NFL/Referees????
 

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cowboyrock;2145935 said:
Bingo! what Jerry is doing is foolish. he is paying players millions who have never even won a playoff game. some of these guys have been in the nfl for years.what happen to the days of winning something first then you get paid? 13 years of nothing is what he's paying for.NOT GOOD!

You have to pay to keep the players that will win you playoff games. You cant say screw it, win something and then I will pay you.

You cant run a team that way, your players would say "go F yourself, I am out of here" and you end up feilding a team of rookies.

It is like Rosenhaus said at the TO presser, the Cowboys are a team "that gets it" and wants to win and part of wanting to win is getting players signed. Rosenhaus then said he wished he had more clients that played for Dallas.

You dont think that is going to help us win one of Rosenhaus's clients from another team becomes a free agent because that team would not pay up? Rosenhaus is going to think "hey, lets get you down to Dallas because they will pay you".

Jerry's emerging reputation for taking care of players is going to be a huge recruitment tool in the future.:)
 

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cowboyrock;2145952 said:
And it should baffle your mind. it should tell you that Jerry the GM does not know what he's doing. it's his money. but i think paying all this money to players who have not won a playoff game in over a decade is foolish. Jerry the GM is not very good.

your logic is quite ridiculous.

1. most of these players haven't been around for a decade.

2. Jerry Jones knows more about football than you. why? he's committed to it. you don't just randomly buy a sports franchise if you don't really know what you're doing. sure, Jerry makes mistakes...just like EVERYONE ELSE!

however, even when Jerry Jones does make a mistake, he still makes more money than you and is more famous than you. in the game of life, Jerry Jones wins.
 

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Jerry is one of the most passionate and dedicated owners and GM. That alone does not make him the best. One would have to look at the business decisions he has made relative to all other owners and general managers in the NFL.

I believe he is one of the top owners in NFL and all of sports. He has been a good GM, not great-- due to a few hiring decisions, salary issues, etc...

As cowboy fans we have been spoiled by our our long history of success, until the past 12 years...we expected to be in the playoffs every year, and have a shot at winning it all. The past 12 years has been painful and humbling.
 

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Beast_from_East;2146181 said:
What makes Jerry a great owner is that he is willing to spend the money on players. We could have freaking Bidwell or Bud Adams as our owner. Did you notice Albert Haynesworth, maybe their best player on the entire team, get snubbed with no contract before the deadline. The Titans have plenty of cap space, Bud Adams is just a cheap *** and didnt want to open the wallet.

That is why Jerry is the best.


Thank you. Also, Terrell suggs from the ravens one of there best defensive players and still in the prime of his career failed to reach an agreement. Players around the league have to be getting frustrated after seeing how jerry spends to keep his best players. All these owners have money, buy don't want to make that committment. Jerry jones should never be taken for granted.
 

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Beast_from_East;2146182 said:
The NFL handed the trophy to the Steelers in that fixed SB against the Seahawks.

No way the refs were going to let the Steelers lose that game, every time Seattle made a play there was a flag on the field.

When is Jerry going to start getting some love from the NFL/Referees????


He's not !!! Like his mentor ( Al Davis ). If I wasn't a Cowboy Fan I would be a Raider fan. ( why ? they beat all the NFC teams in the Superbowl who beat us. Also they have the same hatred of the Steelers as I do..I can go on , on , and on ). Jerry wants to win and is a maverick. At any cost, He came in and ruffled a lot of the old goats feathers. I hate them for it I like change I hate these old white pukes, who think they can make the rules and keep it a elite club. I love Jerry for bucking the system and I hope he continues to aggravate them .....Go Cowboys he has 3 SB under his ownership That is AWESOME and I'm looking forward to many more
 

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I dont know how this got into Jerry as a GM thread....

As a owner....you cant ask for better.

and as a GM....he had he rough times but how many GM's out there have 3 SB's?

Its not like he inherited a very good team when he became the owner and GM.

And Jerry Jones as GM has sure built a very talented team recently.


I guess for me...it doesnt matter if you finish 5-11 or 10-6 and lose in the playoffs....its all the same.

Jerry went thru some tough times....has learned....and has built another contender.....if we get fortunate enough to win another SB soon. ( and we do have the talent) then Jerry as GM will go down as one of the better GM's in this league. JMHO
 
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