Jerry please quit talking

Had a 12-4 team and 13-3 team under Garrett. If those teams couldn’t do it, how the hell is this team
 
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crashintonickdm said:
Is there any shot Garrett is extended if they miss the playoffs ?
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0% of that

From what I’ve read it’s simple.

Jerry wants a new coach last year. If he fires Garrett and the interim coach leads us to the playoff he is forced to roll with him.
 
This is not meant to be another thread about Jerry being a drunken, idiot, lying so and so who's hoodwinked us all and ruined a great institution we love, the Dallas Cowboys. Nor is it meant to be a defense of Jerry in any capacity. Just some honest observations as I sift through our annual collapse in my mind.

Honestly--the more I Think about this chain of events over the past decade or two, the more I grow in admiration for Jerry's business acumen and salesmanship. And yes, for purposes of this particular thread, I'm separating the business side of football from the football side of football. The man is dang good, whether anyone wants to hear it or not.

I mean--think about it--you go on this forum and daily there is thread after thread (rightly) calling him out for the mess that this organization has become, at least in a purely football sense. People call him everything they can possibly think of to call a man, they question his intelligence, they malign his GM abilities, his character. etc. And yet--

Every single year, every single one of these people is back, energized and optimistic, or at the very least, displaying some degree of enthusiasm and hope at the berth of a new season that *could* (but as history has shown us, likely won't) turn out like we hope it will.

Many people now posting about the horrific level of talent on our roster were the same people talking about how this team had few if any visible weaknesses 3 months ago. The talk has gone from "Pay Dak and Amari before it costs us even more" to "Burn down the entire roster and start from scratch with all news players and coaches".

Think about that. Ponder it. What does this tell you about Jerry's ability to sell and market himself and his team?

And then, more importantly, ponder this, next year, come the end of training camp, no matter what happens between now and then from a personnel or organizational standpoint, every one of us will be back here, ready to go and convinced that this is finally going to be "our year". You can say you won't, and right now you might even actually mean it, but you'll be back. We all will.

In light of that, ponder this as well:

What does that say about us? And I"m saying us. Me included.

Candidly, it's not flattering folks. Those that said loyal fans have been a part of the problem all along, may be more right than anyone wants to admit.
 
Problem is, Jerry knows now, the bs he is selling we aren’t buying.

That’s why he’s getting frustrated
 
SeanLee50 said:
Problem is, Jerry knows now, the bs he is selling we aren’t buying.

That’s why he’s getting frustrated
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Maybe right this second, coming off yesterday's game, it isn't selling.
But come next August, no matter what happens, all those people who right now are saying "I'm done" will be back, ready to go.

You know it, and so do I.
 
Says nothing about me, but yeah, certainly paints a very very negative and unflattering picture of you
 
visionary said:
Says nothing about me, but yeah, certainly paints a very very negative and unflattering picture of you
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I'm not sure if that was meant to be humorous or genuinely insulting.
So I'll bite--

if you were being serious, how does that paint a negative and unflattering picture of me?
 
Jerry is done with Jason, it just took him until now to realize it rather than earlier.
 
BoysForLife said:
This is not meant to be another thread about Jerry being a drunken, idiot, lying so and so who's hoodwinked us all and ruined a great institution we love, the Dallas Cowboys. Nor is it meant to be a defense of Jerry in any capacity. Just some honest observations as I sift through our annual collapse in my mind.

Honestly--the more I Think about this chain of events over the past decade or two, the more I grow in admiration for Jerry's business acumen and salesmanship. And yes, for purposes of this particular thread, I'm separating the business side of football from the football side of football. The man is dang good, whether anyone wants to hear it or not.

I mean--think about it--you go on this forum and daily there is thread after thread (rightly) calling him out for the mess that this organization has become, at least in a purely football sense. People call him everything they can possibly think of to call a man, they question his intelligence, they malign his GM abilities, his character. etc. And yet--

Every single year, every single one of these people is back, energized and optimistic, or at the very least, displaying some degree of enthusiasm and hope at the berth of a new season that *could* (but as history has shown us, likely won't) turn out like we hope it will.

Many people now posting about the horrific level of talent on our roster were the same people talking about how this team had few if any visible weaknesses 3 months ago. The talk has gone from "Pay Dak and Amari before it costs us even more" to "Burn down the entire roster and start from scratch with all news players and coaches".

Think about that. Ponder it. What does this tell you about Jerry's ability to sell and market himself and his team?

And then, more importantly, ponder this, next year, come the end of training camp, no matter what happens between now and then from a personnel or organizational standpoint, every one of us will be back here, ready to go and convinced that this is finally going to be "our year". You can say you won't, and right now you might even actually mean it, but you'll be back. We all will.

In light of that, ponder this as well:

What does that say about us? And I"m saying us. Me included.

Candidly, it's not flattering folks. Those that said loyal fans have been a part of the problem all along, may be more right than anyone wants to admit.
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My loyalty goes back long before JJ came into the picture. When you grow up watching the team from the beginning, it's dang hard to just quit watching, even if JJ's in charge. I don't let the losses get me down like I used to, but I care, whether I want to or not. Guess I will 'til they lay me down.
 
They do have talent. Lots of teams win with A LOT less. He never sold me. The coaching is horrific.
 
LandryFan said:
My loyalty goes back long before JJ came into the picture. When you grow up watching the team from the beginning, it's dang hard to just quit watching, even if JJ's in charge. I don't let the losses get me down like I used to, but I care, whether I want to or not. Guess I will 'til they lay me down.
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I can totally respect that. In a lot of ways, that's where I'm at as well.
Well said LandryFan
 
Aven8 said:
They do have talent. Lots of teams win with A LOT less. He never sold me. The coaching is horrific.
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Fair enough. I can listen to some of that.
Honest question:

Will you continue to come back, year after year, no matter how bad it gets? (and yes, it could and potentially will, get worse)....
 
Having faith in an awful coach and the same for this kicker, both should have been gone along time ago
 
BoysForLife said:
Fair enough. I can listen to some of that.
Honest question:

Will you continue to come back, year after year, no matter how bad it gets? (and yes, it could and potentially will, get worse)....
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I will watch but I never get invested with JG as HC. He has gone 12-4 before. But He makes too many simple mistakes. Fundamental football. Stuff pee wee kids learn. In fact that’s all they learn.

If he hires a new HC with some clout the whole world will be watching. Jerry will be in heaven.
 
Aven8 said:
I will watch but I never get invested with JG as HC. He has gone 12-4 before. But He makes too many simple mistakes. Fundamental football. Stuff pee wee kids learn. In fact that’s all they learn.

If he hires a new HC with some clout the whole world will be watching. Jerry will be in heaven.
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thanks for your candor.
I enjoy these types of discussions.

Beats talking about the game, right now.....:laugh:
 
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