Jerry: "but there I was, talking it up..."

[LittleBoyBlue]

It's real simple, gotta pay the rent (Mortgage.) Having said that, the stadium is to freaken big for boxing events but whatever..

Its too big for a dam football game... lol

I went and watched 95% of the game on the big video board.

Boxing is not, and will never be, what it used to be.

I think Jerry's aim is a little off on this one.

You are right. It will never be what it was. It makes a couple of 1000% more money than it used to. Its perfect for $$$ what Jerry wants to do $$$$

 

[cowboyed]

Jerry Jones: I want Cowboys Stadium to be the 'Madison Square Garden' of boxing


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Cowboys owner Jerry Jones recently talked about the Manny Pacquiao-Joshua Clottey fight at Cowboys Stadium on March 13 to ESPN Radio:
Some highlights:
"I spent two days in Mexico. They are such huge boxing fans, the biggest boxing fans in the world today are Mexican sports fans. That aligns beautifully with our fans, with what we want to do with the Dallas Cowboys. I was still heart-broke over not getting to play in the (NFC) championship game, but there I was, talking it up because I know what boxing might could mean to our stadium.
"We'll drop (the Stadium big screen) down probably another 25, 30 feet for the fight. I could envision some classic fights annually. ... I really think that we could be really be a special place to fight. ... Maybe we could be like Madison Square Garden when it comes to boxing."





Thoughts: I always believed Jerry was a salesman first, then a passionate NFL owner. Quotes like these just make me wonder about the guy.

You're entitled to believe what you want to believe but I think it is convenient and closed minded. Football is a seasonal event. This is 1.2 billion dollar infrastructure and inventory that has to be put to use. The debtors not only include Jerry, but the City of Arlington and its citizens.

There is nothing wrong with Jerry being labeled a salesmen although I don't believe it is the correct characterization. Jerry operates to me like an active owner and general manager that has to continue generating revenue to pay employees, for facilities, utilities, vendors, suppliers, insurance providers, attorneys, etc.. As far as salesmen go we all have that in us to some degree. By the way using the stadium facility for other events is not a new concept and a good number of organization use their stadiums to their utmost.

Jerry played football in college and he took a chance on a Cowboys team that was in a financial death spiral. That is not an any kind of business opportunist to me.

Ok so he like boxing and recognizes a big part of the fan base demographic is into boxing as well. Big deal it fills seats during the offseason. Romo loves golf, plays a lot of it. Are you going to question his dedication. Ware digs basketball. Is he just a player?

Most fans in here are diehard Cowboys fans, but have other strong interests. So what.

 

[cowboyed]

It sounded even more incriminating, if you will, when you heard him say it. The podcast is still on 103.3's site, I'm sure.

The whole stadium issue has made me think that Jerry wants to win, sure, but he wants to win primarily because he makes more money when we're winning.

Which I don't guess is wrong in itself, but it is a little different that the way he's often painted.

Uhh Choco he has majestic debt, just in the stadium itself. I bet deep down you know that. It cost money to operate the most valued sports franchise in the NFL. I bet you know that too. It is not just for making money for himself. He has made millions over and over before football.

 

[Seven]

Wait....what?

I must be missing something, because all I see is that he was heartbroken about the champ game but.....

Kind of like "I was heartbroken about my grandmother dying but I went to Brazil and got an STD a few weeks later."

I mean yeah, you're upset, but those Brazilian women aren't going to bang themselves.
OR ARE THEY?!?!?!?!?!

what the hell is this thread about anyway?

I've seen pictures......................

 

[lkelly]

Its from the great source of knowledge that is Wiki so there might be some 'misinformation' there but .........

Robert K. Kraft (born June 5, 1941 in Brookline, Massachusetts) is an American businessman who is the Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer of The Kraft Group, a diversified holding company with assets in paper and packaging, sports and entertainment, real estate development and a private equity portfolio. However, his best-known holdings are the National Football League's New England Patriots and Major League Soccer's New England Revolution, as well as the stadium where they play, Gillette Stadium.
He is also currently on the Board of Directors of Viacom and the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, and serves as a trustee of Boston College and as a trustee emeritus of his alma mater, Columbia University.

Malcolm Irving Glazer (born May 25, 1928) is an American businessman and sports-team owner. He is the president and chief executive officer of First Allied Corporation, a holding company for his varied business interests, most notably in the food processing industry. He holds controlling stakes in Manchester United Football Club, and owns the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, a National Football League team in Tampa, Florida, United States.

I'm not sure I get your point. Did I incorrectly identify the OWNERS of those two NFL franchises (or at least the majority owners)? If you are trying to imply that both of those men have competing interests for their time, then you have agreed with me. You will notice that neither of those men are listed as the General Managers/President (i.e. the person in charge of the football operations) of those franchises. They can spread themselves as thin as they like and that's why they hire someone to run the football side of things. Jerry hired himself.

When was the last time Bill Polian spent a good deal of pre-draft time trying to create a partnership with the Indy 500? Do you see a lot of reports of Parcells/Ireland coming up with strategies to court the Cuban-American population to boost merchandise sales? Was Mike Holmgren's first order of business in Cleveland to get on the phone and line up Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame acts to perform for fans at training camp?

Maybe it's just me, but the thought of our GM treating the franchise as a "seasonal event" (someone used that term) much like the summer outdoor concert series is pretty depressing. Let the owner keep a lot of irons in the fire but I'd prefer the GM focus on football year round. Heaven knows most of the other ones do...

 

[lkelly]

This is jerruh. He can move from one project to the next and give his all on each. I have no doubts that the Cowboys is the #1 priority on his mind above all else- BUT he has a lot of other hats on the rack and he needs to keep that stadium busy pumping out money. He wants to get the note paid off quickly and build up a big cash reserve so that he does not have to borrow again no matter what he wants to do. NOT to mention as a smart business man he has to be making contingency plans about next year. AND I have no doubt that he is already wanting to stow some money away for a renovation to the stadium in 5-10 years.

Can you list some of the other NFL GMs that have a lot of "hats on the rack?" Which other draft decision makers treat that task as a part time job?

I like Jerry and root like hell for the Cowboys, but I think it puts the team at a distinct disadvantage to have a part time GM. I don't imagine he'd hire a coach that spends a significant portion of his time running a charity or performing another time consuming non-football role. Curious that he'd hire a GM that isn't full time...

 

[ethiostar]

I'm not sure I get your point. Did I incorrectly identify the OWNERS of those two NFL franchises (or at least the majority owners)? If you are trying to imply that both of those men have competing interests for their time, then you have agreed with me. You will notice that neither of those men are listed as the General Managers/President (i.e. the person in charge of the football operations) of those franchises. They can spread themselves as thin as they like and that's why they hire someone to run the football side of things. Jerry hired himself.

When was the last time Bill Polian spent a good deal of pre-draft time trying to create a partnership with the Indy 500? Do you see a lot of reports of Parcells/Ireland coming up with strategies to court the Cuban-American population to boost merchandise sales? Was Mike Holmgren's first order of business in Cleveland to get on the phone and line up Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame acts to perform for fans at training camp?

Maybe it's just me, but the thought of our GM treating the franchise as a "seasonal event" (someone used that term) much like the summer outdoor concert series is pretty depressing. Let the owner keep a lot of irons in the fire but I'd prefer the GM focus on football year round. Heaven knows most of the other ones do...

First, let me apologize. I completely misread your post I commented on earlier.

As far as preparing for the draft, i don't know how the responsibilities are delegated among the staff. However, i have faith in Ciskowski and Stephen to get the job accomplished. Although its early to judge the 2009 draft, I was pretty happy with what Ciskowski did in 2008, the year in which he assumed the role of Scouting Director.

I don't know why Jerry doesn't let his 'minions' speak and truth be told i don't care. I don't see how that makes any difference to how competitive of a team they put on the field, which in the end is all I care about.

On other GM's, I don't know what they do year around. I'm sure they spend time away from football. It doesn't make any difference to me if they spend it watching reruns of MASH and Desperate Housewives. The bottom line is, do you have the infrastructure and the personnel setup to get the job done.

I'm not a Jerry defender by any stretch of the imagination. Do I think he should hire a GM? Maybe, but only as long as the results will much better. I also believe that increasingly Stephen is assuming more power and responsibilities within the organization. Can he produce a better result? No one knows.

You mentioned Parcels (we don't know what Holmgren or Bruce Allen will do in the future), since he took-over as a GM in 2008, the Dolphins have gone 11-5 and 7-9 for a combined record of 18-14. During those 2 years the Boys have gone 9-7 and 11-5 for a combined record of 20-12.

As for Polian, who I have a lot of respect for, as a GM with the Bills they went to 3 super bowls and lost them all. Did a great job with the Panthers. I believe he has been a GM of the Colts since 1998 and has won 1 super bowl and although the Colts have been great during the regular seasons, their playoff record is not that great.

Again, this is not to say that these other GMs aren't good or to say that Jerry is the greatest GM ever. My point is, it matters nothing to me what else Jerry does. You can spend 24/7/365 eating and breathing nothing but football but if the results aren't significantly better it doesn't matter at the end.

 

[lkelly]

I'm not trying to make the argument that Jerry is doing a bad job as (part time) GM - many others can run with that baton. I'm merely pointing out that he's opening the door wide for criticism and doubt. As for the comparisons with Polian and the Miami regime? Really? Miami was a 1 win team before they got there (a play away from being the team to steal the winless Lions thunder) and the Colts have been absurdly consistent under Polian. That's like saying the Cowboys from 1975-1985 were ho-hum.